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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe - part 3
MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Thu 03/29/12 10:04 PM Edited by MorningSong on Thu 03/29/12 10:34 PM
one God. One supreme being above us all... Yes..there is ONE GOD..ONE SUPREME BEING over us all. And God The Father, God The Son,and God The Holy Spirit are the 3 Separate PERSONS WITHIN that ONE SUPREME BEING . . And NO Cowboy...we are NOT gods. We were ONLY given DOMINION over the beasts of the field...we were not to RULE over the beasts of the field....or JUDGE the beasts of the field (which is what a magistrate or judge does)....

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 06:04 AM
one God. One supreme being above us all... Yes..there is ONE GOD..ONE SUPREME BEING over us all. And God The Father, God The Son,and God The Holy Spirit are the 3 Separate PERSONS WITHIN that ONE SUPREME BEING . . And NO Cowboy...we are NOT gods. We were ONLY given DOMINION over the beasts of the field...we were not to RULE over the beasts of the field....or JUDGE the beasts of the field (which is what a magistrate or judge does).... And NO Cowboy...we are NOT gods. We were ONLY given DOMINION over the beasts of the field...we were not to RULE over the beasts of the field....or JUDGE the beasts of the field (which is what a magistrate or judge does).... The "ruling" and "judging" has absolutely nothing in specifics with what the word "god" means. "god" plainly means to have "authority" over another. Having dominion over something is the same thing as having authority over something.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 06:14 AM
one God. One supreme being above us all... Yes..there is ONE GOD..ONE SUPREME BEING over us all. And God The Father, God The Son,and God The Holy Spirit are the 3 Separate PERSONS WITHIN that ONE SUPREME BEING . . And NO Cowboy...we are NOT gods. We were ONLY given DOMINION over the beasts of the field...we were not to RULE over the beasts of the field....or JUDGE the beasts of the field (which is what a magistrate or judge does).... And NO Cowboy...we are NOT gods. We were ONLY given DOMINION over the beasts of the field...we were not to RULE over the beasts of the field....or JUDGE the beasts of the field (which is what a magistrate or judge does).... The "ruling" and "judging" has absolutely nothing in specifics with what the word "god" means. "god" plainly means to have "authority" over another. Having dominion over something is the same thing as having authority over something. Dominion - the power or right of governing and controlling; sovereign authority. Authority - The power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience: "he had absolute authority over his subordinates". So now that we have established having dominion over something is the same as having authority over something, lets go deeper. God - a person or thing of supreme value a powerful ruler Now lets look at the verse Genesis 1:28 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 03/30/12 06:52 AM Edited by funches on Fri 03/30/12 06:52 AM
"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way. Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation. Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following. dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place. So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get. Cowboy... it that is true then let's use your last name "Hale" as an example "HALE" according to you means "dweller at", "near the corner", "nook" "small hallow" "secret place" .... couldn't all the above apply to the profession of Prostitution? therefore the name "HALE" refers to a Prostitute or a family or race of Prostitutes if this is not so....then perhaps you shouldn't try to do the same with the name "Adam" ...

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 06:53 AM
"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way. Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation. Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following. dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place. So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get. Cowboy... it that is true then let's use your last name "Hale" as an example "HALE" according to you means "dweller at", "near the corner", "nook" "small hallow" "secret place" .... couldn't all the above apply to the profession of Prostitution? therefore the name "HALE" refers to a Prostitute or a family or race of Prostitutes if this is not so....then perhaps you shouldn't try to do the same with the name "Adam" ... How you go "Prostitution" out of this is beyond me.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 06:58 AM
"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way. Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation. Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following. dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place. So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get. Cowboy... it that is true then let's use your last name "Hale" as an example "HALE" according to you means "dweller at", "near the corner", "nook" "small hallow" "secret place" .... couldn't all the above apply to the profession of Prostitution? therefore the name "HALE" refers to a Prostitute or a family or race of Prostitutes if this is not so....then perhaps you shouldn't try to do the same with the name "Adam" ... How you go "Prostitution" out of this is beyond me. And besides that, in our civilization now, names aren't given because of the meaning of the name thereof. Names are given now to what the parents think would be nice. Once again, after time after time after time, you can not compare the way the world is now to the way it was then. Names in the past had meaning behind them, reasoning of why they were named that. And on top of that, you're comaring my last name to a first name. Which can not be done for there was no real choice in what my last name was going to be, it's the last name of my family. It's not a name that is "given". Before you state anything off the wall about Adam and a last name, Adam would have had no last name. Would be pointless. The last name or the surname is given to specify exactly whom is being referred to. At that time there was only one person with a name eg., Adam. So there couldn't be any mistakening of whom was being referred to when the name "Adam" was mentioned.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 03/30/12 06:59 AM Edited by funches on Fri 03/30/12 07:00 AM
"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way. Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation. Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following. dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place. So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get. Cowboy... it that is true then let's use your last name "Hale" as an example "HALE" according to you means "dweller at", "near the corner", "nook" "small hallow" "secret place" .... couldn't all the above apply to the profession of Prostitution? therefore the name "HALE" refers to a Prostitute or a family or race of Prostitutes if this is not so....then perhaps you shouldn't try to do the same with the name "Adam" ... How you go "Prostitution" out of this is beyond me. ok how about "Social director of fleshy desires"

