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Topic: Black Florida Teen Convicted of Killing Two "Crackers".
InvictusV's photo
Wed 03/28/12 04:30 PM
Double murderer: Teenager guilty of killing two lost Brits who strayed into 'wrong' area on holiday

Brits James Kouzaris and James Cooper were gunned down after they drunkenly walked into a public housing estate in Sarasota

An American teenager was found guilty tonight of shooting dead two British friends on holiday in Florida.

Shawn Tyson, 17, murdered the James Cooper, 24, and James Kouzaris, 25, who were drunk and lost in a rundown housing estate in Sarasota, Florida.

Tennis coach Mr Kouzaris, from Northampton, and town planner Mr Cooper, from Hampton Lucy near Warwick, walked into The Court in the early hours of 16 April last year.

They were confronted by Tyson, who tried to rob them, then when they had no money, told them: “Well since you ain’t got no money, I got something for your ***.”

The men pleaded to go home, saying they were drunk, but the teenager, then 16, shot first one of them, then the other.

When they were found, both still had their wallets and cash.

Tyson boasted to friend Latrece Washington that one of the victims was “crying for his life”, and he had shot him and “emptied the clip on him”.

Jermaine Bane said a series of calls were made around the time of the shots and in one, heard Tyson mention two “crackers”, or white men, walking in the area.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/florida-shootings-shawn-tyson-convicted-773305

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Wed 03/28/12 04:35 PM
Well, where are all the complaints that they are racists?

You know what I think is racist? When an African American posts he or she is proud to be black. If I posted I were proud to be white, I'd be called a racist or white-supremist. We can't help what color our skin is. I'd rather be saying I am proud to be a Christian or a good mother or anti-violent or anti-racist!! Racism comes in all shades and...races. Sad, sad shame that people are still so against each other over color and race. I like to detest people on an individual basis, regarless of skin color or race. :wink:

Dragoness's photo
Wed 03/28/12 04:47 PM
The link is no good.

Crackers as in as white as crackers is actually a funny slur to me...lol

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Wed 03/28/12 04:49 PM


I think being proud of ones skin color and heritage is stupid! Its not something you have any control over so it is not something to be proud of as it is not an accomplishment.

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Wed 03/28/12 05:12 PM
I wonder if Black people know that when you call a white person a "Cracker" it actually insults themselves? The term "Cracker" comes from the old days when white people owned slaves and would "Crack" the whip to get them to work. So by calling me a Cracker you are assuming I'm your slavemaster!

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Wed 03/28/12 07:07 PM
so, i take it this wasn't a hate crime?

Dragoness's photo
Wed 03/28/12 07:17 PM
No Mo, not from the information here and the link is invalid,

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/28/12 07:18 PM

Double murderer: Teenager guilty of killing two lost Brits who strayed into 'wrong' area on holiday

Brits James Kouzaris and James Cooper were gunned down after they drunkenly walked into a public housing estate in Sarasota

An American teenager was found guilty tonight of shooting dead two British friends on holiday in Florida.

Shawn Tyson, 17, murdered the James Cooper, 24, and James Kouzaris, 25, who were drunk and lost in a rundown housing estate in Sarasota, Florida.

Tennis coach Mr Kouzaris, from Northampton, and town planner Mr Cooper, from Hampton Lucy near Warwick, walked into The Court in the early hours of 16 April last year.

They were confronted by Tyson, who tried to rob them, then when they had no money, told them: “Well since you ain’t got no money, I got something for your ***.”

The men pleaded to go home, saying they were drunk, but the teenager, then 16, shot first one of them, then the other.

When they were found, both still had their wallets and cash.

Tyson boasted to friend Latrece Washington that one of the victims was “crying for his life”, and he had shot him and “emptied the clip on him”.

Jermaine Bane said a series of calls were made around the time of the shots and in one, heard Tyson mention two “crackers”, or white men, walking in the area.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/florida-shootings-shawn-tyson-convicted-773305



senseless violence in which there was a conviction to give the deceased some justice,,,,


I also dont know who Jermaine Bane is


or, if there actually is a tape of a call prior to the event in which the caller referred to them as 'white', than it was an injustice not to prosecute for a hate crime

unless no such tape exists and they were prosected AND CONVICTED,, justly, for murder,,,,

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Wed 03/28/12 07:21 PM

Well, where are all the complaints that they are racists?

You know what I think is racist? When an African American posts he or she is proud to be black. If I posted I were proud to be white, I'd be called a racist or white-supremist. We can't help what color our skin is. I'd rather be saying I am proud to be a Christian or a good mother or anti-violent or anti-racist!! Racism comes in all shades and...races. Sad, sad shame that people are still so against each other over color and race. I like to detest people on an individual basis, regarless of skin color or race. :wink:



I also think that is racist. I think there are different levels of racist and that 90 percent of americans are at one of those levels.

I think its not so BLATANTLY racist though as other levels of racism to be proud of the accomplishments of those who come directly from you or before you. As long as one does not feel that that particular group is therefore BETTER Than other groups. Its one thing to be proud, its another to feel superior.

