Topic: Congressmen Jones Starts Impeachment Process on Hussein Obam
msharmony's photo
Sun 03/11/12 12:53 AM


so get a degree Sin - that simple

or graduate HS if u have not done that yet

I will help u if u need help - all ya gotta do is ask


I have both, don't need your help, but do appreciate the thought.:)

I meant my friends and other people in my area.

I actually just got a call to work IT for TD Bank.



congrats!

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sun 03/11/12 12:56 AM



so get a degree Sin - that simple

or graduate HS if u have not done that yet

I will help u if u need help - all ya gotta do is ask


I have both, don't need your help, but do appreciate the thought.:)

I meant my friends and other people in my area.

I actually just got a call to work IT for TD Bank.



congrats!


Thanks. :)

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/11/12 12:56 AM






problem is, no war was declared, and article four doesnt DEFINE what a high crime or misdemeanor is,,,,,


Article 4 doesn't..

But Congress has.

And to sum it up, the best way possible.

Rewind. 1970. A then Congressman, Gerald Ford said:

"..an impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history."

This comment was in regards to the "unconfirmed" analysis of what constituted a "high crime and misdemeanor".

Somewhat relevant to his case. Andrew Johnson's impeachment.

Further note.

During Nixon's impeachment, let it be known that they did NOT cite him for tax evasion. Why? Because as they put it..

"This committee does not believe that is an impeachable offense."


well, I guess they will stop at nothing'

its still just as futile as the attempt to 'prove' he isnt american born or christian

I doubt most americans will support it, and Im twice as doubtful the Senate would get a two third majority needed to 'convict'

I also doubt whatever 'offense' they come up with would have a legal precedent as a high crime when committed by any other president in history


,,,,but whatever floats their desperate little boats,,


for there to be so much HATRED of this President that they go to such EXTREMES,,,,history continues to be written and its amazing to be a part of it

OBAMA 2012!


Oh I think a lot of people would see him impeached and I doubt he has much chance in 2012

for that reason I think the impeachment is a waste - he'll be gone in Nov anyway

the economy, gas prices, jobless and UNDERemployment rates, and questions about his naturalization all will hurt him - not to mention the bail outs and mandatory health insurance which is tyranny - this is the short list Harmony

sorry luv ya & I know how much u like Mr Obama

but I will agree, that as military commander & chief and President he deserves to be discussed with respect. And as military commander in chief (where I NEVER would have put him - no experience) his decisions are just that - he's allowed. that is wht it is so important to have someone in the office who can make those decisions



or someone smart enough to surround themself with those who have the experience to aide him in those decisions

luv you too, and think your short list is mostly propoganda
the naturalization issue is a non issue that isnt and will never be proven without also implying a whole state GOVERNMENT is in a conspiracy

gas prices, that a president has not as much to do with as GLOBAL oil trends do

the 'bailouts' can and have been argued to have stopped things from getting WORSE than they were at the beginning of 2009

the mandatory health insurance will continue to be debated by some as tyrannical and by others as within government authority to control inter state commerce, just as all other western governments do


jobs are picking back up as are employment rates, the economy will follow,,, not as QUICKLY as some were expecting or demanding, but it will happen just the same in part (in my opinion) because of actions taken under this administration


that and the continued polls which show OBAMA pummelling all other republican candidates

,, and I think not everyone is as sure that he will not get reelected

hence, the desperate measures to 'impeach'

,,,


Who cares if he surrounds himself with those people, he doesn't listen to them. He is on to much of a power trip and has to much of an ego to listen to him. That's why the top military leaders do not like or respect him.

Hell, even on the Bin Laden raid, not ONE of his advisors agreed with the Seal Team part of the raid and he didn't listen to ANY of them. That's just one example.

No matter what anyone says about Obama you will sit here and be a cheerleader for him and it's really sad.



No matter how legitimate a rebuttal I provide against accusations and insults against him, some will sit here and continue to call him names and repeat lies

and thats sad

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/11/12 12:57 AM




so get a degree Sin - that simple

or graduate HS if u have not done that yet

I will help u if u need help - all ya gotta do is ask


I have both, don't need your help, but do appreciate the thought.:)

I meant my friends and other people in my area.

