Topic: That Pesky Immigration Issue
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Sat 06/16/12 02:03 PM
Texas was once Mexico. We stole it from them.

Now they want it back. Surprise surprise.

The earth belongs to the people who live on it. They fight and kill each other over territory like animals. They draw lines and create boarders.

Its so pathetic.

Here are the facts.

Mexicans are healthier than pampered Americans who have grown up on three generations of junk food and poison. Mexicans will pop out ten children to our one or two.

They will soon outnumber us.

We are fighting a losing battle trying to keep them out of a country they used to live in.

The fourth Reich in South America has plenty of guns and drugs. They sell us the drugs and we sell them the guns.

It won't take much for them to take their guns and come here and shoot up this country who are all high on their drugs.


So the thing Americans need to do is get off drugs.





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Sat 06/16/12 02:24 PM

Texas was once Mexico. We stole it from them.

Now they want it back. Surprise surprise.

The earth belongs to the people who live on it. They fight and kill each other over territory like animals. They draw lines and create boarders.

Its so pathetic.

Here are the facts.

Mexicans are healthier than pampered Americans who have grown up on three generations of junk food and poison. Mexicans will pop out ten children to our one or two.

They will soon outnumber us.

We are fighting a losing battle trying to keep them out of a country they used to live in.

The fourth Reich in South America has plenty of guns and drugs. They sell us the drugs and we sell them the guns.

It won't take much for them to take their guns and come here and shoot up this country who are all high on their drugs.


So the thing Americans need to do is get off drugs.







Im not sure about the popping out children myth/stereotype

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html


they didnt live in the WHOLE country because they happened to occupy three or four states,,,,

and their obesity rate is RIGHT Behind ours,,,

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity


the goal shouldnt be to keep them out,,we certainly have FAR more coming into the country LEGALLY every year than we do illegally

especially ASIANS , believe it or not , who are the largest rate of legal immigration (and they certainly could have an ax to grind with us thats about revenge and not just terriroty)

but the point is , the majority do it LEGALLY, and thats what we should encourage by enforcing the legal requirements equally for all,,,

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Sat 06/16/12 02:44 PM
Msharmony, your first link didn't really go to anything.

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Sat 06/16/12 02:47 PM
weird, lets try again

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html

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Sat 06/16/12 02:47 PM


they didnt live in the WHOLE country because they happened to occupy three or four states,,,,


Yeh, three or four very large states.... TEXAS AND CALIFORNIA are not small.



and their obesity rate is RIGHT Behind ours,,,




Not from junk food,---> but from cheap food, beans, rice, flour, corn etc. All very fattening.

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Sat 06/16/12 02:48 PM
it may be some coypwright issue

its on the cia.gov site, just do a search for fertility rates by country


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Sat 06/16/12 02:51 PM


Well I cut and pasted it and it worked.

Clicking on it does not work.

Odd.

Anyway those figures are more geared to a country rather than a particular race.


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Sat 06/16/12 02:53 PM
I didn't see America listed in that list of countries.

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Sat 06/16/12 03:00 PM


Darn! I leave for the day and come back to what?

Somebody label me or call me a name please so I can catch up!

So who are we deporting now, or why shouldn't we, and who's responsible?

Oh wait! Bush did it! Obama helped, Romney doesn't have a clue what's going on, Paul caught them, but nobody will listen to him!

Am I close? ohwell

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Sat 06/16/12 03:19 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 06/16/12 03:20 PM



Darn! I leave for the day and come back to what?

Somebody label me or call me a name please so I can catch up!

So who are we deporting now, or why shouldn't we, and who's responsible?

Oh wait! Bush did it! Obama helped, Romney doesn't have a clue what's going on, Paul caught them, but nobody will listen to him!

Am I close? ohwell


No, Obama just decided not to deport children to Mexico who have been living here all their lives.

I think it was a kind thing to do.

Everyone else is having a cow about it. sad2





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Sat 06/16/12 03:24 PM
Says nothing about kids who have been here all their lives.slaphead

Some could be jumping the border tomorrow and they will get a free pass.

Screw the health and well being of the American Citizen just as long as Barry can slide back in.

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Sat 06/16/12 03:45 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 06/16/12 03:46 PM

Says nothing about kids who have been here all their lives.slaphead

Some could be jumping the border tomorrow and they will get a free pass.

Screw the health and well being of the American Citizen just as long as Barry can slide back in.


What does it have to do with the "health and well being" of the American citizen?

And, what I heard on the news was that it was about children who were brought here illegally by their parents, most of them have lived here all their lives.




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Sat 06/16/12 04:04 PM

I didn't see America listed in that list of countries.


#121

a cool trick I use (especially when researching bills and what is or is not in them)

is this:

go to the page you are going to read and simulataneiously click Ctrl and F key

at the top of the screen somewhere the search box will come in ,, just put in the word, sentence, phrase you seek and it will take you to each instance

one by one,,,

,,its quicker than counting on the eye to browse over lines and lines of text ...flowerforyou

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Sat 06/16/12 04:05 PM


Says nothing about kids who have been here all their lives.slaphead

Some could be jumping the border tomorrow and they will get a free pass.

Screw the health and well being of the American Citizen just as long as Barry can slide back in.


What does it have to do with the "health and well being" of the American citizen?

And, what I heard on the news was that it was about children who were brought here illegally by their parents, most of them have lived here all their lives.





