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Topic: Black neighborHOODs
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Thu 04/12/12 11:32 AM
I was just wondering why black neighborhoods don't have citizens that patrol their own streets? Black neighborhoods have higher crime rates and murders than any others. Businesses do not want to open in black neighborhoods.I guess that they prefer to have gangs and thugs do it for them? I know that here, black communities keep re-electing crooked black politicians again and again. And then they blame the white politicians for their bad neighborhoods and conditions. Just wondering.
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Totage's photo
Thu 04/12/12 11:38 AM
You haven't been here or to most parts of the U.S. then have you?

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Thu 04/12/12 11:40 AM

You haven't been here or to most parts of the U.S. then have you?


I don't know where here is but most areas are fairly typical. Do you see it differently?

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Thu 04/12/12 11:58 AM


Here in Tucson there is an area that covers about 4 square miles and over the last 5-6 years the government has been bringing in African refugees and giving them places to live, since this has been happening the crime in this area has gone up significantly. Theft and violent crimes are the most prominent.

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Thu 04/12/12 12:05 PM



Here in Tucson there is an area that covers about 4 square miles and over the last 5-6 years the government has been bringing in African refugees and giving them places to live, since this has been happening the crime in this area has gone up significantly. Theft and violent crimes are the most prominent.


after katrina, they moved a bunch of "people" here to Houston, and the crime rate went up almost 3 times the rate it was before they moved here. and people are always whining about why so many blacks in jail...

TBRich's photo
Thu 04/12/12 12:13 PM
refugees need more than housing and surplus military MREs. Are they staying? Are they working? Is some helping them with this?

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Thu 04/12/12 12:26 PM

I was just wondering why black neighborhoods don't have citizens that patrol their own streets? Black neighborhoods have higher crime rates and murders than any others. Businesses do not want to open in black neighborhoods.I guess that they prefer to have gangs and thugs do it for them? I know that here, black communities keep re-electing crooked black politicians again and again. And then they blame the white politicians for their bad neighborhoods and conditions. Just wondering.
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actually, black neighborhoods do have citizen patrols, they just arent always 'called' citizen patrols. Black neighborhoods have neighbors who look out for each other, particularly where you find NOI families....for instance


The issue is that in most cases where a neighborhood is PREDOMINATELY black, the cause is economic and not racial,, and when you figure in for economically impoverishment, there will often be more crime. When you adjust for economic similarity,, white and black neighborhoods arent so different.

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Thu 04/12/12 12:27 PM


I was just wondering why black neighborhoods don't have citizens that patrol their own streets? Black neighborhoods have higher crime rates and murders than any others. Businesses do not want to open in black neighborhoods.I guess that they prefer to have gangs and thugs do it for them? I know that here, black communities keep re-electing crooked black politicians again and again. And then they blame the white politicians for their bad neighborhoods and conditions. Just wondering.
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actually, black neighborhoods do have citizen patrols, they just arent always 'called' citizen patrols. Black neighborhoods have neighbors who look out for each other, particularly where you find NOI families....for instance


The issue is that in most cases where a neighborhood is PREDOMINATELY black, the cause is economic and not racial,, and when you figure in for economically impoverishment, there will often be more crime. When you adjust for economic similarity,, white and black neighborhoods arent so different.


yeah, what she said.

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Thu 04/12/12 04:30 PM



I was just wondering why black neighborhoods don't have citizens that patrol their own streets? Black neighborhoods have higher crime rates and murders than any others. Businesses do not want to open in black neighborhoods.I guess that they prefer to have gangs and thugs do it for them? I know that here, black communities keep re-electing crooked black politicians again and again. And then they blame the white politicians for their bad neighborhoods and conditions. Just wondering.
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actually, black neighborhoods do have citizen patrols, they just arent always 'called' citizen patrols. Black neighborhoods have neighbors who look out for each other, particularly where you find NOI families....for instance


The issue is that in most cases where a neighborhood is PREDOMINATELY black, the cause is economic and not racial,, and when you figure in for economically impoverishment, there will often be more crime. When you adjust for economic similarity,, white and black neighborhoods arent so different.


yeah, what she said.


But why do these same black neighborhoods or districts keep voting these same crooked politicians back in? It is plain to see that these politicians are not doing good for their constituents just for themselves. When a good person does run he is tagged an "uncle tom" or some other name and not elected. Economics plays a part sure but there has to be another reason that their neighborhoods are in decline.

