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Says nothing about kids who have been here all their lives. 
Some could be jumping the border tomorrow and they will get a free pass. Screw the health and well being of the American Citizen just as long as Barry can slide back in. What does it have to do with the "health and well being" of the American citizen? And, what I heard on the news was that it was about children who were brought here illegally by their parents, most of them have lived here all their lives. Jobs for one, the Illegals are bring in polio and TB, etc., etc. etc. Where are the stats for "most"? I find it highly suspect. What are the "stats" for them bringing in polio and TB etc. etc. And if they did not have to fear being deported maybe they could get medical help. And are there really jobs here that they are taking away from Americans? What jobs? Sweat shops and field workers? I think if Americans wanted those jobs they could probably get hired. those jobs are just as easily filled by 'legal' immigrants and they are mostly word of mouth jobs that the average american wouldnt have a clue about obtaining (if they even lived in an area where such farms existed) That farms statement sounds a bit bigoted.   Just teasing.
As if all an Illegal is capable of is farm hand work. 
Lincoln freed the slaves and Barry went and made it legal to work slaves. Like I said before. I'd like to see all the Unemployment extensions cut off. What a scramble for jobs that would create. yes the choas and slave labor would be a joy to watch,,,,
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If sheite hits the fan here, I have many Mexican friends who work large ranches.
We already talked about it and we will take all our families onto those ranches. Lots of game, water and dangerous desert. Perfect place to set up a community. |
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Texas was once Mexico. We stole it from them. Now they want it back. Surprise surprise. The earth belongs to the people who live on it. They fight and kill each other over territory like animals. They draw lines and create boarders. Its so pathetic. Here are the facts. Mexicans are healthier than pampered Americans who have grown up on three generations of junk food and poison. Mexicans will pop out ten children to our one or two. They will soon outnumber us. We are fighting a losing battle trying to keep them out of a country they used to live in. The fourth Reich in South America has plenty of guns and drugs. They sell us the drugs and we sell them the guns. It won't take much for them to take their guns and come here and shoot up this country who are all high on their drugs. So the thing Americans need to do is get off drugs. we stole Texas? really.. haha |
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Texas was once Mexico. We stole it from them. Now they want it back. Surprise surprise. The earth belongs to the people who live on it. They fight and kill each other over territory like animals. They draw lines and create boarders. Its so pathetic. Here are the facts. Mexicans are healthier than pampered Americans who have grown up on three generations of junk food and poison. Mexicans will pop out ten children to our one or two. They will soon outnumber us. We are fighting a losing battle trying to keep them out of a country they used to live in. The fourth Reich in South America has plenty of guns and drugs. They sell us the drugs and we sell them the guns. It won't take much for them to take their guns and come here and shoot up this country who are all high on their drugs. So the thing Americans need to do is get off drugs. we stole Texas? really.. haha That's in the New Age Mexican History Books. 
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Texas was once Mexico. We stole it from them. Now they want it back. Surprise surprise. The earth belongs to the people who live on it. They fight and kill each other over territory like animals. They draw lines and create boarders. Its so pathetic. Here are the facts. Mexicans are healthier than pampered Americans who have grown up on three generations of junk food and poison. Mexicans will pop out ten children to our one or two. They will soon outnumber us. We are fighting a losing battle trying to keep them out of a country they used to live in. The fourth Reich in South America has plenty of guns and drugs. They sell us the drugs and we sell them the guns. It won't take much for them to take their guns and come here and shoot up this country who are all high on their drugs. So the thing Americans need to do is get off drugs. we stole Texas? really.. haha That's in the New Age Mexican History Books.
haha.. |
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Edited by
Dodo_David
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Sat 06/16/12 04:46 PM
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The hypothetical situation in my OP is about an 18-year-old immigrant who has lived in the USA for 17 years. its a tough one dodo the initial details involve a young teen/child who has attended school (free school) for 17 years , through no effort or fault of their own the deeper details involve at least one ADULT who has eluded the law for 17 years while their child received AMERICAN Benefits for 17 years which were not legally obtained, the adult has PUT The child, however well intentioned, into a situation with a benefit that was not LEGALLY OBTAINED I feel its a mistake to give this a pass the adult should know better, they should be deported the child should remain with their PARENT, but be permitted to apply LEGALLY for entry using their past (personal) clean american history as the documentation that would normally be used in a background check and requiring the same sponsorship , school, or work status that anyone else entering must have,,,, american students travel abroad a year at a time all the time before returning to the us an immigrant should be able to return, with their parent, to their parents homeland while the LEGAL immigration process completes itself,,, msharmony, thank you for addressing the topic of my OP. There is more to immigration reform than just sending illegal immigrants and their children back to their place of origin. Congress regulates how many immigrants can legally enter the USA each year. Congress regulates the criteria for obtaining a Green Card. 1) Should Congress permit more legal immigration per year? 2) Should an immigrant who grew up in the USA (due to the illegal immigration of the person's parent) be qualified for a Green Card if that immigrant returned to her/his place of birth? |
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it doesn't really matter how we got Texas, we have it NOW and thats all that matters... if the Mexicans want it back, let them come and take it from us...
