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Topic: Recovery from religion...
Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Fri 03/30/12 11:06 PM
amen, brutha

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 11:07 PM
I can answer that. I am opposed to same sex marriage and I have said I dont feel same sex sex is healthy or natural. Never said I was 'scared' of anyone though,, not sure where the phobia part comes in,,,lol Regular sex is not healthy either. its healthy enough to create life,,, Actually sex is quite healthy for someone physically and mentally. To much sex is unhealthy, but sex in general is healthy. But sex with the same gender is not healthy. Yeah it may be physically and mentally healthy in general, but it unhealthy for it is unproductive. Sex is for reproduction, for populating the world. This can not be done by same sex intercourse. Not causing reproduction just makes it neutral health-wise... unhealthy would imply harm to health. It is unhealthy to the sociaty in general. And on a personal level to a degree. Personal - Causing many diseases and unwanted pregnancies. Sociaty - Again diseases and adotption and or abandoned children, or more common families with a step dad or possibly step mom. Wait, is this in reference to too much sex or to same-sex/sex that doesn't result in reproduction? I realize I didn't properly specify, but all I was referring to before was for the latter mention. Both on the disease part.... would be kind of hard for unexpected children with same sex incidents lol. Disease can happen regardless of if it's opposite or same-sex though. If two people have only ever slept with one another their entire sexual life, there is no possible way for a STD to occur. If man followed God's plan, there would be no such thing as "STD"'s.

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Fri 03/30/12 11:09 PM Edited by Sloe00 on Fri 03/30/12 11:10 PM
so, if man was monogamous from the beginning of time,,,we would never have known any STDs?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 11:10 PM
so, if man was monogamous from the beginning of time,,,we would never known any STDs? Yes, and also no sexual relations with animals.

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Fri 03/30/12 11:11 PM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen.

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Fri 03/30/12 11:12 PM
so, if man was monogamous from the beginning of time,,,we would never known any STDs? Yes, and also no sexual relations with animals. christ in heaven, i forgot about bestiality!

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Fri 03/30/12 11:14 PM
god wanted to see good and evil play out, and so it does. (for, if not, he would have been happy in heaven w/his angels)

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 11:15 PM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 11:16 PM
god wanted to see good and evil play out, and so it does. (for, if not, he would have been happy in heaven w/his angels) No, why then did God create us originally in the paradise? Why wouldn't he have just started us in a world as it is now?

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Fri 03/30/12 11:21 PM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 11:28 PM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. Who's competing? It's not about who's better or greater, us or Satan. It's about obedience and obeying our Father. No competition with Satan. And God the father sacrificed nothing. Jesus sacrificed himself, he died so we would not have to.

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Fri 03/30/12 11:29 PM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. this does not strike 'god-like' to me, my brother

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 11:36 PM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. this does not strike 'god-like' to me, my brother Your post there is not exactly accurate. But why doesn't it strike you as god-like? Just courious.

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Fri 03/30/12 11:40 PM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. this does not strike 'god-like' to me, my brother Your post there is not exactly accurate. But why doesn't it strike you as god-like? Just courious. ok, what do u need clarified?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 11:42 PM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. this does not strike 'god-like' to me, my brother Your post there is not exactly accurate. But why doesn't it strike you as god-like? Just courious. ok, what do u need clarified? Why exactly it doesn't strike you as god-like. Just courious why.

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Fri 03/30/12 11:46 PM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. Who's competing? It's not about who's better or greater, us or Satan. It's about obedience and obeying our Father. No competition with Satan. And God the father sacrificed nothing. Jesus sacrificed himself, he died so we would not have to. no, no, brother, i am not TALKING ABOUT COMPETITION NOW. i say this, adam and eve, they were born innocent, right? and I say this, god let satan chill in the garden of eden to tempt them,,,which is fkkkn unfair fwor the reasons i stated (he`s how many aeons old in comparison???)

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Fri 03/30/12 11:48 PM
where did i make a mistake?

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Fri 03/30/12 11:50 PM
where did i make a mistake? Are you taking the Adam and Eve story as 100% literal?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 11:51 PM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. Who's competing? It's not about who's better or greater, us or Satan. It's about obedience and obeying our Father. No competition with Satan. And God the father sacrificed nothing. Jesus sacrificed himself, he died so we would not have to. no, no, brother, i am not TALKING ABOUT COMPETITION NOW. i say this, adam and eve, they were born innocent, right? and I say this, god let satan chill in the garden of eden to tempt them,,,which is fkkkn unfair fwor the reasons i stated (he`s how many aeons old in comparison???) No it is not unfair. We know not the exact time span between when they were first made to when they were tempted to eat of the tree. God forwarned them not to eat of the tree, so how exactly is it unfair? REGARDLESS if they comprehended what a punishment was or not, the punishment matters not. They were told not to eat of the tree, the why's, howcome's, what will happen if they do's, don't matter.

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Fri 03/30/12 11:52 PM
since religionists do so, yes