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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe - part 3
CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 11:54 AM
There are 3 distinquishable distinctions (Father, Son,Holy Spirit ) WITHIN ONE SUPREME BEING...that's how. If Jesus and his Father were one "being" he would not have specifically said the path to "his father". He would have said the path to "god" if applied the way you are applying the word. And it wouldn't place "Jesus" as our judge again if Jesus and the Father were one being. There would be no need for the different titles or "names".

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 03/30/12 11:58 AM
There are 3 distinquishable distinctions (Father, Son,Holy Spirit ) WITHIN ONE SUPREME BEING...that's how. If Jesus and his Father were one "being" he would not have specifically said the path to "his father". He would have said the path to "god" if applied the way you are applying the word. And it wouldn't place "Jesus" as our judge again if Jesus and the Father were one being. There would be no need for the different titles or "names". wow Cowboy...so are you claiming that Jesus and The Father isn't one?

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Fri 03/30/12 11:59 AM Edited by MorningSong on Fri 03/30/12 12:02 PM
Study the many characreristics of God, Cowboy. That should help make it clear How God The Father,God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING ONLY. Take care now.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 12:00 PM
There are 3 distinquishable distinctions (Father, Son,Holy Spirit ) WITHIN ONE SUPREME BEING...that's how. If Jesus and his Father were one "being" he would not have specifically said the path to "his father". He would have said the path to "god" if applied the way you are applying the word. And it wouldn't place "Jesus" as our judge again if Jesus and the Father were one being. There would be no need for the different titles or "names". wow Cowboy...so are you claiming that Jesus and The Father isn't one? Never said that. Are those words in there? No. They are one God. But that doesn't mean they are one "being". For again while Jesus was on the cross God said "This is my SON in whom I'm well pleased". And Jesus is the way, the truth to the FATHER. No to himself, not to Heaven, in specifics. But specifically to the father. John 14:6 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 03/30/12 12:06 PM
There are 3 distinquishable distinctions (Father, Son,Holy Spirit ) WITHIN ONE SUPREME BEING...that's how. If Jesus and his Father were one "being" he would not have specifically said the path to "his father". He would have said the path to "god" if applied the way you are applying the word. And it wouldn't place "Jesus" as our judge again if Jesus and the Father were one being. There would be no need for the different titles or "names". wow Cowboy...so are you claiming that Jesus and The Father isn't one? Never said that. Are those words in there? No. They are one God. But that doesn't mean they are one "being". For again while Jesus was on the cross God said "This is my SON in whom I'm well pleased". And Jesus is the way, the truth to the FATHER. No to himself, not to Heaven, in specifics. But specifically to the father. John 14:6 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. so are you saying that Jesus and God are two seperate Beings...that sometimes act as "One"....like a team?

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Fri 03/30/12 12:06 PM Edited by MorningSong on Fri 03/30/12 12:55 PM
But Cowboy,you mean they are one God under a TITLE of "One God" only...NOT ONE SUPREME BEING. You beleive them to be TWO supreme Beings Under just a TITLE of God. And That is false teaching on your part. One last example...am gonna use a human being as an example here to demonstrate : One human being consists of 3 parts.....body, soul, spirit. NOW those 3 parts of a human being are NOT 3 beings..but are 3 parts in ONLY ONE human being only. Now..there are 3 distinquishable distinctions we call Persons (God The Father, God The Son, God The Holy Spirit) WITHIN ONE SUPREME BEING. God The Father ,God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit are NOT 3 ENTIRELY DIFFERENT AND SEPARATE SUPREME BEINGS as YOU believe Cowoby...NO!!! but instead..... God The Father ,God The Son.and God The Holy Sprit are the 3 distinctions or 3 Separate Persons WITHIN WITHIN WITHIN ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING !!! GOD ALMIGHTY IS ONLY ONLY ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING ONLY !!!! THE ONE GOD IS ONE SUPREME BEING ONLY!!!!!!!!! GOD THE FATHER , GOD THE SON, AND GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT MAKE UP ONLY ONLY ONLY ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING ONLY !!!!!!!!!!! BEEN EXPLANING THIS FOR OVER A YEAR NOW!!!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Take care now.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 12:10 PM
There are 3 distinquishable distinctions (Father, Son,Holy Spirit ) WITHIN ONE SUPREME BEING...that's how. If Jesus and his Father were one "being" he would not have specifically said the path to "his father". He would have said the path to "god" if applied the way you are applying the word. And it wouldn't place "Jesus" as our judge again if Jesus and the Father were one being. There would be no need for the different titles or "names". wow Cowboy...so are you claiming that Jesus and The Father isn't one? Never said that. Are those words in there? No. They are one God. But that doesn't mean they are one "being". For again while Jesus was on the cross God said "This is my SON in whom I'm well pleased". And Jesus is the way, the truth to the FATHER. No to himself, not to Heaven, in specifics. But specifically to the father. John 14:6 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. so are you saying that Jesus and God are two seperate Beings...that sometimes act as "One"....like a team? Not sometimes, all the time. And no not like a team per say. They have their own wills thus showing two separate minds. John 5:19 19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. @MorningSong If they were one "being", how would they then have a possibility of different wills. And Jesus "SEE'S" the father do stuff.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 12:12 PM
But Cowboy,you mean they are one God under a TITLE of "One God" only...NOT ONE SUPREME BEING. You beleive them to be TWO supreme Beings Under just a TITLE of God. And That is false teaching on your part. I have to go now. No not two "supreme" beings. Yes in comparison to us they are two "supreme" beings. But there is only one "supreme" being above all else and that is the Father. There is no one more supreme then God the father nor equally supreme. Jesus NEVER made himself equal with the father.

