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Topic: Missouri law requires drug tests for welfare recipients
alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Wed 06/20/12 10:11 AM
a family of four cannot eat off of one young man does,,, fatness and protein have nothing to do with the cost of FEEDING A FAMILY,,,, what one needs to eat healthy is still not going to be covered for 100 dollars per month I can afford to spend as much as I want to on food. Growing my own food all year long, I will likely spend less than $200.00/month on food for my family before too much longer. This is because my garage, in just over 32 square feet will have 144 square feet of gardening area in 3 vertical gardens. 1 array will be exclusively tobacco, and the remaining 2 will be for food, with minimal effort. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.420173988001847.99962.100000277474789&type=3 Tobacco?

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Wed 06/20/12 10:23 AM
And lots if doctors say to follow the food pyramid that lists gains as the largest food group but people used to never eat grains. They are just easy to mass produce for food. Not that they are healthiest. Many doctors also won't acknowledge natural remedies or other things. More than likely you ate too little and suffered energy loss so did less. Also when you list weight u didn't weight train and so lost muscle before fat and lowered your metabolism that way. I have personally lost considerable amount of weight in a shirt time from nit eating. Once I was sick and lost 20% of my body weight in a matter of about 3-4 weeks. Another time I lost 20 pounds in 2 months when i moved to japan. Considering i was only 150 to begin with its a lot

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 06/20/12 04:09 PM
And lots if doctors say to follow the food pyramid that lists gains as the largest food group but people used to never eat grains. They are just easy to mass produce for food. Not that they are healthiest. Many doctors also won't acknowledge natural remedies or other things. More than likely you ate too little and suffered energy loss so did less. Also when you list weight u didn't weight train and so lost muscle before fat and lowered your metabolism that way. I have personally lost considerable amount of weight in a shirt time from nit eating. Once I was sick and lost 20% of my body weight in a matter of about 3-4 weeks. Another time I lost 20 pounds in 2 months when i moved to japan. Considering i was only 150 to begin with its a lot I am not as concerned with kids weights as I am with their HEALTH, and too little food is going to do them no more good than too much, in fact, too little good food can have just as ill an effect on HEALTH as too much bad food so tying in weight problems with what people are able to spend on food is fallacious logic,,,and irrelevant to what should be i mportatn when raising children their HEALTH, ability to function and concentrate at school, ability to have energy to sustain through the day,,,all require proper nutrition which isnt going to happen on 25 dollars a week/per person in todays market,,,,

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Wed 06/20/12 04:16 PM
And lots if doctors say to follow the food pyramid that lists gains as the largest food group but people used to never eat grains. They are just easy to mass produce for food. Not that they are healthiest. Many doctors also won't acknowledge natural remedies or other things. More than likely you ate too little and suffered energy loss so did less. Also when you list weight u didn't weight train and so lost muscle before fat and lowered your metabolism that way. I have personally lost considerable amount of weight in a shirt time from nit eating. Once I was sick and lost 20% of my body weight in a matter of about 3-4 weeks. Another time I lost 20 pounds in 2 months when i moved to japan. Considering i was only 150 to begin with its a lot I am not as concerned with kids weights as I am with their HEALTH, and too little food is going to do them no more good than too much, in fact, too little good food can have just as ill an effect on HEALTH as too much bad food so tying in weight problems with what people are able to spend on food is fallacious logic,,,and irrelevant to what should be i mportatn when raising children their HEALTH, ability to function and concentrate at school, ability to have energy to sustain through the day,,,all require proper nutrition which isnt going to happen on 25 dollars a week/per person in todays market,,,, Call bs on that. Its cheaper to eat healthy than to buy junk. Also kids need less calories then adults. Also food stamps should supplement not pay everything.