I actually just got a call to work IT for TD Bank.



congrats!


Thanks. :)


yw, I have been seeking full time position for nearly three years,, I know it gets rough...

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sun 03/11/12 01:04 AM





so get a degree Sin - that simple

or graduate HS if u have not done that yet

I will help u if u need help - all ya gotta do is ask


I have both, don't need your help, but do appreciate the thought.:)

I meant my friends and other people in my area.

I actually just got a call to work IT for TD Bank.




congrats!


Thanks. :)


yw, I have been seeking full time position for nearly three years,, I know it gets rough...


Actually got really lucky.

The Lehigh Valley was just celebrating it's, eh, whatever year anniversary. At it, I met the Store Manager of TD Bank.

I teased about how chitty it is to try and find a job..
..he gave me his card.

I called, got an interview Wednesday. :O

Sometimes making fun of a politician in front of a politician pays off. -.-

Andre Reed was there too.
..and the gay guy from Dancing with the Stars.. Carson something or other? xD

..interesting event, let me tell you. -.-

I didn't really want to go, but I volunteer with the Foundation, so, kind of had to make my cameo appearance.

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/11/12 01:06 AM






so get a degree Sin - that simple

or graduate HS if u have not done that yet

I will help u if u need help - all ya gotta do is ask


I have both, don't need your help, but do appreciate the thought.:)

I meant my friends and other people in my area.

I actually just got a call to work IT for TD Bank.




congrats!


Thanks. :)


yw, I have been seeking full time position for nearly three years,, I know it gets rough...


Actually got really lucky.

The Lehigh Valley was just celebrating it's, eh, whatever year anniversary. At it, I met the Store Manager of TD Bank.

I teased about how chitty it is to try and find a job..
..he gave me his card.

I called, got an interview Wednesday. :O

Sometimes making fun of a politician in front of a politician pays off. -.-

Andre Reed was there too.
..and the gay guy from Dancing with the Stars.. Carson something or other? xD

..interesting event, let me tell you. -.-

I didn't really want to go, but I volunteer with the Foundation, so, kind of had to make my cameo appearance.



wait, theres only one gay guy on dancing with the stars?....lol


Seakolony's photo
Sun 03/11/12 06:02 AM

Expresses the sense of the Congress that the President did not comply with the War Powers Act when he ordered the April 14, 1986, attack on Libya. Urges the President to comply with such Act in the future.


war powers act is not about 'blatant disregard'

it is about consulting with congress before ordering military action

which Reagan did not do when HE ordered air strikes over Libya either,,,

he met with 'members' of congress,, as did OBama

but he never got 'congressional approval' in the formal sense of the ambiguous term


It still must not be the exact same scenario........or they wouldn't be going as far as they are with it

RKISIT's photo
Sun 03/11/12 07:06 AM


Expresses the sense of the Congress that the President did not comply with the War Powers Act when he ordered the April 14, 1986, attack on Libya. Urges the President to comply with such Act in the future.


war powers act is not about 'blatant disregard'

it is about consulting with congress before ordering military action

which Reagan did not do when HE ordered air strikes over Libya either,,,

he met with 'members' of congress,, as did OBama

but he never got 'congressional approval' in the formal sense of the ambiguous term


It still must not be the exact same scenario........or they wouldn't be going as far as they are with it
Nope what Reagan did was against the rules.The media just made it out to be a dog and pony show for the Americans.What was kept secret for awhile was selling weapons to Iran for hostages even though there was a strict embargo.Reagan was no saint and never faced any legal actions Oliver North took one for the team.

