What I fail to understand are people who insist on using the Anti-Semitic claim when it has been pointed out time and time again that to be Anti-Zionist is not being Anti-Semitic.

Joe Biden is a self confessed Zionist and he is not Jewish.

So to be Anti-Joe Biden is being Anti-Zionist Not Anti-Jewish.

As far as labeling people Jew Haters and self hating Jews, that is all part of the School of Hasbara.

It doesnt work any more folks...give it up and find some new ideas, you are letting yourselves down, get some thoughts of of your own.

Shooting The Messenger achieves nothing and only shows up the accusers for their lack of individual thought.

Of course if their neighbors really hate the Israelis it is because of WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. And being hated is not a reason to think that they "deserve" our money. Please. That's ridiculous.

They used terrorism to invade a country they claim was "given" to them. (By God, or the British... I can't remember who.)

People will resist aggressors, infiltrators, thieves. People will hate them. You will know them by their deeds. They are Illuminati... not necessarily "Jews." Not all Jews are Zionist thieves. Not all Zionist thieves are Jews.

But so many of the Zionists nationalists claim to be Jewish, that they give the impression that all Jews are like them. This is not true. But anti-Zionist Jews will tell you that Zionist Jews are the ones who are engendering the hatred of Jews..... by their deeds.

Of course if their neighbors really hate the Israelis it is because of WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. And being hated is not a reason to think that they "deserve" our money. Please. That's ridiculous.

They used terrorism to invade a country they claim was "given" to them. (By God, or the British... I can't remember who.)

People will resist aggressors, infiltrators, thieves. People will hate them. You will know them by their deeds. They are Illuminati... not necessarily "Jews." Not all Jews are Zionist thieves. Not all Zionist thieves are Jews.

But so many of the Zionists nationalists claim to be Jewish, that they give the impression that all Jews are like them. This is not really true. But anti-Zionist Jews will tell you that Zionist Jews are who are engendering the hatred by their deeds.

i find that hard to believe... and your anti-Israel posts say otherwise. what i do know about you is what i read in here, and i wouldn't say that about anyone unless i have seen enough to justify it. if it bothers you, maybe stop posting all the anti Israel crap, and then nobody would call you that...

Of course if their neighbors really hate the Israelis it is because of WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. And being hated is not a reason to think that they "deserve" our money. Please. That's ridiculous.

They used terrorism to invade a country they claim was "given" to them. (By God, or the British... I can't remember who.)

People will resist aggressors, infiltrators, thieves. People will hate them. You will know them by their deeds. They are Illuminati... not necessarily "Jews." Not all Jews are Zionist thieves. Not all Zionist thieves are Jews.

But so many of the Zionists nationalists claim to be Jewish, that they give the impression that all Jews are like them. This is not true. But anti-Zionist Jews will tell you that Zionist Jews are the ones who are engendering the hatred of Jews..... by their deeds.

They used terrorism to invade a country they claim was "given" to them. (By God, or the British... I can't remember who.)


"A land without a people for a people without a land"

interesting... your allowed your opinion, but i am not?

just because you think you know something doesn't mean it's true
fact is, you have no idea why the muslims hate the Jews, and neither do I. but these one sided attacks that you people do on Israel doesn't help anything...

Things that define anti-semitism...

1. Anti-semitism is still big news that has simply evolved into more contemporary forms that reflect current events...A good example would be a "Truthers" conspiracy theory claiming Jews were involved in 9/11...
2. Holocaust denial...
3. Holocaust glorification...
4. Holocaust relativism...
5. "Blurring the Lines" between opposition to the policies of the State of Israel and anti-semitism....Something that is done easily and often...
6. Promoting fear & hatred of the "other" in the name of protecting the identity or purity of a nation....Other meaning immigrants or religious & ethnic minorities....

I have read examples of all six posted time after time after time....Flagrant anti-semitism...

How exactly is Israel stealing land? They gave up the entire Egyptian Sinai to Egypt for peace, that they won in a defensive war.

They gave up every inch of Gaza in the hopes for peace, and got Hamas and rockets instead of peace.

The Germans started and lost WW 2. Russia and Poland have 'occupied' their land since 1945.
Israel was attacked at its birth 3 years later in 1948, and many times since. Why are they occupying, when Russia and Poland are not? Let's be consistent. Had the Arabs not attacked, they would not be whining now. Why is there a different standard always for Israel and its little sliver of land (less than NJ) that they have developed and made bloom.

Israel accepted 850,000 Jewish refugees from Arab lands after 1948. Why haven't the Arabs with all their oil wealth and land, not absorbed the Palis? 98% of the so-called Palis are under their rule..

me too, but they are in denial about this... The mods usually lock these threads down, but we have been tolerable so far, i guess... i like the way they keep saying "Zionism" instead of Jews or Israelis, like we are stupid or something...