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Thu 04/12/12 04:35 PM
Same reason predominantly white communities do the same thing.

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Thu 04/12/12 04:36 PM
beat me to the punch,,,,

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Thu 04/12/12 05:17 PM
Okay, we can't sit here and pretend that white people ever elected a crack head as mayor after he was caught with drugs and prostitutes. White folks vote for some lousy candidates (like Obama), but I don't know that they have ever voted en mass for a criminal who was caught on tape.

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Thu 04/12/12 05:28 PM

Same reason predominantly white communities do the same thing.


I don't think that is the case. The ones in white areas that are caught, usually drop out, resign or are simply not re-elected. There is a double standard so to say. In Dallas for instance, the only way that a crooked black politician to be removed from office is by the FBI following an investigation, indictment and trial. We have had several in recent past.

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Thu 04/12/12 05:29 PM

Okay, we can't sit here and pretend that white people ever elected a crack head as mayor after he was caught with drugs and prostitutes. White folks vote for some lousy candidates (like Obama), but I don't know that they have ever voted en mass for a criminal who was caught on tape.

True

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Thu 04/12/12 05:59 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 04/12/12 06:01 PM
The major cause of crime in any neighborhood is drugs! Not just black neighborhoods, although black and hispanic gangs have capitalized on this market.

Ron Paul (I know....here come the RP haters to get me! laugh ) sees the cause of this violence. The war on drugs, just like the war on alcohol, has created the cash based profitability and underbelly that thrives on the illegal activities arising from this prohibition!

Think about it! We spend billions of $$ fighting a war against personal freedom that causes a "sickness". We then pay higher taxes to imprision MOSTLY the non-violent "infected" offenders of these crimes.

Our war on drugs profits the cartels, fills our jails adding further to the tax burden of people who aren't even associated with them, bad police raids kill innocent homeowners and cause resentment to our body of law enforcement, and those affected with this sickness add to crime rates to support "habits" because our governments failed policies would rather spend to incarcerate than cure or educate!

If the war on drugs over these last many years had actually shown an improvement to the problem, there wouldn't BE a problem! It's the failed policy that has been proven the culprit, escalated our police state and trampled our liberties, and made this a MOST PROFITABLE enterprise which promotes involvement by the criminal elements of the world even down to small local communities.

Blame and fix the cause of the problem rather than stereotyping the victims!

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Thu 04/12/12 06:11 PM
I think its economic conditions that lead to the drugs. My future ex wife is a social worker her clients are from a poor white community its as bad as you can imagine it to be.

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Thu 04/12/12 06:18 PM
If we legalized and put as much money into Psychology, counseling and leadership......we would have a better country with less criminals moving to escalate crime.........

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Thu 04/12/12 06:19 PM


Same reason predominantly white communities do the same thing.


I don't think that is the case. The ones in white areas that are caught, usually drop out, resign or are simply not re-elected. There is a double standard so to say. In Dallas for instance, the only way that a crooked black politician to be removed from office is by the FBI following an investigation, indictment and trial. We have had several in recent past.

then they took about 12 of them at the same time...

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Thu 04/12/12 06:32 PM



Same reason predominantly white communities do the same thing.


I don't think that is the case. The ones in white areas that are caught, usually drop out, resign or are simply not re-elected. There is a double standard so to say. In Dallas for instance, the only way that a crooked black politician to be removed from office is by the FBI following an investigation, indictment and trial. We have had several in recent past.

then they took about 12 of them at the same time...

Yea, and I think more to come.

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Thu 04/12/12 09:06 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 04/12/12 09:08 PM

Okay, we can't sit here and pretend that white people ever elected a crack head as mayor after he was caught with drugs and prostitutes. White folks vote for some lousy candidates (like Obama), but I don't know that they have ever voted en mass for a criminal who was caught on tape.



I Think white folks tend to trust authorities and their 'evidence' more and black folks probably tend to believe authorities are capable of fabricating, setting up, and outright lying

I also think people tend to prioritize 'crimes' based upon their personal experiences and not any true measure of 'harm'

there have been plenty of CORRUPT white politicians, whether their 'crime' was a crack pipe or not



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