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Fri 03/30/12 12:18 PM
I cannot help you any further. I am done here now. Goodbye.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 03/30/12 12:34 PM
There are 3 distinquishable distinctions (Father, Son,Holy Spirit ) WITHIN ONE SUPREME BEING...that's how. If Jesus and his Father were one "being" he would not have specifically said the path to "his father". He would have said the path to "god" if applied the way you are applying the word. And it wouldn't place "Jesus" as our judge again if Jesus and the Father were one being. There would be no need for the different titles or "names". wow Cowboy...so are you claiming that Jesus and The Father isn't one? Never said that. Are those words in there? No. They are one God. But that doesn't mean they are one "being". For again while Jesus was on the cross God said "This is my SON in whom I'm well pleased". And Jesus is the way, the truth to the FATHER. No to himself, not to Heaven, in specifics. But specifically to the father. John 14:6 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. so are you saying that Jesus and God are two seperate Beings...that sometimes act as "One"....like a team? Not sometimes, all the time. And no not like a team per say. They have their own wills thus showing two separate minds. no it's has to be sometimes or Jeswus wouldn't have ask God why he hath forsaken him but what I want to know...are they two seperate beings that merge or melt together to form one being

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 12:47 PM
There are 3 distinquishable distinctions (Father, Son,Holy Spirit ) WITHIN ONE SUPREME BEING...that's how. If Jesus and his Father were one "being" he would not have specifically said the path to "his father". He would have said the path to "god" if applied the way you are applying the word. And it wouldn't place "Jesus" as our judge again if Jesus and the Father were one being. There would be no need for the different titles or "names". wow Cowboy...so are you claiming that Jesus and The Father isn't one? Never said that. Are those words in there? No. They are one God. But that doesn't mean they are one "being". For again while Jesus was on the cross God said "This is my SON in whom I'm well pleased". And Jesus is the way, the truth to the FATHER. No to himself, not to Heaven, in specifics. But specifically to the father. John 14:6 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. so are you saying that Jesus and God are two seperate Beings...that sometimes act as "One"....like a team? Not sometimes, all the time. And no not like a team per say. They have their own wills thus showing two separate minds. no it's has to be sometimes or Jeswus wouldn't have ask God why he hath forsaken him but what I want to know...are they two seperate beings that merge or melt together to form one being They aren't one being. There are many times throughout the entire scripture collection it separated them. All the way back to genesis with using "God" and "LORD God".

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 12:49 PM
There are 3 distinquishable distinctions (Father, Son,Holy Spirit ) WITHIN ONE SUPREME BEING...that's how. If Jesus and his Father were one "being" he would not have specifically said the path to "his father". He would have said the path to "god" if applied the way you are applying the word. And it wouldn't place "Jesus" as our judge again if Jesus and the Father were one being. There would be no need for the different titles or "names". wow Cowboy...so are you claiming that Jesus and The Father isn't one? Never said that. Are those words in there? No. They are one God. But that doesn't mean they are one "being". For again while Jesus was on the cross God said "This is my SON in whom I'm well pleased". And Jesus is the way, the truth to the FATHER. No to himself, not to Heaven, in specifics. But specifically to the father. John 14:6 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. so are you saying that Jesus and God are two seperate Beings...that sometimes act as "One"....like a team? Not sometimes, all the time. And no not like a team per say. They have their own wills thus showing two separate minds. no it's has to be sometimes or Jeswus wouldn't have ask God why he hath forsaken him but what I want to know...are they two seperate beings that merge or melt together to form one being They aren't one being. There are many times throughout the entire scripture collection it separated them. All the way back to genesis with using "God" and "LORD God". And Jesus said those words out of anger. If you'd imagine the anger Jesus was having. And yes it is ok to "anger" by itself. Just anger and sin not.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 03/30/12 12:59 PM
There are 3 distinquishable distinctions (Father, Son,Holy Spirit ) WITHIN ONE SUPREME BEING...that's how. If Jesus and his Father were one "being" he would not have specifically said the path to "his father". He would have said the path to "god" if applied the way you are applying the word. And it wouldn't place "Jesus" as our judge again if Jesus and the Father were one being. There would be no need for the different titles or "names". wow Cowboy...so are you claiming that Jesus and The Father isn't one? Never said that. Are those words in there? No. They are one God. But that doesn't mean they are one "being". For again while Jesus was on the cross God said "This is my SON in whom I'm well pleased". And Jesus is the way, the truth to the FATHER. No to himself, not to Heaven, in specifics. But specifically to the father. John 14:6 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. so are you saying that Jesus and God are two seperate Beings...that sometimes act as "One"....like a team? Not sometimes, all the time. And no not like a team per say. They have their own wills thus showing two separate minds. no it's has to be sometimes or Jeswus wouldn't have ask God why he hath forsaken him but what I want to know...are they two seperate beings that merge or melt together to form one being They aren't one being. There are many times throughout the entire scripture collection it separated them. All the way back to genesis with using "God" and "LORD God". if they are not "One Being"....then explain why the term "God" is used in Genesis 1:1 and not "Lord God"

