That must tread on anothers beliefs in life to make themselves happy and violate a fellowship............I am at a loss as to why they must attack christ instead of just not believe.
I am curious do they think they will deter faith somehow??

I dunno but I tire of their whiny complaints.

I'm annoyed by anyone who feels their beliefs and views are above all else. I'm annoyed by anyone traumatized by something but takes it out on everyone else who has nothing to do with what happened to them. I'm annoyed by those who ignorantly follow, just because they can't think for themselves.

If you found something that works for you, I'm happy for you. If you are interested in the path I chose, I will gladly help you and share with you what I have gathered, if you're not, I can understand and respect that as well.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Paul is a good example. The 180 degree turn is sometimes needed and sometimes not. Lot's wife must have made a good statue. When Jesus said,

Matthew 5:13 "Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men."

Preference is awesome. What would free choice be without preference?

Ye are the salt of the earth - Salt renders food pleasant and palatable, and preserves from putrefaction. So Christians, by their lives and instructions, are to keep the world from entire moral corruption. By bringing down the blessing of God in answer to their prayers, and by their influence and example, they save the world from universal vice and crime.

Salt have lost its savour - That is, if it has become tasteless, or has lost its preserving properties. The salt used in this country is a chemical compound - chloride of sodium - and if the saltness were lost, or it were to lose its savor, there would be nothing remaining. It enters into the very nature of the substance. In eastern countries, however, the salt used was impure, or mingled with vegetable or earthy substances, so that it might lose the whole of its saltness, and a considerable quantity of earthy matter remain. This was good for nothing, except that it was used to place in paths, or walks, as we use gravel. This kind of salt is common still in that country. It is found in the earth in veins or layers, and when exposed to the sun and rain, loses its saltness entirely. Maundrell says, "I broke a piece of it, of which that part that was exposed to the rain, sun, and air, though it had the sparks and particles of salt, yet it had perfectly lost its savor. The inner part, which was connected to the rock, retained its savor, as I found by proof. So Dr. Thomson (The Land and the Book, vol. ii. pp. 43, 44) says, "I have often seen just such salt, and the identical disposition of it that our Lord has mentioned. A merchant of Sidon having farmed of the government the revenue from the importation of salt, brought over an immense quantity from the marshes of Cyprus - enough, in fact, to supply the whole province for at least 20 years. This he had transferred to the mountains, to cheat the government out of some small percentage. Sixty-five houses in June - Lady Stanhope's village were rented and filled with salt. These houses have merely earthen floors, and the salt next the ground, in a few years, entirely spoiled. I saw large quantities of it literally thrown into the street, to be trodden underfoot by people and beasts. It was 'good for nothing.'

"It should be stated in this connection that the salt used in this country is not manufactured by boiling clean salt water, nor quarried from mines, but is obtained from marshes along the seashore, as in Cyprus, or from salt lakes in the interior, which dry up in summer, as the one in the desert north of Palmyra, and the great lake of Jebbul, southeast of Aleppo.

"Maundrell, who visited the lake at Jebbul, tells us that he found salt there which had entirely 'lost its savor,' and the same abounds among the debris at Usdum, and in other localities of rocksalt at the south end of the Dead Sea. Indeed, it is a well-known fact that the salt of this country, when in contact with the ground, or exposed to rain and sun, does become insipid and useless. From the manner in which it is gathered, much earth and other impurities are necessarily collected with it. Not a little of it is so impure that it cannot be used at all, and such salt soon effloresces and turns to dust - not to fruitful soil, however. It is not only good for nothing itself, but it actually destroys all fertility wherever it is thrown; and this is the reason why it is cast into the street. There is a sort of verbal verisimilitude in the manner in which our Lord alludes to the act: 'it is cast out' and 'trodden under foot;' so troublesome is this corrupted salt, that it is carefully swept up, carried forth, and thrown into the street. There is no place about the house, yard, or garden where it can be tolerated. No man will allow it to be thrown on to his field, and the only place for it is the street, and there it is cast to be trodden underfoot of men."

http://bible.cc/matthew/5-13.htm

Just connect to the rock and they won't annoy you so bad.

Matthew 16:18


And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Jesus Tells
A Parable of the Sower.

Luke 8:4-15

4, And when much people were gathered together, and were come to him out of every city,
he spake by a parable:

5, A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side;
and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it.

6, And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away,
because it lacked moisture.

7, And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and choked it.

8, And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold.
And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

9, And his disciples asked him, saying, What might this parable be?

10, And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God:
but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.



11, Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.


12, Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil,
and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.

13, They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy;
and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

14, And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth,
and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.

15, But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart,
having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.


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Many atheists today are on a mission to still the Word out of men's hearts.

It seems at times, some "believers" position themselves so that they can take in some atheist's opinion...
as Adam and Eve did with the serpent in the Garden.
These are the lukewarm, Christians.
They compromise their faith by hanging to close to the haters of God.
They allow satan to stir up doubt in their hearts.

They take the bait and thereafter, begin to doubt their own precious faith in God.

I believe Jesus wants us to realize it is the works of satan

to try the the faith of men, to tempt them to fall.

on the same token we are not called to be indifferent toward what we are witnessing.

Do the spiritually dead know that they are spiritually dead?

exactly my point....dont trod on another.....

honestly it really doesn't bother me ....... I was just making a point

This view you have here is pretty important to you, huh Totage?

It's plain to see, criticism comes from all angles.

All that is necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to stand by and do nothing. I watched one hateful thread against my Lord thinking it would be wise to ignore. Until the outright disrespect began to hurt my spirit. Then I stood and declared

My love and devotion to Him. I want to thank those of you who did as well.

I was just saying.

Actually, I would be quite worried if anyone was interested in the path I'm currently on. lol

Awww Totage, seems to me at times your faith waivers.

I really don't consider myself as an all-wise one,
but I believe I'm right in advising you to trust in the Lord with all your heart.
Allow the Lord to bring your thoughts into captivity, to make them obedient to Christ.

If you've believed before keep believing.

"(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal,
but mighty through God
to the pulling down of strong holds;)

Casting down imaginations,
and every high thing that exalteth
itself against the knowledge of God,
and bringing into captivity every thought
to the obedience of Christ;"
2 Corinthians 10:5,

the word atheist kinda makes me chuckle...

when they are facing death or something horrible happens...

usually the first thing they say is...

"OH GOD!"

really? oh who?

i feel a sadness for those who dont know Christ. i do not judge them tho, it is not my job nor is it my place, but i do pray for them. i am far far far from perfect... but i believe in God, i pray and i love my Lord for all he has done, is doing and continues to do for me in my life. i am soooo very blessed.

This is so true!

"Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John,
and perceived that they were uneducated and untrained men,
they marveled.
And they realized that they had been with Jesus."

— Book of Acts, chapter 4, verses 6 thru 13
(Passage taken from the New King James Version of the Holy Bible.)

No.

The life they live now is the only life they know...

They don't realize they are dead while they live.

The Lord quickens the spirit of man. Man becomes born-again!

Eternal life awaits those who have been quickened.