Exodus 20:2
2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage
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Psalm 81:10
10 I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.
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Deuteronomy 5:6
6 I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
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Jesus himself is whom said he was the LORD thy God, that he was LORD God.

And you say the father didn't say he was LORD? Hmm, think you missed this I posted.

Philippians 2:9-10

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name

The father exalted him, made his name above all others. And as shown "lord" means highest rank. Thus with Jesus being above all others, he is the highest rank, thus he is Lord.

It is not our place to judge anyone, this would include children.


Matthew 7
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

And no again, time after time after time after time. The laws given to Moses, the old laws, the old covenant, has been fulfilled, completed, finished, finalized, obsolete, and we have been given a new set of laws. Which does not include stoning your children, does not include stoning anyone.

It's not that some laws were fulfilled but some still remain, the ENTIRE old covenant has been fulfilled, the ENTIRE, COMPLETE old covenant. And again, in the new covenant it does not tell us to stone our children or anyone else for that matter.

Cowboy...those passages are from The Old Testament ...you were supposed to show where The Father said anything about "Jesus" being Lord God in The New Testament....

your lies and scams make Satan look like a Altar Boy

Cowboy...you're babbling... if those laws were given...

then present the law

present the law from Jesus that tell Christians or followers that they are no longer allowed to stone their children but only allowed to hit them as discipline

Fuches, you're a funny man lol. Doesn't matter in this case if it's from old or new testament. It's referring to a person. We're not speaking of laws here, we're speaking of persons. They are the same being in the old and new testament.

Luke 10:27
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

Matthew 22:37
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Luke 4:8
8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Mark 12:29
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Matthew 5:39
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.


And again,

Matthew 7
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged

Cowboy...Jesus was talking about The Father not himself when referring to Lord ....especially the exchange between Jesus and Satan .....in Luke 4:8

your posts are only proving that The Father is Lord God

Cowboy....you should be banned from this site

If Jesus was referring to his father as "Lord" then whom is the God eg., the master? How many lords do we have until we reach the top of the line in chain of command?

Romans 10:9
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

??? What have I done that breaks a rule here????

Ceasar was Lord God and so was Baal...there were many Lords and Gods.....

so which one did the Father ever claim was Lord God?

the answer to that question should settle the argument

just protecting Mingle2 from a negligence lawsuit for allowing you to walk around their site without an attendent

unless you can give a rational explanation as to what turning the other cheek and not judging others have to do with Christians hitting their children as discipline

You do realize that when someone stones another, they stone them to death right? It's not just to hurt them, it's to end their life. Thus we have a judgement, someone had to first make the judgement that this child/person deserves a stoning.

And with doing this, this would be absolutely and completely not turning the other cheek.

Please give some passages that display Baal and Ceasar being referred to as Lord God.

Cowboy...you claimed that Jesus gave new laws to discipline a child instead of stoning them to death...

so which "teaching of Jesus" teaches that it's ok to strike a child as discipline....the two passages you presented "turning the other cheek" or "judge not" clearly would not apply to striking a child for discipline ...those passages would suggest the opposite, that the parents should never strike the child

THE QUESTION
which law or teaching of Jesus encourage or commands a Christian parent to strike their children as discipline?

if you can not provide "that teaching of Jesus or law" then you are wrong and Jesus did not change any laws pertaining to stoning children and therefore Christian parents are still required by God to stone their unruly children to death as discipline

Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's was the quote from Jesus that acknowlege that Caesar was Lord God on Earth ....Caesar was as you just stated "the master" "the top in the line of the chain of command...Lord God

Jesus was frighten of the Romans...which is why he never said to Pontious Pilate that he was anything associated with a God

Pontious Pilate jokingly crown Jesus to the rank of only a King...not even King of Kings or anything close to being a God

What are you talking about?

Can you provide a statement that I have made that says it's ok to strike your child? And don't do the quote thing, tell me what post number it is that I said the scritpures agree to it being right to physically strike your child.



And that's exactly why I posted those verses, really Funches what are you going on about here?

Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's is referring to taxes and things of that nature. Render unto Caesar what is Caesars and render unto God what is God's.

Why would Jesus be frightened of the Romans? And what exact evidence do you have of this? Not what kind of speculations do you have, but what kind of actual evidence do you have of this? Did Jesus claim to be?

Matthew 10:28
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Luke 12:4
4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.

So exactly why was Jesus "afraid" and again, where does it say he was.

Cowboy...what the Flock do you think we have been debating about for 20 pages...you have claimed that you believe it's ok to strike your child in the name of discipline ...I think you guys call it spanking instead of calling it domestic abuse

so now all you have to do is present a law or teaching of Jesus that deem Christian parents striking their child in the name of discipline acceptable

can you present a law or not

because if not....then the stoning laws God handed down to Moses still apply to Christians