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Wed 06/20/12 07:40 PM
And lots if doctors say to follow the food pyramid that lists gains as the largest food group but people used to never eat grains. They are just easy to mass produce for food. Not that they are healthiest. Many doctors also won't acknowledge natural remedies or other things. More than likely you ate too little and suffered energy loss so did less. Also when you list weight u didn't weight train and so lost muscle before fat and lowered your metabolism that way. I have personally lost considerable amount of weight in a shirt time from nit eating. Once I was sick and lost 20% of my body weight in a matter of about 3-4 weeks. Another time I lost 20 pounds in 2 months when i moved to japan. Considering i was only 150 to begin with its a lot I am not as concerned with kids weights as I am with their HEALTH, and too little food is going to do them no more good than too much, in fact, too little good food can have just as ill an effect on HEALTH as too much bad food so tying in weight problems with what people are able to spend on food is fallacious logic,,,and irrelevant to what should be i mportatn when raising children their HEALTH, ability to function and concentrate at school, ability to have energy to sustain through the day,,,all require proper nutrition which isnt going to happen on 25 dollars a week/per person in todays market,,,, Call bs on that. Its cheaper to eat healthy than to buy junk. Also kids need less calories then adults. Also food stamps should supplement not pay everything. A key element in all the liberal logic runs along the lines of any form of welfare should pay for everything. Therefore, housing supplements SHOULD pay for all housing. Food supplements should pay for all food. Etc, etc, etc.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 06/20/12 09:08 PM
And lots if doctors say to follow the food pyramid that lists gains as the largest food group but people used to never eat grains. They are just easy to mass produce for food. Not that they are healthiest. Many doctors also won't acknowledge natural remedies or other things. More than likely you ate too little and suffered energy loss so did less. Also when you list weight u didn't weight train and so lost muscle before fat and lowered your metabolism that way. I have personally lost considerable amount of weight in a shirt time from nit eating. Once I was sick and lost 20% of my body weight in a matter of about 3-4 weeks. Another time I lost 20 pounds in 2 months when i moved to japan. Considering i was only 150 to begin with its a lot I am not as concerned with kids weights as I am with their HEALTH, and too little food is going to do them no more good than too much, in fact, too little good food can have just as ill an effect on HEALTH as too much bad food so tying in weight problems with what people are able to spend on food is fallacious logic,,,and irrelevant to what should be i mportatn when raising children their HEALTH, ability to function and concentrate at school, ability to have energy to sustain through the day,,,all require proper nutrition which isnt going to happen on 25 dollars a week/per person in todays market,,,, Call bs on that. Its cheaper to eat healthy than to buy junk. Also kids need less calories then adults. Also food stamps should supplement not pay everything. supplement what? they are only for food... with little to no money paying other BILLS how much is left for food that can be merely 'supplemented' Im just a parent though, I have no clue what I speak of next to a gainfully employed young man who feeds 'HIMSELF' on fifty bucks a week,,,,

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 06/20/12 09:10 PM
And lots if doctors say to follow the food pyramid that lists gains as the largest food group but people used to never eat grains. They are just easy to mass produce for food. Not that they are healthiest. Many doctors also won't acknowledge natural remedies or other things. More than likely you ate too little and suffered energy loss so did less. Also when you list weight u didn't weight train and so lost muscle before fat and lowered your metabolism that way. I have personally lost considerable amount of weight in a shirt time from nit eating. Once I was sick and lost 20% of my body weight in a matter of about 3-4 weeks. Another time I lost 20 pounds in 2 months when i moved to japan. Considering i was only 150 to begin with its a lot I am not as concerned with kids weights as I am with their HEALTH, and too little food is going to do them no more good than too much, in fact, too little good food can have just as ill an effect on HEALTH as too much bad food so tying in weight problems with what people are able to spend on food is fallacious logic,,,and irrelevant to what should be i mportatn when raising children their HEALTH, ability to function and concentrate at school, ability to have energy to sustain through the day,,,all require proper nutrition which isnt going to happen on 25 dollars a week/per person in todays market,,,, Call bs on that. Its cheaper to eat healthy than to buy junk. Also kids need less calories then adults. Also food stamps should supplement not pay everything. A key element in all the liberal logic runs along the lines of any form of welfare should pay for everything. Therefore, housing supplements SHOULD pay for all housing. Food supplements should pay for all food. Etc, etc, etc. no, housing SUPPLEMENTS should help pay for housing according to what a recipient has AVAILABLE (thats called income based), but for recipients that have NO income, that often will mean the supplement has to cover the WHOLE cost food supplements also help pay for food according to what a recipient has AVAILABLE ,,(income based) for recipients who have no income, or little income to cover all the expesnes PLUSE food that usually means the food supplement will be all they have to eat as well,,, welfare is supposed to HELP families based upon what HELP they need at the time,, if you are not one of those families you have NO CLUE exactly what thst is,,,,,