Jobs for one, the Illegals are bring in polio and TB, etc., etc. etc.
Where are the stats for "most"?
I find it highly suspect.

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Sat 06/16/12 04:09 PM



Says nothing about kids who have been here all their lives.slaphead

Some could be jumping the border tomorrow and they will get a free pass.

Screw the health and well being of the American Citizen just as long as Barry can slide back in.


What does it have to do with the "health and well being" of the American citizen?

And, what I heard on the news was that it was about children who were brought here illegally by their parents, most of them have lived here all their lives.





Jobs for one, the Illegals are bring in polio and TB, etc., etc. etc.
Where are the stats for "most"?
I find it highly suspect.


What are the "stats" for them bringing in polio and TB etc. etc. And if they did not have to fear being deported maybe they could get medical help.

And are there really jobs here that they are taking away from Americans? What jobs? Sweat shops and field workers? I think if Americans wanted those jobs they could probably get hired.


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Sat 06/16/12 04:14 PM

Says nothing about kids who have been here all their lives.slaphead

Some could be jumping the border tomorrow and they will get a free pass.

Screw the health and well being of the American Citizen just as long as Barry can slide back in.


President Obama did specify certain criteria that young illegal immigrants must meet in order to qualify for his immigration policy. They can't "jump the border tomorrow" and qualify.

The hypothetical situation in my OP is about an 18-year-old immigrant who has lived in the USA for 17 years.

msharmony's photo
Sat 06/16/12 04:15 PM




Says nothing about kids who have been here all their lives.slaphead

Some could be jumping the border tomorrow and they will get a free pass.

Screw the health and well being of the American Citizen just as long as Barry can slide back in.


What does it have to do with the "health and well being" of the American citizen?

And, what I heard on the news was that it was about children who were brought here illegally by their parents, most of them have lived here all their lives.





Jobs for one, the Illegals are bring in polio and TB, etc., etc. etc.
Where are the stats for "most"?
I find it highly suspect.


What are the "stats" for them bringing in polio and TB etc. etc. And if they did not have to fear being deported maybe they could get medical help.

And are there really jobs here that they are taking away from Americans? What jobs? Sweat shops and field workers? I think if Americans wanted those jobs they could probably get hired.





those jobs are just as easily filled by 'legal' immigrants and they are mostly word of mouth jobs that the average american wouldnt have a clue about obtaining (if they even lived in an area where such farms existed)

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Sat 06/16/12 04:23 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 06/16/12 04:24 PM


Says nothing about kids who have been here all their lives.slaphead

Some could be jumping the border tomorrow and they will get a free pass.

Screw the health and well being of the American Citizen just as long as Barry can slide back in.


President Obama did specify certain criteria that young illegal immigrants must meet in order to qualify for his immigration policy. They can't "jump the border tomorrow" and qualify.

The hypothetical situation in my OP is about an 18-year-old immigrant who has lived in the USA for 17 years.



its a tough one dodo

the initial details involve a young teen/child who has attended school (free school) for 17 years , through no effort or fault of their own

the deeper details involve at least one ADULT who has eluded the law for 17 years while their child received AMERICAN Benefits for 17 years which were not legally obtained,

the adult has PUT The child, however well intentioned, into a situation with a benefit that was not LEGALLY OBTAINED

I feel its a mistake to give this a pass

the adult should know better, they should be deported
the child should remain with their PARENT, but be permitted to apply LEGALLY for entry using their past (personal) clean american history as the documentation that would normally be used in a background
check and requiring the same sponsorship , school, or work status that anyone else entering must have,,,,


american students travel abroad a year at a time all the time before returning to the us

an immigrant should be able to return, with their parent, to their parents homeland while the LEGAL immigration process completes itself,,,

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Sat 06/16/12 04:25 PM





Says nothing about kids who have been here all their lives.slaphead

Some could be jumping the border tomorrow and they will get a free pass.

Screw the health and well being of the American Citizen just as long as Barry can slide back in.


What does it have to do with the "health and well being" of the American citizen?

And, what I heard on the news was that it was about children who were brought here illegally by their parents, most of them have lived here all their lives.





Jobs for one, the Illegals are bring in polio and TB, etc., etc. etc.
Where are the stats for "most"?
I find it highly suspect.


What are the "stats" for them bringing in polio and TB etc. etc. And if they did not have to fear being deported maybe they could get medical help.

And are there really jobs here that they are taking away from Americans? What jobs? Sweat shops and field workers? I think if Americans wanted those jobs they could probably get hired.





those jobs are just as easily filled by 'legal' immigrants and they are mostly word of mouth jobs that the average american wouldnt have a clue about obtaining (if they even lived in an area where such farms existed)

That farms statement sounds a bit bigoted.:wink: laugh Just teasing.
As if all an Illegal is capable of is farm hand work.rofl rofl

Lincoln freed the slaves and Barry went and made it legal to work slaves.

Like I said before.

I'd like to see all the Unemployment extensions cut off. What a scramble for jobs that would create.

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Sat 06/16/12 04:26 PM
Texas was once Mexico. We stole it from them.


rofl

Who are We?

Texas was an independent republic before it joined the USA.

Texas gained independence from Mexico the same way that Mexico gained independence from Spain, which the same way that Spain gained control of that part of the world now called Mexico.