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Topic: what liberalism means to me.
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Mon 07/30/07 01:51 PM
when the commercials first came out for the longest time everyone knew the duck and the commercials but never knew what the company did. lol

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Mon 07/30/07 01:59 PM
laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Mon 07/30/07 02:13 PM
wikedia definition aside, the reality of thier platform is the same as the 10 planks of the communist manifesto. you have to dig a little deeper than a dictonary definition to find the truth sometimes. wikedia disinformation encyclopedia? when looking for the truth we want to look at all the availanle information, not one 3 minute search.

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Mon 07/30/07 02:18 PM
I have been searching for a long time, where I come from we have a lot of liberals, they even have their own party.
Liberal comes from liberty, and a lot of that was taken away by your president. If you like that better, have it your way.

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Mon 07/30/07 02:20 PM
i don't think you can say that it is communism because socialism is just a part of communism. they are two different things that are often linked together because of marx and lenin. the united states isn't a complete socialist society and i don't think you can blame the liberals for it because we don't deviate from it when republicans(conservatives) are in power.

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Mon 07/30/07 02:59 PM
I don't think liberalism is communism. Damn, why am I here in this current events area again? I do not think they are even close actually. As soon as you step across Roosevelt's New Deal threshold you are moving into socialist area, but who wants to go back to the way things were before his era? If there were no social security for example, things would be horrible for older people, and even as their children may be generous, they would still be a huge burden on them. It is hard to maintain dignity when you are a burden on others. For elderly people with no children and no savings life would be horrible.

As soon as you make the national commitment to care for the elderly the issue is not whether or not to include elements of socialism in your society, but to decide how much to include.

I think there must be a little bit of liberalism in all but the most extreme of us in this country. Making choices as a country to not abandon the needy is a moral thing to do, and it contributes to social stability. Governments have known for thousands of years that if you ignore the needy you will have revolt. People with needs must have those needs met.

Some people in any social system may fall into the lazy category and they take advantage of the national welfare system. They may have a different sort of creativity and be artists rather than bricklayers or they may even have no ambition or drive, but if you leave them out all of society goes to hell. We are going to have to trust that enough people have ambition and capabilities that things will work out.

Just don't limit the money supply so that the productive ones are unable to sell their products. Then everyone would starve.

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Mon 07/30/07 03:35 PM
uh huh. dont worry be happy while our rights are given away on the installment plan.

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Mon 07/30/07 03:38 PM
what does liberalism have to do with losing our rights?

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Mon 07/30/07 08:22 PM
American Heritage Dictionary:

lib·er·al·ism (lĭbər-ə-lĭz′əm, lĭbrə-)
n.


1. The state or quality of being liberal.
2.

a. A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.
b. often Liberalism The tenets or policies of a Liberal party.

3. An economic theory in favor of laissez-faire, the free market, and the gold standard.
4. Liberalism

a. A 19th-century Protestant movement that favored free intellectual inquiry, stressed the ethical and humanitarian content of Christianity, and de-emphasized dogmatic theology.
b. A 19th-century Roman Catholic movement that favored political democracy and ecclesiastical reform but was theologically orthodox.

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Mon 07/30/07 08:24 PM
com·mu·nism (kŏmyə-nĭz′əm)
n.


1. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
2. Communism

a. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
b. The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat.

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Mon 07/30/07 08:24 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnoway noway noway

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Mon 07/30/07 08:26 PM
con·ser·va·tism (kən-sûrvə-tĭz′əm)
n.


1. The inclination, especially in politics, to maintain the existing or traditional order.
2. A political philosophy or attitude emphasizing respect for traditional institutions, distrust of government activism, and opposition to sudden change in the established order.
3. Conservatism The principles and policies of the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom or of the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada.
4. Caution or moderation, as in behavior or outlook.




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Mon 07/30/07 08:32 PM
Bushieism:

1. The act of being blind to the truth, the whole truth, and anything that resembles the truth, so help them George Dubya!!!


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Mon 07/30/07 10:15 PM
dubya the fun, dubya the pleasure......laugh

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Tue 07/31/07 12:11 AM
DUCK ... prounounced QUACK

Duck is the common name for a number of species in the Anatidae family of birds. The ducks are divided between several subfamilies listed in full in the Anatidae article. Ducks are mostly aquatic birds, mostly smaller than their relatives the swans and geese, and may be found in both fresh water and sea water.

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Tue 07/31/07 12:17 AM
To duck is an action you take when something is flying at youlaugh laugh

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Tue 07/31/07 12:24 AM
Also a duck is what you get when you score zero in cricket.

Being goosed on the other hand, is an entirely different thing!

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Tue 07/31/07 12:26 AM
and pate' de foie gras d'cannard is also very delicious duck pate'

to be served with vinho verde and cornichons with baguette and fresh berries...


sigh!:tongue: drinker

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Tue 07/31/07 12:29 AM
oh yes and most cats like to eat duck.......laugh bigsmile

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Tue 07/31/07 12:30 AM
but they don't swallow the bones...noway noway

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