Back to Iran... The Beating of The Drums



House Bill Shifting Red Line for War on Iran Passes Overwhelmingly
The bill calls for a military strike if Iran obtains nuclear "capability"
by John Glaser, May 17, 2012

A bill in the House of Representatives has just been passed which inches the United States dangerously close to war with Iran just days ahead of a second round of diplomatic talks with Iran about its nuclear program.

The vote, passed 401-11, effectively calls for a military attack on Iran when it obtains a “nuclear weapons capability” – an undefined term that, by some interpretations, could already apply to Iran, not to mention Brazil, Japan, the Netherlands, and any other country with a civilian nuclear program.

“Current U.S. policy is that Iran cannot acquire nuclear weapons,” said Dennis Kucinch (D-Ohio), one of the few who voted against the bill. “Instead, H.Res. 568 draws the red line for military action at Iran achieving a nuclear weapons capability, a nebulous and undefined term that would include a civilian nuclear program.”

The shifting of the so-called “red-line” is instructive. Hawkish rhetoric for some time now has been that Iran is developing nuclear weapons and this provides a pretext for war unless we can reverse their course. The problem is that this rhetoric is not true: the U.S. military and intelligence community are in consensus that Iran has no nuclear weapons program.

And so the red-line shifted to include something Iran is doing, namely enriching uranium for peaceful purposes. Some argue that the Iranian government simply having the know-how for building nukes is enough to attack it, but that is an absurd justification for war if for no other reason that knowledge doesn’t amount to an imminent threat. The attack would therefore be a war of aggression - one without the justification for self-defense - which international law designates a serious war crime.

Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, former Chief of Staff for Secretary of State Colin Powell, warned “This resolution reads like the same sheet of music that got us into the Iraq war, and could be the precursor for a war with Iran….it’s effectively a thinly-disguised effort to bless war.”

This hysterical theater of peril on the Iranian nuclear issue is not based on any credible threat. Contrary to the propaganda, there is a consensus in the U.S. military and intelligence community that Iran is not developing nuclear weapons and has not shown any intention to do so. Worse still, the policies now being applied are likely to bring about exactly the result the hawks say they’re trying to prevent: an emboldened, nuclear-armed Iran.

Hysterical?
The only Hysteria I see is the one by those who haven't got an Inkling of what Iran is up to!

http://articles.boston.com/2010-06-15/news/29307015_1_iran-cleric-nuclear-weapons-supreme-leader

http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com/2011/04/iranian-armageddon.html

Not everyone is fooled by that Bignosed Iranian Buffoon!


Only those who wait for the 12th Imam!


Iran cleric calls for ‘special weapons’
June 15, 2010|Ali Akbar Dareini, Associated Press

TEHRAN — The hard-line spiritual mentor of Iran’s president has made a rare public call for producing the “special weapons’’ that are a monopoly of a few nations — a veiled reference to nuclear arms.

Ayatollah Mohammad Taqi Mesbah Yazdi wrote in a book circulated among senior clerics that Iran should not deprive itself of the right to produce these “special weapons.’’

Iran’s government and its clerical hierarchy have repeatedly denied the country is seeking nuclear weapons, as alleged by the United States and its allies.

The Security Council last week imposed a fourth round of sanctions in response to Tehran’s refusal to halt uranium enrichment, which Iran maintains is only for its nuclear energy program, but could conceivably be used to produce material for weapons.

The new UN sanctions call for an asset freeze of another 40 additional companies and organizations, including 22 involved in nuclear or ballistic missile activities.

European Union foreign ministers agreed yesterday to recommend a package of additional sanctions against Iran that go beyond the UN measures. Those sanctions would focus on trade, especially on dual-use items that could have nuclear applications. They also would further restrict insurance and financial transactions.

Yazdi’s hard-line views, including devotion to the Mahdi, a messiah-like figure to reappear ahead of judgment day, have had a strong impact on President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who shows him more respect than any other senior cleric.

Yazdi’s book, “The Islamic Revolution — Surges in Political Changes in History,’’ was written in 2005 and then reprinted last year but would have had only a very limited circulation among senior clerics and would not have been widely known.

“The most advanced weapons must be produced inside our country even if our enemies don’t like it. There is no reason that they have the right to produce a special type of weapons, while other countries are deprived of it,’’ Yazdi wrote.

Yazdi is a member of the Assembly of Experts, a conservative body of 86 senior clerics that monitors Iran’s supreme leader and chooses his successor. He also heads the Imam Khomeini Educational and Research Institute, an Islamic think tank, in the holy city of Qom, 80 miles south of the capital.

In his book, Yazdi said Iran must acquire the necessary deterrent weapons in order to stand up to its enemies.

“Under Islamic teachings, all common tools and materialistic instruments must be employed against the enemy and prevent [the] enemy’s military superiority,’’ he said.

He also said Muslims must not allow a few powers to monopolize certain weapons in their arsenal.

I don't think the fear mongering about nuclear weapons has anything to do with it.

Fear is the excuse to preemptively strike.

Does Israel really want peace? What else do they want?