The "push-up panties". You are a creative genius of innovative fashion, simone.

Or any layer. Throwing on any layer.

If you so much don't like to layer, how does she get laid? After all... oh, I get it, it's the laughter over pet names you give her that gets her rocks off in the monsoon season.

Why discount men who want to be at their child's birth? I don't get that.

Yes, having pictures is important. Some don't realize that until it's too late.

No one is forcing you to wear underwear.

yes I heard that Bill Gates puts on five hundred thousand shirts every morning.

Seriously speaking, poverty is a term of relative measure. I am poor, but I live better than any, absolutely any, of my forefathers in human history, and some of them were filthy rich jews. But they did not have indoor plumbing, or running hot-and-cold water on demand, or good meals for cheap and for little personal effort, comfortable clothes, women to talk to on the Internet. Disposable hankies, and good quality toilet paper. None of my forefathers ever sat on an airplane, much less crossed the Atlantic on one. Other than my father, none watched tv and many never sat in a car. Not one of them had their own private bathroom, and not one of them had the depth and breadth of the collection of nude women I have in their old age when women no longer looked at them and they, like I, had to rely on their own resources. Vacuum cleaners, iPods, semi-automatic repeating rifles and handguns were not even an idea to them. They had no good condoms, and had no penicillin.

But I am the one who is poor! I get to take drugs that help diseases at bay which would have killed me twenty times over in my lifetime so far. My forefathers dropped like flies in the fall, despite their wealth, during an epidemic.

So poverty is a relative term. I am poor in Canada, but would be one of the wealthiest men on the land, with a huge income (which would be the same, dollar-for-dollar) in Zimbabwe today and tomorrow.

Poverty is relative.

To eradicate poverty, because we feel morally obligated to do so, we can do it only one way, and that one way is the only true and surefire solution, which is to lower the poverty line to such depths that there is nobody who is still under it.

Bang, world poverty is eradicated, with the push of one mental experiment.

Just gonna state the obvious...

If all you retards would just agree with everything that I like....then no sentiments would be subjective.

But, there are an awful lot of people out there who are completely wrong about the stuff they value. (I didn't write the rules)

I am cool with it. It only fuels my superieority complex.

It actually makes me feel good to hang around idiot people who are all screwed off in the head.

:)

Not actually a joke...

that's because life is rather dull. Don't look for the point on it.

Sentimental stuff is smelly, and can give you a wickedly painful rectal itch.

Don't you already have enough fuel for your superiority complex?

Apparently not....let's throw another couple of gas cans on this bonfire....

10-4 good buddy, same reason I watch reality TV! Nothing says , "Simone, you are awesome!" more than looking at my surroundings.

IDK, what matters to some, doesn't matter to others. Each to their own I say.

IVe never 'discounted' it,, Ive only stated that I dont see a REASON for it practically, only the SENTIMENAL and EMOTIONAL fulfilling of the person who wants to be there

unlike the mother who, obviously HAS to be there and has a significant purpose in the birth,,,,


Its great when men want to be there, and its fine (with me) if they dont,,,,


this thread is not to put down sentimentalism or practicality,, just for people to share which trait they have more of,,,,

People who argue for the sake of arguing. Hats, when we already have umbrella's. Stairs because lifts are quicker. People who refuse to respect another's wishes and like to make a loud declaration about it. People who tell others "I don't like your new partner". Those are the few things that I can't get my head round.

I guess I would wonder more about the guy who didn't want to be there for the birth of his child. I'd think that was incredibly weird.

The way you've written things here, it does seem like you're putting down those who are more sentimental than you are. Good to know you're not, though.

nope, I actually think its charming, even though I dont possess the trait


I just wonder why its so important (not to the man, but to some WOMEN) that the man be at the birth if he really doesnt WANT to,,,,,

Im not talking , of course, about the one who would just rather watch the game or hang out with buddies,,,

but the one who just doesnt really have the stomach for those things and trusts you and the doctors to pull it off without him there,,,,

Perhaps you should try asking women who force the guys to be there? Or the guys who don't want to? I don't know any of them.

the one I asked wanted to be able to tell their child he had been there,,,,

I still dont get it though, I wouldnt personally care if my dad had or hadnt been there on that one day, because he was there for me his whole life until he died,,


but everyone is different, and thats a good thing,,,

We're all different...It's just hard to imagine being involved with a man who wouldn't want to be present when his children were born. Or a man who would rather watch a game on TV than be with his wife during childbirth...This all seems foreign to me. But I know we're all different.

I Agree, I would question a man who would merely 'rather' be doing something else. AS opposed to the one who just doesnt want to see it,, PERIOD, regardless what else there may be to do


For me, if the father said he couldnt quite stomach it, it wouldnt bother me for him not to come,,,,

I think I fall into pratical more so than sentimental. I do like to have photos of times and memories in my life, but don't need to see them daily.

Also I had sold my house when I divorced and did take some of the furniture and useful things that I kept. Ive had a few Ive dated asked if that was the case, and they didn't like it. They were too mindful of where it had been and who had been there opposed to that it is just furniture. I have no attachment to it other than I need some and won't spend the money on new stuff until I buy another place of my own...Someone even asked about my bed. Though I have new mattresses, the bdrm set was a guest set that I still use, or maybe carpet burns would change their mind...