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Wed 03/28/12 07:21 PM

I wonder if Black people know that when you call a white person a "Cracker" it actually insults themselves? The term "Cracker" comes from the old days when white people owned slaves and would "Crack" the whip to get them to work. So by calling me a Cracker you are assuming I'm your slavemaster!



I know it and I agree.

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Wed 03/28/12 07:27 PM


Well, where are all the complaints that they are racists?

You know what I think is racist? When an African American posts he or she is proud to be black. If I posted I were proud to be white, I'd be called a racist or white-supremist. We can't help what color our skin is. I'd rather be saying I am proud to be a Christian or a good mother or anti-violent or anti-racist!! Racism comes in all shades and...races. Sad, sad shame that people are still so against each other over color and race. I like to detest people on an individual basis, regarless of skin color or race. :wink:



I also think that is racist. I think there are different levels of racist and that 90 percent of americans are at one of those levels.

I think its not so BLATANTLY racist though as other levels of racism to be proud of the accomplishments of those who come directly from you or before you. As long as one does not feel that that particular group is therefore BETTER Than other groups. Its one thing to be proud, its another to feel superior.


I disagree. When I think racism I think hatred for another race. In this day in age I find it hard to believe that is prominent. I would have to say people confuse being prejudice to being racist. Prejudice is having a certain judgement toward a person because of religion, sexulal orientation, race, etc.

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Wed 03/28/12 07:35 PM
It is important for oppressed people to conceptualize they are just as worthy and just as important as their oppressors so if they can accomplish that by being proud of what caused them to be victimized in the first place, I see no issue with it.

But I do agree with Mo, being born into whatever skin you are born into is really not an accomplishment of any kind.

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Wed 03/28/12 07:40 PM



Well, where are all the complaints that they are racists?

You know what I think is racist? When an African American posts he or she is proud to be black. If I posted I were proud to be white, I'd be called a racist or white-supremist. We can't help what color our skin is. I'd rather be saying I am proud to be a Christian or a good mother or anti-violent or anti-racist!! Racism comes in all shades and...races. Sad, sad shame that people are still so against each other over color and race. I like to detest people on an individual basis, regarless of skin color or race. :wink:



I also think that is racist. I think there are different levels of racist and that 90 percent of americans are at one of those levels.

I think its not so BLATANTLY racist though as other levels of racism to be proud of the accomplishments of those who come directly from you or before you. As long as one does not feel that that particular group is therefore BETTER Than other groups. Its one thing to be proud, its another to feel superior.


I disagree. When I think racism I think hatred for another race. In this day in age I find it hard to believe that is prominent. I would have to say people confuse being prejudice to being racist. Prejudice is having a certain judgement toward a person because of religion, sexulal orientation, race, etc.



when I think 'racism' in the simplest of explanations

I break down the word

Race c : a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits


ism: distinctive doctrine, cause, or theory


I think environment and media impression upon us from a young age certain 'stereotypes' which causes us to believe certain traits within certain groups

I think ninety percent of americans certainly have some 'custom made' ideas about certain races and groups, even if they are subconsciously applied,,,,,

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Wed 03/28/12 09:40 PM




Well, where are all the complaints that they are racists?

You know what I think is racist? When an African American posts he or she is proud to be black. If I posted I were proud to be white, I'd be called a racist or white-supremist. We can't help what color our skin is. I'd rather be saying I am proud to be a Christian or a good mother or anti-violent or anti-racist!! Racism comes in all shades and...races. Sad, sad shame that people are still so against each other over color and race. I like to detest people on an individual basis, regarless of skin color or race. :wink:



I also think that is racist. I think there are different levels of racist and that 90 percent of americans are at one of those levels.

I think its not so BLATANTLY racist though as other levels of racism to be proud of the accomplishments of those who come directly from you or before you. As long as one does not feel that that particular group is therefore BETTER Than other groups. Its one thing to be proud, its another to feel superior.


I disagree. When I think racism I think hatred for another race. In this day in age I find it hard to believe that is prominent. I would have to say people confuse being prejudice to being racist. Prejudice is having a certain judgement toward a person because of religion, sexulal orientation, race, etc.



when I think 'racism' in the simplest of explanations

I break down the word

Race c : a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits


ism: distinctive doctrine, cause, or theory


I think environment and media impression upon us from a young age certain 'stereotypes' which causes us to believe certain traits within certain groups

I think ninety percent of americans certainly have some 'custom made' ideas about certain races and groups, even if they are subconsciously applied,,,,,

Stereotyping and racism are 2 different things. Racism is thinking one is superior or inferior because of race. For example saying black people have rhythm is a stereotype but it is not racism. It can be classified as ignorance but if there is no superiority or inferiority then there is no racism.


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Thu 03/29/12 01:09 AM
Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors.

