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Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 05/29/12 04:02 PM
Capitalism is much less than what people want to make it out to be. I have a shovel. That is capital. I am not doing anything with that shovel. You are my neighbor and need to use a shovel for a few days, but do not want to buy one. I rent you my shovel to use for two days for much less than the price of the shovel. That is capitalism. THAT IS IT. Nothing more. Capitalism is good becuase it takes resources that are not being put to use, and puts them to use to the benefit of both parties. However it gets a bad rap, because people call political tinkering, or corporatism, capitalism. Capitalism is a leech that feeds off democracy Explain your comment given the real definition of capitalism. I supposed there are several definitions of capitalism. But what it truly has become is corporatism.

Bushidobillyclub Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 5689	Tue 05/29/12 04:03 PM Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Tue 05/29/12 04:05 PM
Capitalism is much less than what people want to make it out to be. I have a shovel. That is capital. I am not doing anything with that shovel. You are my neighbor and need to use a shovel for a few days, but do not want to buy one. I rent you my shovel to use for two days for much less than the price of the shovel. That is capitalism. THAT IS IT. Nothing more. Capitalism is good becuase it takes resources that are not being put to use, and puts them to use to the benefit of both parties. However it gets a bad rap, because people call political tinkering, or corporatism, capitalism. Capitalism is a leech that feeds off democracy Explain your comment given the real definition of capitalism. I supposed there are several definitions of capitalism. But what it truly has become is corporatism. No. There is only one meaning to capitalism. Capital put to use in return for a profit. Corporatism is a different beast, and no amount of calling capitalism something other than what it is will change that.

HotRodDeluxe Joined Sun 05/06/12 Posts: 2743	Tue 05/29/12 04:04 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism It's not perfect, but can anyone nominate a better alternative to democracy? How about for the republic we stand? A non-democratic republic? Do you really want that?

ARTDOG13 Joined Sun 05/13/12 Posts: 29	Tue 05/29/12 04:10 PM
Capitalism is much less than what people want to make it out to be. I have a shovel. That is capital. I am not doing anything with that shovel. You are my neighbor and need to use a shovel for a few days, but do not want to buy one. I rent you my shovel to use for two days for much less than the price of the shovel. That is capitalism. THAT IS IT. Nothing more. Capitalism is good becuase it takes resources that are not being put to use, and puts them to use to the benefit of both parties. However it gets a bad rap, because people call political tinkering, or corporatism, capitalism. Capitalism is a leech that feeds off democracy Explain your comment given the real definition of capitalism.

ARTDOG13 Joined Sun 05/13/12 Posts: 29	Tue 05/29/12 04:13 PM
Capitalism is much less than what people want to make it out to be. I have a shovel. That is capital. I am not doing anything with that shovel. You are my neighbor and need to use a shovel for a few days, but do not want to buy one. I rent you my shovel to use for two days for much less than the price of the shovel. That is capitalism. THAT IS IT. Nothing more. Capitalism is good becuase it takes resources that are not being put to use, and puts them to use to the benefit of both parties. However it gets a bad rap, because people call political tinkering, or corporatism, capitalism. Capitalism is a leech that feeds off democracy Explain your comment given the real definition of capitalism. Democracy equals thae majority benefits capitalism means the minority benefits.

ARTDOG13 Joined Sun 05/13/12 Posts: 29	Tue 05/29/12 04:17 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism It's not perfect, but can anyone nominate a better alternative to democracy? I'm not asking for an altermative to democracy.

HotRodDeluxe Joined Sun 05/06/12 Posts: 2743	Tue 05/29/12 04:20 PM
Democracy is rule by the people. It has nothing to do with the distribution of wealth.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 05/29/12 04:22 PM
Democracy is rule by the people. It has nothing to do with the distribution of wealth. If we have a democracy then we, the people rule. Do we? It doesn't look like it.

HotRodDeluxe Joined Sun 05/06/12 Posts: 2743	Tue 05/29/12 04:23 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism It's not perfect, but can anyone nominate a better alternative to democracy? I'm not asking for an altermative to democracy. In wasn't necessarily resoponding to you.

