I don't disagree with you on this in the least. You might have already read of my own struggles with the mother of my child. I'm grateful that she can have food stamps during her struggle and personally, help very little while she struggles. When she came home in January of 2011, she was barely more than skin and bones. I enjoyed being with her during the pregnancy and lived with her through all of her weight gain, and even watched the post pregnancy changes. Odds are, if she returns to be a mother, she will be skin and bones again. I would never vote to deny her food and wont let her stay here while she's using drugs.


The manipulation efforts and attempts to get me to pity her situation are pretty much met with a stereotypical response of where sympathy fits in the dictionary, between **** and syphillis. As for her stalking, she can't legally, and when she calls, I only point out the obvious, as her phone has automated GPS tracking. I'm almost as offended by her eating at McDonalds as I am of the cost of her crack addiction. As to the use of the phone, I know she's using it to make drug deals, and the usefulness of it is coming to an end. Meanwhile, she gets a picture of our baby and if it kills her, at least the GPS will tell us where the body is, or was.


Personally, yes. For the basics, however, there's always the risk my baby will lose her mother permanently. She's suffering for her addiction. She can't see her baby because of a protective order, she's homeless, and socially isolated. All she has is a bit of grace going for her and not nearly enough for her to be happy about what she's doing. In fact, the photos of the baby probably sting more than anything else.

Pro Testing argument. Done by tax payer.

Realistically, the only folks who should have a say in this are the ones paying the tax that supports drug users/addicts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqACKgBuHeM&feature=related

so much for democracy

I guess if we find most people who pay taxes dont have children in school, we should just turn over all the decisions about what is done in schools to them as well,,,,,


taxes arent a zero sum game, we dont take a scroll each year of who is paying to decide who gets a vote,,,

all citizens get a vote, all citizens pay some type of taxes, 'welfare' is not strictly funded by federal'income' taxes,,,,

Ms, I know you can't accept it but, she is right. Sorry.
How about this. If one test positive and has children. Have food available for them. Not food stamps but actual food for them.
My grandmother used to get food at a county food bank years ago.

would that require them to travel daily several times a day to eat?

would it require all taxpayers to agree on what 'food' could be served?

nope, the bottom line is, no matter what is done, so long as ANYT?HING is ever supplied to the poor, selfish people will scream 'entitlement' and have their panties in a punch about the 'undeserving' and what they are getting for free,,,,,

doesnt matter though, been several days since I resolved that people are greedy and selfish and easily influenced by the option to feel 'better' and 'more deserving' than others

make sure those people who need to eat dont have any addictions, spend the money,, I couldnt give a crap anymore,,,,

The single largest enemy in the war on drugs is the government. That the government is using us against each other is really no surprise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States


Before the mother of my child relapsed, I went to city counsel with this document I Created to carefully present my opinions on this war. My opinion hasn't changed since she relapsed.

http://www.oretek.com/drugs/drugs.doc


For the reading impaired -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSmBhj8tmoU

Ok, calm down. Don't get YOUR "panties in a punch".
There are food banks where food could be paid for by the taxpayers
and given to them. They could receive 2-3 weeks of food at a time until they are drug free. That's how they did it back then.
I'm sure there would be some abuses but it could work.
Sorry that you don't "give a crap anymore" but you have a blessed day.

thanx, you do the same

I've been looking around and haven't found anything on where Barry is opposed to this or plans to sue states that want to drug test welfare recipients.

No mention of any other politician sounding off agin' it either.

If'n Barry don't say he's agin' it, he must be fer it.

I almost missed this.

If they will make 2 or 3 trips to the pusher man, another couple trips fer food would do them good, no?

Si sen~yor (I'm learning spanish just in case). The new, non-illegals could work passing out the food to them and send the money to mexico.

Work???
Hell, they can now join the druggies standing in line.

I don't understand why people say it's unconstitutional. It's not your money. You are nother forced to take the money. Only if you want welfare do you have to take the test. It's like auto insurance. You can choose to not own a car. They also test your eyes for a license.

I am glad they make sure people can actually SEE before they give them a license to drive,, seems like a measure that protects OTHERS from harm,,,,


I am likewise glad they make sure those driving a car have the coverage to pay for accidents thay cause to OTHERS,,,


what protections OTHERS get from medical search and seizure of the poor doesnt quite follow along the same line of logic in my opinion

but hey,, what the heck , its just another requirement to weed out those truly worthy of help from those who will surely and certainly just blow the assistance on dope,,,,


,, keep adding to the list to make sure only the truly deserving receive necessary assistance

no big deal to me anymore either,, go for it,,,

It doesn't weed out anyone worthy because if you have no drugs in your system you pass. I am Sorry but anyone that thinks they ate untitled to my money better think again. It's a privilege not a right.

yes, eating is a privilege, shelter is a privilege, healthcare is a privilege,,,,,

in the civilized non commie world,,,it all comes down to life only being as much of an entitlement as you can 'pay for',,,



unlike the economic process anywhere else, once you pay taxes they remain 'your' money, and dont become part of the collective budget for the country,,,,,


,,IM learning fast,, trust me,,,,


the TAXPAYER argument,


the new order of things

the new bourgias system to keep the haves above the have nots,,,,and continue giving them the power based on their financial prowess rather than any true measure of their productivity or contribution to the society they gained that prowess in,,,,

Now, yer catchin' on!

Corporations have so much wealth, if, they cared about the human condition, they could set the poor up to live like kings or queens.

Yet, they lay it on the backs of the common Tax Payer and they are getting realllly fed up with it.

Call Dupont, Monsanto, Citi Corp. Tell them to feed the hungry. What do you think they would tell you?

Call Barry or Michelle and tell them you have hungry neighbors. I bet they will come to the rescue.

One gal already believes if she votes Barry, he will pay all her bills for her.

IM sure voters believe all types of nonsense about what a 'president' is capable of achieving single handedly,, especially their candidate

Funny to da' bone!
Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

Yes eating of my dime is a privilege.I worked at a grocer for 3 years in high-school and people with food stamps typically topped $400 in food. They were the only people I saw filling 2 carts and most of it is junk food. I easily feed myself on $50 a week and that includes about $80 in protein powder a month Anyone else notice the welfare people are never thin? Hell, most people begging for money on the side of the road are bigger than me.