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The hypothetical situation in my OP is about an 18-year-old immigrant who has lived in the USA for 17 years. its a tough one dodo the initial details involve a young teen/child who has attended school (free school) for 17 years , through no effort or fault of their own the deeper details involve at least one ADULT who has eluded the law for 17 years while their child received AMERICAN Benefits for 17 years which were not legally obtained, the adult has PUT The child, however well intentioned, into a situation with a benefit that was not LEGALLY OBTAINED I feel its a mistake to give this a pass the adult should know better, they should be deported the child should remain with their PARENT, but be permitted to apply LEGALLY for entry using their past (personal) clean american history as the documentation that would normally be used in a background check and requiring the same sponsorship , school, or work status that anyone else entering must have,,,, american students travel abroad a year at a time all the time before returning to the us an immigrant should be able to return, with their parent, to their parents homeland while the LEGAL immigration process completes itself,,, msharmony, thank you for addressing the topic of my OP. There is more to immigration reform than just sending illegal immigrants and their children back to their place of origin. Congress regulates how many immigrants can legally enter the USA each year. Congress regulates the criteria for obtaining a Green Card. 1) Should Congress permit more legal immigration per year? 2) Should an immigrant who grew up in the USA (due to the illegal immigration of the person's parent) be qualified for a Green Card if that immigrant returned to her/his place of birth? 3) you are welcome 1) I think we have to get our own citizens better able to take care of their own families before we increase the numbers of those from other countries trying to do the same 2) I think there should be no 'fault' on a child who entered illegally, I just think they should have to start over and do it legally. I think adults who entered should have some type of penalty on their record that should weigh heavily on future attempts to enter,,, 3)....I dont think you finished three ....lol |
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Edited by
willing2
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Sat 06/16/12 04:50 PM
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The hypothetical situation in my OP is about an 18-year-old immigrant who has lived in the USA for 17 years. its a tough one dodo the initial details involve a young teen/child who has attended school (free school) for 17 years , through no effort or fault of their own the deeper details involve at least one ADULT who has eluded the law for 17 years while their child received AMERICAN Benefits for 17 years which were not legally obtained, the adult has PUT The child, however well intentioned, into a situation with a benefit that was not LEGALLY OBTAINED I feel its a mistake to give this a pass the adult should know better, they should be deported the child should remain with their PARENT, but be permitted to apply LEGALLY for entry using their past (personal) clean american history as the documentation that would normally be used in a background check and requiring the same sponsorship , school, or work status that anyone else entering must have,,,, american students travel abroad a year at a time all the time before returning to the us an immigrant should be able to return, with their parent, to their parents homeland while the LEGAL immigration process completes itself,,, msharmony, thank you for addressing the topic of my OP. There is more to immigration reform than just sending illegal immigrants and their children back to their place of origin. Congress regulates how many immigrants can legally enter the USA each year. Congress regulates the criteria for obtaining a Green Card. 1) Should Congress permit more legal immigration per year? 2) Should an immigrant who grew up in the USA (due to the illegal immigration of the person's parent) be qualified for a Green Card if that immigrant returned to her/his place of birth? 3) Congress should regulate Immigration to balance the real need after Americans have been put to work. A balance. Right now, the balance puts more Americans out of work. The Illegal child who is deported with their Illegal parents, if they haven't committed any felony, should have no problem standing in line to get a green card. Just because they were brought here by parents should not give them any special priority over an Immigrant applicant that's been waiting. |
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The hypothetical situation in my OP is about an 18-year-old immigrant who has lived in the USA for 17 years. its a tough one dodo the initial details involve a young teen/child who has attended school (free school) for 17 years , through no effort or fault of their own the deeper details involve at least one ADULT who has eluded the law for 17 years while their child received AMERICAN Benefits for 17 years which were not legally obtained, the adult has PUT The child, however well intentioned, into a situation with a benefit that was not LEGALLY OBTAINED I feel its a mistake to give this a pass the adult should know better, they should be deported the child should remain with their PARENT, but be permitted to apply LEGALLY for entry using their past (personal) clean american history as the documentation that would normally be used in a background check and requiring the same sponsorship , school, or work status that anyone else entering must have,,,, american students travel abroad a year at a time all the time before returning to the us an immigrant should be able to return, with their parent, to their parents homeland while the LEGAL immigration process completes itself,,, msharmony, thank you for addressing the topic of my OP. There is more to immigration reform than just sending illegal immigrants and their children back to their place of origin. Congress regulates how many immigrants can legally enter the USA each year. Congress regulates the criteria for obtaining a Green Card. 1) Should Congress permit more legal immigration per year? 2) Should an immigrant who grew up in the USA (due to the illegal immigration of the person's parent) be qualified for a Green Card if that immigrant returned to her/his place of birth? 3) Congress should regulate Immigration to balance the real need after Americans have been put to work. A balance. Right now, the balance puts more Americans out of work. The Illegal child who is deported with their Illegal parents, if they haven't committed any felony, should have no problem standing in line to get a green card. Just because they were brought here by parents should not give them any special priority over an Immigrant applicant that's been waiting. as Ladylid says to me I think pigs are flying somewhere,,,lol 
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as Ladylid says to me I think pigs are flying somewhere,,,lol
I promise. I didn't read and copy yours. 