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 03/30/12 01:00 PM
And Jesus said those words out of anger. If you'd imagine the anger Jesus was having. And yes it is ok to "anger" by itself. Just anger and sin not. wow... Jesus was angry at God?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 01:23 PM
And Jesus said those words out of anger. If you'd imagine the anger Jesus was having. And yes it is ok to "anger" by itself. Just anger and sin not. wow... Jesus was angry at God? Not necassarily... "Angry" isn't specifically the word I'm looking for. But he was feeling alone up on the cross, he was feeling abonded up there to bare the pain that was place upon him. He was feeling forsaken.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 01:25 PM
There are 3 distinquishable distinctions (Father, Son,Holy Spirit ) WITHIN ONE SUPREME BEING...that's how. If Jesus and his Father were one "being" he would not have specifically said the path to "his father". He would have said the path to "god" if applied the way you are applying the word. And it wouldn't place "Jesus" as our judge again if Jesus and the Father were one being. There would be no need for the different titles or "names". wow Cowboy...so are you claiming that Jesus and The Father isn't one? Never said that. Are those words in there? No. They are one God. But that doesn't mean they are one "being". For again while Jesus was on the cross God said "This is my SON in whom I'm well pleased". And Jesus is the way, the truth to the FATHER. No to himself, not to Heaven, in specifics. But specifically to the father. John 14:6 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. so are you saying that Jesus and God are two seperate Beings...that sometimes act as "One"....like a team? Not sometimes, all the time. And no not like a team per say. They have their own wills thus showing two separate minds. no it's has to be sometimes or Jeswus wouldn't have ask God why he hath forsaken him but what I want to know...are they two seperate beings that merge or melt together to form one being They aren't one being. There are many times throughout the entire scripture collection it separated them. All the way back to genesis with using "God" and "LORD God". if they are not "One Being"....then explain why the term "God" is used in Genesis 1:1 and not "Lord God" God is referring to God the father. In the same way "God" is used when Jesus cried out to him Matthew 27:46 46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 03/30/12 01:45 PM
And Jesus said those words out of anger. If you'd imagine the anger Jesus was having. And yes it is ok to "anger" by itself. Just anger and sin not. wow... Jesus was angry at God? Not necassarily... "Angry" isn't specifically the word I'm looking for. But he was feeling alone up on the cross, he was feeling abonded up there to bare the pain that was place upon him. He was feeling forsaken. well you did use the word "anger" in fact you use the word anger 4 times in one post ...why do you contradict everything you post ...now do you understand why I claim there are Three Cowboys

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 01:47 PM
And Jesus said those words out of anger. If you'd imagine the anger Jesus was having. And yes it is ok to "anger" by itself. Just anger and sin not. wow... Jesus was angry at God? Not necassarily... "Angry" isn't specifically the word I'm looking for. But he was feeling alone up on the cross, he was feeling abonded up there to bare the pain that was place upon him. He was feeling forsaken. well you did use the word "anger" in fact you use the word anger 4 times in one post ...why do you contradict everything you post ...now do you understand why I claim there are Three Cowboys Dude, chill out lol. As I said "Angy isn't specifically the word I'm looking for". Couldn't think of a word to use, thus why I explained it in my second post on it.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 03/30/12 01:48 PM
God is referring to God the father. In the same way "God" is used when Jesus cried out to him no it can't be the same way as when Jesus cried out .....God is mention in Genesis 1:1 and Lord God isn't mention in Genesis 1:1 ... so Jesus and God are two seperate Beings and Jesus is Lord God ....then why isn't lord God also mention in Genesis 1:1

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 01:52 PM
God is referring to God the father. In the same way "God" is used when Jesus cried out to him no it can't be the same way as when Jesus cried out .....God is mention in Genesis 1:1 and Lord God isn't mention in Genesis 1:1 ... so Jesus and God are two seperate Beings and Jesus is Lord God ....then why isn't lord God also mention in Genesis 1:1 Because Jesus didn't do anything in Genesis 1:1. They are the same "God", thus the reasoning of the use of "god" in both "God" and "LORD God". Just "LORD" is placed there to show exactly whom did what is being referred to. And wouldn't make sense to use "Father" there, as Jesus in the flesh had not come into the picture. Therefore their was no "Father" or "Son", for again Jesus had not taken on the flesh yet. And is why again the term "God" is used in place of what would be "Father".