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 06/20/12 09:17 PM
And lots if doctors say to follow the food pyramid that lists gains as the largest food group but people used to never eat grains. They are just easy to mass produce for food. Not that they are healthiest. Many doctors also won't acknowledge natural remedies or other things. More than likely you ate too little and suffered energy loss so did less. Also when you list weight u didn't weight train and so lost muscle before fat and lowered your metabolism that way. I have personally lost considerable amount of weight in a shirt time from nit eating. Once I was sick and lost 20% of my body weight in a matter of about 3-4 weeks. Another time I lost 20 pounds in 2 months when i moved to japan. Considering i was only 150 to begin with its a lot I am not as concerned with kids weights as I am with their HEALTH, and too little food is going to do them no more good than too much, in fact, too little good food can have just as ill an effect on HEALTH as too much bad food so tying in weight problems with what people are able to spend on food is fallacious logic,,,and irrelevant to what should be i mportatn when raising children their HEALTH, ability to function and concentrate at school, ability to have energy to sustain through the day,,,all require proper nutrition which isnt going to happen on 25 dollars a week/per person in todays market,,,, Call bs on that. Its cheaper to eat healthy than to buy junk. Also kids need less calories then adults. Also food stamps should supplement not pay everything. give me a sample of that healty 25 dollar a week menu for a child....please enlighten me....

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Thu 06/21/12 06:59 AM
And lots if doctors say to follow the food pyramid that lists gains as the largest food group but people used to never eat grains. They are just easy to mass produce for food. Not that they are healthiest. Many doctors also won't acknowledge natural remedies or other things. More than likely you ate too little and suffered energy loss so did less. Also when you list weight u didn't weight train and so lost muscle before fat and lowered your metabolism that way. I have personally lost considerable amount of weight in a shirt time from nit eating. Once I was sick and lost 20% of my body weight in a matter of about 3-4 weeks. Another time I lost 20 pounds in 2 months when i moved to japan. Considering i was only 150 to begin with its a lot I am not as concerned with kids weights as I am with their HEALTH, and too little food is going to do them no more good than too much, in fact, too little good food can have just as ill an effect on HEALTH as too much bad food so tying in weight problems with what people are able to spend on food is fallacious logic,,,and irrelevant to what should be i mportatn when raising children their HEALTH, ability to function and concentrate at school, ability to have energy to sustain through the day,,,all require proper nutrition which isnt going to happen on 25 dollars a week/per person in todays market,,,, Call bs on that. Its cheaper to eat healthy than to buy junk. Also kids need less calories then adults. Also food stamps should supplement not pay everything. supplement what? they are only for food... with little to no money paying other BILLS how much is left for food that can be merely 'supplemented' Im just a parent though, I have no clue what I speak of next to a gainfully employed young man who feeds 'HIMSELF' on fifty bucks a week,,,, Yea I am the bad guy because I was responsible, got an education in a field I could have a career I'm, didn't have kids I couldn't afford, etc. BTW how does a person who hasn't worked in 3 years always have access to the internet and have time to sit on forums?

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Thu 06/21/12 07:04 AM
Also I don't only feed myself. I feed my gf as well, pay for her school, etc.

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Thu 06/21/12 08:27 AM
And lots if doctors say to follow the food pyramid that lists gains as the largest food group but people used to never eat grains. They are just easy to mass produce for food. Not that they are healthiest. Many doctors also won't acknowledge natural remedies or other things. More than likely you ate too little and suffered energy loss so did less. Also when you list weight u didn't weight train and so lost muscle before fat and lowered your metabolism that way. I have personally lost considerable amount of weight in a shirt time from nit eating. Once I was sick and lost 20% of my body weight in a matter of about 3-4 weeks. Another time I lost 20 pounds in 2 months when i moved to japan. Considering i was only 150 to begin with its a lot I am not as concerned with kids weights as I am with their HEALTH, and too little food is going to do them no more good than too much, in fact, too little good food can have just as ill an effect on HEALTH as too much bad food so tying in weight problems with what people are able to spend on food is fallacious logic,,,and irrelevant to what should be i mportatn when raising children their HEALTH, ability to function and concentrate at school, ability to have energy to sustain through the day,,,all require proper nutrition which isnt going to happen on 25 dollars a week/per person in todays market,,,, Call bs on that. Its cheaper to eat healthy than to buy junk. Also kids need less calories then adults. Also food stamps should supplement not pay everything. A key element in all the liberal logic runs along the lines of any form of welfare should pay for everything. Therefore, housing supplements SHOULD pay for all housing. Food supplements should pay for all food. Etc, etc, etc. no, housing SUPPLEMENTS should help pay for housing according to what a recipient has AVAILABLE (thats called income based), but for recipients that have NO income, that often will mean the supplement has to cover the WHOLE cost food supplements also help pay for food according to what a recipient has AVAILABLE ,,(income based) for recipients who have no income, or little income to cover all the expesnes PLUSE food that usually means the food supplement will be all they have to eat as well,,, welfare is supposed to HELP families based upon what HELP they need at the time,, if you are not one of those families you have NO CLUE exactly what thst is,,,,, I suppose you don't realize that you just completely proved my point?