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 07:02 AM
"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way. Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation. Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following. dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place. So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get. Cowboy... it that is true then let's use your last name "Hale" as an example "HALE" according to you means "dweller at", "near the corner", "nook" "small hallow" "secret place" .... couldn't all the above apply to the profession of Prostitution? therefore the name "HALE" refers to a Prostitute or a family or race of Prostitutes if this is not so....then perhaps you shouldn't try to do the same with the name "Adam" ... How you go "Prostitution" out of this is beyond me. you mean that you haven't the money? Sorry typo I hadn't seen before.. makes mental note to make sure he rereads his comments before posting "How you GET Prostitution out of this is beyond me". And what does money have to do with anything of the topic we're discussing?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 03/30/12 07:05 AM
"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way. Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation. Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following. dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place. So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get. Cowboy... it that is true then let's use your last name "Hale" as an example "HALE" according to you means "dweller at", "near the corner", "nook" "small hallow" "secret place" .... couldn't all the above apply to the profession of Prostitution? therefore the name "HALE" refers to a Prostitute or a family or race of Prostitutes if this is not so....then perhaps you shouldn't try to do the same with the name "Adam" ... How you go "Prostitution" out of this is beyond me. you mean that you haven't the money? Sorry typo I hadn't seen before.. makes mental note to make sure he rereads his comments before posting "How you GET Prostitution out of this is beyond me". And what does money have to do with anything of the topic we're discussing? as I said all that which you claim that you name "HALE" meant refers to the profession of Prostitution ....

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 07:07 AM
"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way. Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation. Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following. dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place. So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get. Cowboy... it that is true then let's use your last name "Hale" as an example "HALE" according to you means "dweller at", "near the corner", "nook" "small hallow" "secret place" .... couldn't all the above apply to the profession of Prostitution? therefore the name "HALE" refers to a Prostitute or a family or race of Prostitutes if this is not so....then perhaps you shouldn't try to do the same with the name "Adam" ... How you go "Prostitution" out of this is beyond me. you mean that you haven't the money? Sorry typo I hadn't seen before.. makes mental note to make sure he rereads his comments before posting "How you GET Prostitution out of this is beyond me". And what does money have to do with anything of the topic we're discussing? as I said all that which you claim that you name "HALE" meant refers to the profession of Prostitution .... "dweller at", "near the corner", "nook" "small hallow" "secret place" .... How you get prostituion out of that is beyond me lol. I'm done here with this nonesence you speak Funches.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 03/30/12 07:14 AM
How you get prostituion out of that is beyond me lol. I'm done here with this nonesence you speak Funches. so we have to deal with your dribble about the name "Adam" but you close your eyes to what your last name refers to HALE according to Cowboy means: "dweller at", "near the corner", "nook" "small hallow" "secret place" .... Cowboy...your last name clearly refers to the noted activites of Prostitutes .....