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/11/12 10:26 AM


Expresses the sense of the Congress that the President did not comply with the War Powers Act when he ordered the April 14, 1986, attack on Libya. Urges the President to comply with such Act in the future.


war powers act is not about 'blatant disregard'

it is about consulting with congress before ordering military action

which Reagan did not do when HE ordered air strikes over Libya either,,,

he met with 'members' of congress,, as did OBama

but he never got 'congressional approval' in the formal sense of the ambiguous term


It still must not be the exact same scenario........or they wouldn't be going as far as they are with it



of course its not exactly the same,, that was their Revered Raegan, and this is the socialist, communist, america hating, future destroying President OBama,,,,,

and NATURALLY, the provocation for the action then wasnt the EXACT same as the one in 2011

but the action was the same,,,

Seakolony's photo
Sun 03/11/12 10:55 AM



Expresses the sense of the Congress that the President did not comply with the War Powers Act when he ordered the April 14, 1986, attack on Libya. Urges the President to comply with such Act in the future.


war powers act is not about 'blatant disregard'

it is about consulting with congress before ordering military action

which Reagan did not do when HE ordered air strikes over Libya either,,,

he met with 'members' of congress,, as did OBama

but he never got 'congressional approval' in the formal sense of the ambiguous term


It still must not be the exact same scenario........or they wouldn't be going as far as they are with it



of course its not exactly the same,, that was their Revered Raegan, and this is the socialist, communist, america hating, future destroying President OBama,,,,,

and NATURALLY, the provocation for the action then wasnt the EXACT same as the one in 2011

but the action was the same,,,


Well then reagan should have faced the same, but doesn't mean Obama shouldn't face it now.

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/11/12 11:40 AM




Expresses the sense of the Congress that the President did not comply with the War Powers Act when he ordered the April 14, 1986, attack on Libya. Urges the President to comply with such Act in the future.


war powers act is not about 'blatant disregard'

it is about consulting with congress before ordering military action

which Reagan did not do when HE ordered air strikes over Libya either,,,

he met with 'members' of congress,, as did OBama

but he never got 'congressional approval' in the formal sense of the ambiguous term


It still must not be the exact same scenario........or they wouldn't be going as far as they are with it



of course its not exactly the same,, that was their Revered Raegan, and this is the socialist, communist, america hating, future destroying President OBama,,,,,

and NATURALLY, the provocation for the action then wasnt the EXACT same as the one in 2011

but the action was the same,,,


Well then reagan should have faced the same, but doesn't mean Obama shouldn't face it now.


what should happen is a CLEARLY laid out criteria for whether the office has that power or NOT

not to have one standard earlier and then punish the next person who follows the same standard,,,

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sun 03/11/12 01:46 PM



wait, theres only one gay guy on dancing with the stars?....lol




Honestly, lol, I have no clue Harmony.
I don't watch that crap. :/

My mom was all like, "CARRRSSSSOOOOONNNN!!"

And I was the same towards the NFL player Reed. xD
I had his locker in H.S. :O

That's why they were both there. :P

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sun 03/11/12 01:48 PM


what should happen is a CLEARLY laid out criteria for whether the office has that power or NOT

not to have one standard earlier and then punish the next person who follows the same standard,,,


Like I said..

That's how Congress rolls.

Far back as I can tell, and even laid the example.

Been like that since Lincoln's assassination. :/

They pick and choose.
It may be society's pick on who gets in..
..but unless they're saints.

Congress picks who stays.

Seakolony's photo
Sun 03/11/12 06:11 PM
Reagan obviously didn't have the power, and that is clear. He should have faced the same consequences. Obama should face the consequences. I don't believe Reagan should have had a slap on the hand either.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/11/12 11:54 PM


You should look into Loss Prevention. It pays a lot better and is a lot more fun.


..what for the bank?

Or in general?

Cause in "general" I haven't found a place hiring for it. :/

I could probably find raw gold ore and diamonds underneath my house easier than finding a job outside fast food in this freaking area anymore. >:[


No for a retailer. You are in plain clothes looking for shoplifters and when they leave with merchandise they didn't pay for you stop them, put them in handcuffs and bring them back into the store.