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as Ladylid says to me I think pigs are flying somewhere,,,lol
I promise. I didn't read and copy yours.
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As I understand it,the process of obtaining a Green Card is not one of "First come-first serve". People outside the USA have to meet certain criteria before they can be granted visas.
What should that criteria be? |
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As I understand it,the process of obtaining a Green Card is not one of "First come-first serve". People outside the USA have to meet certain criteria before they can be granted visas. What should that criteria be? I Can tell you from experience, its almost like getting a job. there is a background check, so that they know you are not a 'criminal',,it can go back a couple decades (my daughters father had his record checked back nearly twenty five years) there is a financial REQUIREMENT to show that SOMEONE Here has agreed to be financially responsible for you (either an employer has agreed to employ you, or someone employed agreed to sponsor you) and that someone has to be of a financial status of a minimum of at leasat 50 percent ABOVE any poverty levels,,,, there are special visas for those who will be attending school in areas where employees are in high demand as well,,,,or who will be working in a high demand career I think the current criteria are reasonable actually, unless and until we have a better economic/educational/healthcare landscape for our own citizens,,,,, |
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As I understand it,the process of obtaining a Green Card is not one of "First come-first serve". People outside the USA have to meet certain criteria before they can be granted visas. What should that criteria be? The criteria is already on the books and it is fair. It is supposed to protect us from criminals, third world diseases. If a person is applying like in Mexico, they fill out the app in Jaurez them, get an appointment for the interview in Monterrey. After that, it's just a waiting game. If, they pass their background and health exam, they could be awarded various types of VISAs. The easiest is a temp. That can be done at any US Embassy. The next is a yearly renewable visitors pass. That allows them to enter and visit within a limited number of miles inside the US. that one is where the abuse begins. They aren't supposed to work. Many do. Few get caught. But, they are limited to just a few miles on this side of the border. Unless, they can get someone to smuggle them farther in. The next level is, the green card or work permit. That one also has levels. Temporary, migrant and (permanent, legal resident.) I know, the permanent legal has to be renewed every 10 years. With the permanent, they are able to study for and test to become a citizen. A couple years ago, my very good Colombian friend won her citizenship. |
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As I understand it,the process of obtaining a Green Card is not one of "First come-first serve". People outside the USA have to meet certain criteria before they can be granted visas. What should that criteria be? The criteria is already on the books and it is fair. It is supposed to protect us from criminals, third world diseases. If a person is applying like in Mexico, they fill out the app in Jaurez them, get an appointment for the interview in Monterrey. After that, it's just a waiting game. If, they pass their background and health exam, they could be awarded various types of VISAs. The easiest is a temp. That can be done at any US Embassy. The next is a yearly renewable visitors pass. That allows them to enter and visit within a limited number of miles inside the US. that one is where the abuse begins. They aren't supposed to work. Many do. Few get caught. But, they are limited to just a few miles on this side of the border. Unless, they can get someone to smuggle them farther in. The next level is, the green card or work permit. That one also has levels. Temporary, migrant and (permanent, legal resident.) I know, the permanent legal has to be renewed every 10 years. With the permanent, they are able to study for and test to become a citizen. A couple years ago, my very good Colombian friend won her citizenship. oh yeah, I forgot about the medical exam to make sure nothing is 'coming' into the states,,,, |
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There is nothing broken about the system.
Corporations want and need, for their stockholders, slave labor. Barry just granted their Christmas wish. |
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There is nothing broken about the system. Corporations want and need, for their stockholders, slave labor. Barry just granted their Christmas wish.
Yep, that's part of the plan for the New World Order. |
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There was a time when this country was brown, red... whatever ya wanna call it. Seems we have some serious issues wanting to keep that from happening again.... My grandparents weren't born here, most of ours weren't. 
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There is nothing broken about the system. Corporations want and need, for their stockholders, slave labor. Barry just granted their Christmas wish. It is not just business executives who want to keep illegal immigrants in the USA. In some places, state and local politicians want to keep illegal immigrants in the USA because of the work that they do. |
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