Racism claims that the content of a man’s mind (not his cognitive apparatus, but its content) is inherited; that a man’s convictions, values and character are determined before he is born, by physical factors beyond his control. This is the caveman’s version of the doctrine of innate ideas—or of inherited knowledge—which has been thoroughly refuted by philosophy and science. Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes. It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of animals, but not between animals and men.

Like every form of determinism, racism invalidates the specific attribute which distinguishes man from all other living species: his rational faculty. Racism negates two aspects of man’s life: reason and choice, or mind and morality, replacing them with chemical predestination.



A genius is a genius, regardless of the number of morons who belong to the same race—and a moron is a moron, regardless of the number of geniuses who share his racial origin.


Like every other form of collectivism, racism is a quest for the unearned. It is a quest for automatic knowledge—for an automatic evaluation of men’s characters that bypasses the responsibility of exercising rational or moral judgment—and, above all, a quest for an automatic self-esteem (or pseudo-self-esteem).


Today, racism is regarded as a crime if practiced by a majority—but as an inalienable right if practiced by a minority. The notion that one’s culture is superior to all others solely because it represents the traditions of one’s ancestors, is regarded as chauvinism if claimed by a majority—but as “ethnic” pride if claimed by a minority. Resistance to change and progress is regarded as reactionary if demonstrated by a majority—but retrogression to a Balkan village, to an Indian tepee or to the jungle is hailed if demonstrated by a minority.

http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/racism.html

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Thu 03/29/12 01:46 AM





Well, where are all the complaints that they are racists?

You know what I think is racist? When an African American posts he or she is proud to be black. If I posted I were proud to be white, I'd be called a racist or white-supremist. We can't help what color our skin is. I'd rather be saying I am proud to be a Christian or a good mother or anti-violent or anti-racist!! Racism comes in all shades and...races. Sad, sad shame that people are still so against each other over color and race. I like to detest people on an individual basis, regarless of skin color or race. :wink:



I also think that is racist. I think there are different levels of racist and that 90 percent of americans are at one of those levels.

I think its not so BLATANTLY racist though as other levels of racism to be proud of the accomplishments of those who come directly from you or before you. As long as one does not feel that that particular group is therefore BETTER Than other groups. Its one thing to be proud, its another to feel superior.


I disagree. When I think racism I think hatred for another race. In this day in age I find it hard to believe that is prominent. I would have to say people confuse being prejudice to being racist. Prejudice is having a certain judgement toward a person because of religion, sexulal orientation, race, etc.



when I think 'racism' in the simplest of explanations

I break down the word

Race c : a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits


ism: distinctive doctrine, cause, or theory


I think environment and media impression upon us from a young age certain 'stereotypes' which causes us to believe certain traits within certain groups

I think ninety percent of americans certainly have some 'custom made' ideas about certain races and groups, even if they are subconsciously applied,,,,,

Stereotyping and racism are 2 different things. Racism is thinking one is superior or inferior because of race. For example saying black people have rhythm is a stereotype but it is not racism. It can be classified as ignorance but if there is no superiority or inferiority then there is no racism.




well, people certainly have their own 'opinions' of what racism means to them.

But , technically, breaking down the root and suffix of the word racism , there is no inference of 'superiority'

that is something added by modern standards so fewer people feel racist,,lol



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Thu 03/29/12 04:33 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Thu 03/29/12 05:06 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/florida-shootings-shawn-tyson-convicted-773305


This link works..


I posted this story because of the parallels between the cases..

The Zimmerman/Martin narrative being pushed by the left wing media is that Martin was killed because he was black and in a "gated", which is a code word for a white community..

These Brits were killed for being white in a "public", which is a code word for a black community..


Early on in this media circus I posted a story about a 6 yo girl being shot and killed during a drive by shooting in Chicago..

Because the shooters weren't white the story got zero national coverage. The weekend that the girl was shot ended with 10 people murdered and 39 wounded in Chicago..

I will post the link again..

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/19/10758488-chicago-bloodbath-6-year-old-among-those-killed


It seems that the media and the race hustlers turn a blind eye to murder in general especially when they can't sensationalize the story to create a mob scene and get their faces on the TV..

It rather pathetic and quite disgusting...

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Thu 03/29/12 09:10 AM
From some of what I have read, the two little Brits deserved what they got cuz they oppressed that negro murderer.

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Thu 03/29/12 10:10 AM

The link is no good.

Crackers as in as white as crackers is actually a funny slur to me...lol

Pot calling the kettle black?
M2's own resident expert on racism finds a racial slur funny go figure.

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Thu 03/29/12 11:06 AM

Well, where are all the complaints that they are racists?

You know what I think is racist? When an African American posts he or she is proud to be black. If I posted I were proud to be white, I'd be called a racist or white-supremist. We can't help what color our skin is. I'd rather be saying I am proud to be a Christian or a good mother or anti-violent or anti-racist!! Racism comes in all shades and...races. Sad, sad shame that people are still so against each other over color and race. I like to detest people on an individual basis, regarless of skin color or race. :wink:


Does it just bother you when black people are proud to be black? What about any other ethnicity?

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