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Fri 03/30/12 09:34 AM Edited by MorningSong on Fri 03/30/12 10:06 AM
Cowboy wrote: one God. One supreme being above us all... Cowboy..in Your statement quoted above that you made last night....... are you NOW saying that NOW FINALLY UNDERSTAND what the bible teaches? In other words..... Are you saying you FINALLY understand what the Bible teaches.....that God The Father ,God Son ,and God The Holy Spirit are ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING ? Yes or No OR.... are you STILL saying what you said before......that you believe JESUS ONLY is The One Supreme being over us.... cause IF the LATTER is what you are REALLY still saying , then you are into IDOL WORSHIP ,IF you are STILL saying as before ,that Jesus Is an ENTIRELY SEPARATE SUPREME BEING,COMPLETELY APART FROM GOD THE FATHER . AND THEN THAT WOULD BE LIKE SAYING GOD IS 2 SUPREME BEINGS, INSTEAD OF JUST ONE AS THE BIBLE TEACHES. ALSO...BY BELIEVING JESUS IS ANOTHER SEPARATE SUPREME BEING COMPLETELY APART FROM GOD THE FATHER, IS CALLED WORSHIPPING ANOTHER JESUS !!! A FALSE JESUS WHOM YOU BELIEVE TO BE A SEPARATE SUPREME BEING FROM GOD THE FATHER !! SO WHICH IS IT YOU BELiEVE NOW,COWBOY? Also...you stated earlier that you were not a human being but ,instead you believe we are gods... Do you think we are NOT human beings AT ALL?? Yes No Do you think we are LITERALLY gods? Yes No

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Fri 03/30/12 09:41 AM Edited by MorningSong on Fri 03/30/12 09:51 AM
Cowboy, there is a teaching that says we are gods..but it is ONLY SATANIC worship that teaches this, NOT christianity. If you google any info on any christian teaching saying we are gods, you wiLl find NONE!!! Cause the bible does NOT teach this AT ALL. Christianity does NOT teach this ...PERIOD!!! This is ONLY satan worship that teaches that we are gods. And the 2 scriptures in the bible saying, "ye are gods",was ADDRESSED TO A SPECIFIC GROUP OF PEOPLE ONLY !!!! This has been explained to you numerous times already , and has been clearly shown to you!!! WHEN PROPERLY STUDIED ,the scriptures CLEARLY shows we are NOT gods.

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Fri 03/30/12 10:13 AM Edited by MorningSong on Fri 03/30/12 10:14 AM
Cowboy, what Funches is trying to show you is that ADAM means HUMAN ...or MAN....NOT A GOD!!!! Meaning..GOD created ADAM to be a HUMAN BEING, NOT a god !!! ADAM MEANS HUMAN.......OR MAN !!! Meaning.....we are NOT gods !!!!!