ARTDOG13 Joined Sun 05/13/12 Posts: 29	Tue 05/29/12 04:23 PM
So why then do the people who have more wealth control the political system ?

HotRodDeluxe Joined Sun 05/06/12 Posts: 2743	Tue 05/29/12 04:24 PM
Democracy is rule by the people. It has nothing to do with the distribution of wealth. If we have a democracy then we, the people rule. Do we? It doesn't look like it. Do you vote for representatives to govern?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 05/29/12 04:24 PM
A democratic republic is a country which is both a republic and a democracy, however in practise countries which describe themselves as democratic republics do not always hold free or fair elections, an example of which was the German Democratic Republic, a communist dictatorship commonly known as East Germany.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 05/29/12 04:26 PM
So why then do the people who have more wealth control the political system ? Advertising.

ARTDOG13 Joined Sun 05/13/12 Posts: 29	Tue 05/29/12 04:28 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism It's not perfect, but can anyone nominate a better alternative to democracy? I'm not asking for an altermative to democracy. In wasn't necessarily resoponding to you. I started the debate.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 05/29/12 04:30 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism It's not perfect, but can anyone nominate a better alternative to democracy? George Bush says a dictatorship would be a lot easier. Do you like George Bush?

Bushidobillyclub Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 5689	Tue 05/29/12 04:33 PM Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Tue 05/29/12 04:36 PM
Capitalism is much less than what people want to make it out to be. I have a shovel. That is capital. I am not doing anything with that shovel. You are my neighbor and need to use a shovel for a few days, but do not want to buy one. I rent you my shovel to use for two days for much less than the price of the shovel. That is capitalism. THAT IS IT. Nothing more. Capitalism is good becuase it takes resources that are not being put to use, and puts them to use to the benefit of both parties. However it gets a bad rap, because people call political tinkering, or corporatism, capitalism. Capitalism is a leech that feeds off democracy Explain your comment given the real definition of capitalism. Democracy equals thae majority benefits capitalism means the minority benefits. Your just making assertions. How do you come to the conclusion that allowing someone to make use of your property in order to achieve some goal, but at a price, equals the minority benefits? Because everyone involved is benefiting, from the person making use of the capital to the person who loans it out for profit. You will have to explain. So why then do the people who have more wealth control the political system ? The governance system is not the same as capitalism. You are equivocating.

ARTDOG13 Joined Sun 05/13/12 Posts: 29	Tue 05/29/12 04:34 PM Edited by ARTDOG13 on Tue 05/29/12 04:38 PM
Good point BUT I don't fave to explain anything I'M vot defending capitalism.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 05/29/12 04:34 PM
Capitalism is much less than what people want to make it out to be. I have a shovel. That is capital. I am not doing anything with that shovel. You are my neighbor and need to use a shovel for a few days, but do not want to buy one. I rent you my shovel to use for two days for much less than the price of the shovel. That is capitalism. THAT IS IT. Nothing more. Capitalism is good becuase it takes resources that are not being put to use, and puts them to use to the benefit of both parties. However it gets a bad rap, because people call political tinkering, or corporatism, capitalism. Capitalism is a leech that feeds off democracy Explain your comment given the real definition of capitalism. Democracy equals thae majority benefits capitalism means the minority benefits. Your just making assertions. How do you come to the conclusion that allowing someone to make use of your property in order to achieve some goal, but at a price equals the minority benefits? Because everyone involved is benefiting, from the person making use of the capital to the person who loans it out for profit. You will have to explain. I agree. Ardog13 will have to explain. His statements don't make much sense.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 05/29/12 04:35 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 05/29/12 04:36 PM
Good point Explain please.

ARTDOG13 Joined Sun 05/13/12 Posts: 29	Tue 05/29/12 04:52 PM
Look all I'M saying is that denocracy is a political system that is supposed to, in theory, benefit the majority but that the economic system of capitalism seems to benefit a minority. Therefore, how can a democracy be democratic, when the minority who control the economic wealth also get all the benefits of that society ?