Citizen_Joe Joined Sat 04/12/08 Posts: 4036	Thu 06/21/12 10:37 AM Edited by Citizen_Joe on Thu 06/21/12 10:38 AM
Congress seems to think people on welfare can live on $90.00/month less while the cost of food has gone up 30% over the past year. Democrats are arguing that it's a GOP budget plan, but the real test will be which sellouts vote for it. In the bigger picture do you really think the government cares about America? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5QTSXAqqlc

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Thu 06/21/12 11:15 AM
Long-term welfare and UC Extensions are a drug.

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Thu 06/21/12 11:30 AM
Congress seems to think people on welfare can live on $90.00/month less while the cost of food has gone up 30% over the past year. Democrats are arguing that it's a GOP budget plan, but the real test will be which sellouts vote for it. In the bigger picture do you really think the government cares about America? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5QTSXAqqlc Welfare is ruining the country. Sorry but poor people are not entitled to my paycheck. People say we need illegals to do jobs Americans won't. Take away welfare and see if they don't do those jobs. He'll I wouldn't work either if the government is gonna pay for me to have housing, food, cell phone, etc.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 06/21/12 11:40 AM
And lots if doctors say to follow the food pyramid that lists gains as the largest food group but people used to never eat grains. They are just easy to mass produce for food. Not that they are healthiest. Many doctors also won't acknowledge natural remedies or other things. More than likely you ate too little and suffered energy loss so did less. Also when you list weight u didn't weight train and so lost muscle before fat and lowered your metabolism that way. I have personally lost considerable amount of weight in a shirt time from nit eating. Once I was sick and lost 20% of my body weight in a matter of about 3-4 weeks. Another time I lost 20 pounds in 2 months when i moved to japan. Considering i was only 150 to begin with its a lot I am not as concerned with kids weights as I am with their HEALTH, and too little food is going to do them no more good than too much, in fact, too little good food can have just as ill an effect on HEALTH as too much bad food so tying in weight problems with what people are able to spend on food is fallacious logic,,,and irrelevant to what should be i mportatn when raising children their HEALTH, ability to function and concentrate at school, ability to have energy to sustain through the day,,,all require proper nutrition which isnt going to happen on 25 dollars a week/per person in todays market,,,, Call bs on that. Its cheaper to eat healthy than to buy junk. Also kids need less calories then adults. Also food stamps should supplement not pay everything. supplement what? they are only for food... with little to no money paying other BILLS how much is left for food that can be merely 'supplemented' Im just a parent though, I have no clue what I speak of next to a gainfully employed young man who feeds 'HIMSELF' on fifty bucks a week,,,, Yea I am the bad guy because I was responsible, got an education in a field I could have a career I'm, didn't have kids I couldn't afford, etc. BTW how does a person who hasn't worked in 3 years always have access to the internet and have time to sit on forums? I have a supportive family, which many dont, I also had unemployment initially I also went back to school to earn my degree and used money (that I will have to PAY back) to get by I also have worked, I just havent held 'employment' ,, there is a big difference I have had to 'work' to receive assistance so I have continued being productive although I am struggling, never said you are a 'bad' guy, but those needing assistance arent either,,,,and dont deserve to be treated with any less dignity or respect just because they have needed help and might not have ths support systems of others ,,,,