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 10:37 AM
Cowboy wrote: one God. One supreme being above us all... Cowboy..in Your statement quoted above that you made last night....... are you NOW saying that NOW FINALLY UNDERSTAND what the bible teaches? In other words..... Are you saying you FINALLY understand what the Bible teaches.....that God The Father ,God Son ,and God The Holy Spirit are ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING ? Yes or No OR.... are you STILL saying what you said before......that you believe JESUS ONLY is The One Supreme being over us.... cause IF the LATTER is what you are REALLY still saying , then you are into IDOL WORSHIP ,IF you are STILL saying as before ,that Jesus Is an ENTIRELY SEPARATE SUPREME BEING,COMPLETELY APART FROM GOD THE FATHER . AND THEN THAT WOULD BE LIKE SAYING GOD IS 2 SUPREME BEINGS, INSTEAD OF JUST ONE AS THE BIBLE TEACHES. ALSO...BY BELIEVING JESUS IS ANOTHER SEPARATE SUPREME BEING COMPLETELY APART FROM GOD THE FATHER, IS CALLED WORSHIPPING ANOTHER JESUS !!! A FALSE JESUS WHOM YOU BELIEVE TO BE A SEPARATE SUPREME BEING FROM GOD THE FATHER !! SO WHICH IS IT YOU BELiEVE NOW,COWBOY? Also...you stated earlier that you were not a human being but ,instead you believe we are gods... Do you think we are NOT human beings AT ALL?? Yes No Do you think we are LITERALLY gods? Yes No are you STILL saying what you said before......that you believe JESUS ONLY is The One Supreme being over us.... Sorta yes to this sorta no. Jesus is our supreme being to US, not over EVERYTHING. His father is God over everything, including us as well. But again in a sense it's like a chain command. Goes God the father, then Jesus the son, then us of course. cause IF the LATTER is what you are REALLY still saying , then you are into IDOL WORSHIP ,IF you are STILL saying as before ,that Jesus Is an ENTIRELY SEPARATE SUPREME BEING,COMPLETELY APART FROM GOD THE FATHER If Jesus and his father we one exact being, how could then Jesus be the path to God? John 14:6 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Do you think we are NOT human beings AT ALL?? Psalm 82:7 7But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. You will die LIKE men. Would be irrelevant to say this unless we were something else or could die like something else. Do you think we are LITERALLY gods? Again the WORD "god" means authority. Thus why we call God, God. And is why and how Jesus is OUR "God". And speaks of God being the god of gods and the lord of lords. Deuteronomy 10:17 17For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 10:41 AM
Cowboy, there is a teaching that says we are gods..but it is ONLY SATANIC worship that teaches this, NOT christianity. If you google any info on any christian teaching saying we are gods, you wiLl find NONE!!! Cause the bible does NOT teach this AT ALL. Christianity does NOT teach this ...PERIOD!!! This is ONLY satan worship that teaches that we are gods. And the 2 scriptures in the bible saying, "ye are gods",was ADDRESSED TO A SPECIFIC GROUP OF PEOPLE ONLY !!!! This has been explained to you numerous times already , and has been clearly shown to you!!! WHEN PROPERLY STUDIED ,the scriptures CLEARLY shows we are NOT gods. Even if it was being said to a specific group of people, why would they be special? The same reasoning they were referred to as "gods" would be the same reason we would be referred to as "gods". And again, before you start thinking this, but NOOOOOOO means am I saying we are or could be as great or greater then God the father.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 10:49 AM
Cowboy, there is a teaching that says we are gods..but it is ONLY SATANIC worship that teaches this, NOT christianity. If you google any info on any christian teaching saying we are gods, you wiLl find NONE!!! Cause the bible does NOT teach this AT ALL. Christianity does NOT teach this ...PERIOD!!! This is ONLY satan worship that teaches that we are gods. And the 2 scriptures in the bible saying, "ye are gods",was ADDRESSED TO A SPECIFIC GROUP OF PEOPLE ONLY !!!! This has been explained to you numerous times already , and has been clearly shown to you!!! WHEN PROPERLY STUDIED ,the scriptures CLEARLY shows we are NOT gods. Even if it was being said to a specific group of people, why would they be special? The same reasoning they were referred to as "gods" would be the same reason we would be referred to as "gods". And again, before you start thinking this, but NOOOOOOO means am I saying we are or could be as great or greater then God the father. Exodus 20:3 3Thou shalt have no other gods before me. So how could this statement be true if we are not "gods"? There is only one God, yes. Because again "god" means authority. There is but one authority over us. So what this verse is saying is no one else has authority over us but Jesus Christ himself. For he is the one that said these words if you look up further in this chapter you will find the following. 2I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Also notice again the way this is said. I am THY/YOUR God. And is said by Jesus Christ eg., "I am the LORD..."

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Fri 03/30/12 11:05 AM Edited by MorningSong on Fri 03/30/12 11:26 AM
Cowboy.... I see you still believe Jesus is an ENTIRELY SEPARATE Supreme Being from The Father ( whom you believe to be ANOTHER supreme being ). This is FALSE..and is IDOL worship..but I can't help you see because yOu will NOT listen . No matter how much I want to help you see,I realize that ONLY GOD can show you that God the Father,God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit make up ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING ONLY. THE ONE GOD ALMIGHTY IS ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING!!!! You will continue to be in my prayers, Cowboy...but I just see no point in trying to help you any further.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 11:33 AM
Cowboy.... I see you still believe Jesus is an ENTIRELY SEPARATE Supreme Being from The Father ( whom you believe to be ANOTHER supreme being ). This is FALSE..and is IDOL worship..but I can't help you see because yOu will NOT listen . No matter how much I want to help you see,I realize that ONLY GOD can show you that God the Father,God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit make up ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING ONLY. THE ONE GOD ALMIGHTY IS ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING!!!! You will continue to be in my prayers, Cowboy...but I just see no point in trying to help you any further. John 14:6 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Jesus said no one comes to the FATHER but by him. Doesn't say no one can come to me unless I allow them, doesn't say no one can come to Heaven but by me. Says to the FATHER but by HIM, by JESUS. So again, how can they be one supreme BEING? Yes they are one God eg., Jesus said "The Father and I are one".

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Fri 03/30/12 11:52 AM
There are 3 distinquishable distinctions (Father, Son,Holy Spirit ) WITHIN ONE SUPREME BEING...that's how.