Every major retailer and almost every minor retailer has Loss Prevention in their stores. Even small stores like Walgreens and Rite Aid and CVS has it. It's also not something most businesses advertise for, because they don't want just anyone applying.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/11/12 11:56 PM


Expresses the sense of the Congress that the President did not comply with the War Powers Act when he ordered the April 14, 1986, attack on Libya. Urges the President to comply with such Act in the future.


war powers act is not about 'blatant disregard'

it is about consulting with congress before ordering military action

which Reagan did not do when HE ordered air strikes over Libya either,,,

he met with 'members' of congress,, as did OBama

but he never got 'congressional approval' in the formal sense of the ambiguous term


It still must not be the exact same scenario........or they wouldn't be going as far as they are with it


They arn't going to get very far with it. It will get killed in Committee.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/11/12 11:57 PM



Expresses the sense of the Congress that the President did not comply with the War Powers Act when he ordered the April 14, 1986, attack on Libya. Urges the President to comply with such Act in the future.


war powers act is not about 'blatant disregard'

it is about consulting with congress before ordering military action

which Reagan did not do when HE ordered air strikes over Libya either,,,

he met with 'members' of congress,, as did OBama

but he never got 'congressional approval' in the formal sense of the ambiguous term


It still must not be the exact same scenario........or they wouldn't be going as far as they are with it
Nope what Reagan did was against the rules.The media just made it out to be a dog and pony show for the Americans.What was kept secret for awhile was selling weapons to Iran for hostages even though there was a strict embargo.Reagan was no saint and never faced any legal actions Oliver North took one for the team.


The difference between President Reagan and Obama is that Reagan was a great President.

msharmony's photo
Mon 03/12/12 12:05 AM




Expresses the sense of the Congress that the President did not comply with the War Powers Act when he ordered the April 14, 1986, attack on Libya. Urges the President to comply with such Act in the future.


war powers act is not about 'blatant disregard'

it is about consulting with congress before ordering military action

which Reagan did not do when HE ordered air strikes over Libya either,,,

he met with 'members' of congress,, as did OBama

but he never got 'congressional approval' in the formal sense of the ambiguous term


It still must not be the exact same scenario........or they wouldn't be going as far as they are with it
Nope what Reagan did was against the rules.The media just made it out to be a dog and pony show for the Americans.What was kept secret for awhile was selling weapons to Iran for hostages even though there was a strict embargo.Reagan was no saint and never faced any legal actions Oliver North took one for the team.


The difference between President Reagan and Obama is that Reagan was a great President.



,, and another old white male politician who got a pass,,,,,


Lpdon's photo
Mon 03/12/12 12:38 AM





Expresses the sense of the Congress that the President did not comply with the War Powers Act when he ordered the April 14, 1986, attack on Libya. Urges the President to comply with such Act in the future.


war powers act is not about 'blatant disregard'

it is about consulting with congress before ordering military action

which Reagan did not do when HE ordered air strikes over Libya either,,,

he met with 'members' of congress,, as did OBama

but he never got 'congressional approval' in the formal sense of the ambiguous term


It still must not be the exact same scenario........or they wouldn't be going as far as they are with it
Nope what Reagan did was against the rules.The media just made it out to be a dog and pony show for the Americans.What was kept secret for awhile was selling weapons to Iran for hostages even though there was a strict embargo.Reagan was no saint and never faced any legal actions Oliver North took one for the team.


The difference between President Reagan and Obama is that Reagan was a great President.



,, and another old white male politician who got a pass,,,,,




Now look who's making the racist comment.

msharmony's photo
Mon 03/12/12 01:02 AM






Expresses the sense of the Congress that the President did not comply with the War Powers Act when he ordered the April 14, 1986, attack on Libya. Urges the President to comply with such Act in the future.


war powers act is not about 'blatant disregard'

it is about consulting with congress before ordering military action

which Reagan did not do when HE ordered air strikes over Libya either,,,

he met with 'members' of congress,, as did OBama

but he never got 'congressional approval' in the formal sense of the ambiguous term


It still must not be the exact same scenario........or they wouldn't be going as far as they are with it
Nope what Reagan did was against the rules.The media just made it out to be a dog and pony show for the Americans.What was kept secret for awhile was selling weapons to Iran for hostages even though there was a strict embargo.Reagan was no saint and never faced any legal actions Oliver North took one for the team.


The difference between President Reagan and Obama is that Reagan was a great President.



,, and another old white male politician who got a pass,,,,,




Now look who's making the racist comment.



was it untrue?

was he young, black, female?