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 06/21/12 11:41 AM
And lots if doctors say to follow the food pyramid that lists gains as the largest food group but people used to never eat grains. They are just easy to mass produce for food. Not that they are healthiest. Many doctors also won't acknowledge natural remedies or other things. More than likely you ate too little and suffered energy loss so did less. Also when you list weight u didn't weight train and so lost muscle before fat and lowered your metabolism that way. I have personally lost considerable amount of weight in a shirt time from nit eating. Once I was sick and lost 20% of my body weight in a matter of about 3-4 weeks. Another time I lost 20 pounds in 2 months when i moved to japan. Considering i was only 150 to begin with its a lot I am not as concerned with kids weights as I am with their HEALTH, and too little food is going to do them no more good than too much, in fact, too little good food can have just as ill an effect on HEALTH as too much bad food so tying in weight problems with what people are able to spend on food is fallacious logic,,,and irrelevant to what should be i mportatn when raising children their HEALTH, ability to function and concentrate at school, ability to have energy to sustain through the day,,,all require proper nutrition which isnt going to happen on 25 dollars a week/per person in todays market,,,, Call bs on that. Its cheaper to eat healthy than to buy junk. Also kids need less calories then adults. Also food stamps should supplement not pay everything. A key element in all the liberal logic runs along the lines of any form of welfare should pay for everything. Therefore, housing supplements SHOULD pay for all housing. Food supplements should pay for all food. Etc, etc, etc. no, housing SUPPLEMENTS should help pay for housing according to what a recipient has AVAILABLE (thats called income based), but for recipients that have NO income, that often will mean the supplement has to cover the WHOLE cost food supplements also help pay for food according to what a recipient has AVAILABLE ,,(income based) for recipients who have no income, or little income to cover all the expesnes PLUSE food that usually means the food supplement will be all they have to eat as well,,, welfare is supposed to HELP families based upon what HELP they need at the time,, if you are not one of those families you have NO CLUE exactly what thst is,,,,, I suppose you don't realize that you just completely proved my point? if your point is that assistance is a needs based issue which may mean a simple supplement to what is there, or the entire provision for what is not,,, than sure,,,

Citizen_Joe Joined Sat 04/12/08 Posts: 4036	Thu 06/21/12 11:44 AM
a family of four cannot eat off of one young man does,,, fatness and protein have nothing to do with the cost of FEEDING A FAMILY,,,, what one needs to eat healthy is still not going to be covered for 100 dollars per month I can afford to spend as much as I want to on food. Growing my own food all year long, I will likely spend less than $200.00/month on food for my family before too much longer. This is because my garage, in just over 32 square feet will have 144 square feet of gardening area in 3 vertical gardens. 1 array will be exclusively tobacco, and the remaining 2 will be for food, with minimal effort. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.420173988001847.99962.100000277474789&type=3 Tobacco? I don't plan to give up my vices, but are you also aware that tobacco is also used as a pesticide? On a side note, I probably don't have any bugs in me.

Citizen_Joe Joined Sat 04/12/08 Posts: 4036	Thu 06/21/12 11:45 AM Edited by Citizen_Joe on Thu 06/21/12 12:04 PM
Congress seems to think people on welfare can live on $90.00/month less while the cost of food has gone up 30% over the past year. Democrats are arguing that it's a GOP budget plan, but the real test will be which sellouts vote for it. In the bigger picture do you really think the government cares about America? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5QTSXAqqlc Welfare is ruining the country. Sorry but poor people are not entitled to my paycheck. People say we need illegals to do jobs Americans won't. Take away welfare and see if they don't do those jobs. He'll I wouldn't work either if the government is gonna pay for me to have housing, food, cell phone, etc. And yet, the very wealthy are entitled to huge tax breaks. You probably don't see how you're being pitted against other Americans. When other Americans are pitted against you, you'll remember this topic. Welfare is the result of a corrupt monetary system and crony capitalism, not the cause of our nation's problems.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 06/21/12 11:47 AM
Congress seems to think people on welfare can live on $90.00/month less while the cost of food has gone up 30% over the past year. Democrats are arguing that it's a GOP budget plan, but the real test will be which sellouts vote for it. In the bigger picture do you really think the government cares about America? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5QTSXAqqlc Welfare is ruining the country. Sorry but poor people are not entitled to my paycheck. People say we need illegals to do jobs Americans won't. Take away welfare and see if they don't do those jobs. He'll I wouldn't work either if the government is gonna pay for me to have housing, food, cell phone, etc. welfare is not ruining anything greed is,,,, the mentality of 'why should they have it' is ruining the country hate to see what will happen when those without children stop wanting to contribute to education or those without a desire to attend a sporting event stop wanting their taxes to build stadiums or those with no plan to go to an amusement park insist their taxes not build them or those who dont plan to be sick insist their taxes not contribute to builing hospitals,,, greed is destroying much more of the 'american' fabric than welfare ever could,,,

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Thu 06/21/12 01:22 PM
Minute maid park, pepsi stadium. These stadium's are not built with tax dollars.