Topic: Congressmen Jones Starts Impeachment Process on Hussein Obam | |
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but they often dont really help either its a gamble of an investment,,,, |
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so get a degree Sin - that simple or graduate HS if u have not done that yet I will help u if u need help - all ya gotta do is ask I have both, don't need your help, but do appreciate the thought.:) I meant my friends and other people in my area. I actually just got a call to work IT for TD Bank. |
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A bit late in the game. Barry has done much damage. But, if it will keep him off a ballot and we don't have to pay benefits after he's gone, it will be worth it. Bill Text 112th Congress (2011-2012) H.CON.RES.107.IH H.CON.RES.107 -- Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high... (Introduced in House - IH) HCON 107 IH 112th CONGRESS 2d Session H. CON. RES. 107 Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES March 7, 2012 Mr. JONES submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary CONCURRENT RESOLUTION Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution. Whereas the cornerstone of the Republic is honoring Congress's exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution: Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That it is the sense of Congress that, except in response to an actual or imminent attack against the territory of the United States, the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress violates Congress's exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution and therefore constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.CON.RES.107: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vuu7ma4B8wY I hope this goes through because I wanna see that tool get impeached BUT he will skate by since he is covered by the war powers act since the President can order troops to go in for 90 days without Congress. Also I fully supported the action in Libya and think we should have done more, but I just wanna see the a$$hole impeached so im good with it. |
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Yeah well That is better then helping Ppl with no jobs or Helping the Human rights of the ppl of pine ridge but Hey let's get paid To impeach a prez... problem is, no war was declared, and article four doesnt DEFINE what a high crime or misdemeanor is,,,,, another problem is that army nor navy was used (nor 'states militia'), which under the constitution are the two branches he is EXPLICITLY commmander in chief of it mentions nothing of the AIR FORCES which accompanied other UN forces,,,,, Ummm, the Navy was used and so was Marines. |
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Yeah well That is better then helping Ppl with no jobs or Helping the Human rights of the ppl of pine ridge but Hey let's get paid To impeach a prez... Your examples given are some of the very reasons this is looooooong overdue. Then add the destruction of the constitution and bill of rights, claiming dictatorial power over the lives and freedom of American citizens, bowing to his king in Egypt, unconstitutional and treasonist position on UN concil.... need I go on? The abuses and criminal acts are many.... my question would be "why has it taken so long for anyone to care?" I keep hearing this claim. How has THIS PRESIDENT specifically destroyed the Constitution or bill of rights? How has this president specifically 'claimed' dictatorial power over american citizens? (If mentioning the NDAA, why wasnt the INITIATOR of said power George Bush endited, when he originally imparted that same power to the presidential office with the AUMF?) Since when is a bow a HIGH OFFENSE (If mentioning Egypt, why would congress consider it a high offense when congress approves Egypts status as an MNNA to receive american military and financial benefit?) What part of the constitution denies a President any part of the UN council? ,,,if the question is why has it taken so long for congress to be offended by such (longstanding) presidential powers,,,,,,, I think I know the answer,,,,,, on with making their 'example' of this President,,,,lol Obamacare. |
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Yeah well That is better then helping Ppl with no jobs or Helping the Human rights of the ppl of pine ridge but Hey let's get paid To impeach a prez... problem is, no war was declared, and article four doesnt DEFINE what a high crime or misdemeanor is,,,,, another problem is that army nor navy was used (nor 'states militia'), which under the constitution are the two branches he is EXPLICITLY commmander in chief of it mentions nothing of the AIR FORCES which accompanied other UN forces,,,,, Actually, as commander in chief all he can do without the approval of congress is position and move the military. He cannot open fire on another or another country......he can return fire if fired upon but not give the okay to fire or make war upon another..... Actually, yes he can for up to 90 days. |
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Yeah well That is better then helping Ppl with no jobs or Helping the Human rights of the ppl of pine ridge but Hey let's get paid To impeach a prez... problem is, no war was declared, and article four doesnt DEFINE what a high crime or misdemeanor is,,,,, another problem is that army nor navy was used (nor 'states militia'), which under the constitution are the two branches he is EXPLICITLY commmander in chief of it mentions nothing of the AIR FORCES which accompanied other UN forces,,,,, Actually, as commander in cheif all he can do without the approval of congress is position and move the military. He cannot open fire on another country......he can return fire if fired upon but not give the okay to fire or make war upon another..... who did he 'make war' on,,,? dont military commanders give 'orders' to fire,,,,? No, the order comes from the White House. |
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Yeah well That is better then helping Ppl with no jobs or Helping the Human rights of the ppl of pine ridge but Hey let's get paid To impeach a prez... problem is, no war was declared, and article four doesnt DEFINE what a high crime or misdemeanor is,,,,, another problem is that army nor navy was used (nor 'states militia'), which under the constitution are the two branches he is EXPLICITLY commmander in chief of it mentions nothing of the AIR FORCES which accompanied other UN forces,,,,, Actually, as commander in cheif all he can do without the approval of congress is position and move the military. He cannot open fire on another country......he can return fire if fired upon but not give the okay to fire or make war upon another..... who did he 'make war' on,,,? dont military commanders give 'orders' to fire,,,,? They do but only with congressional approval to give the order to fire upon another......they need approval to give those orders.... Nope, wrong again. |
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thats a popular opinion, apparently I disagree as do many others but it will be up to 'professionals' to disect Id like to note though, that our military was ALREADY involved in delivering aide to Libya, which was being obstructed by Qhaddaffi forces,, so it wasnt exactly an 'unprovoked' occurrence ,,,but on with the show,,, ..but was the USA in that event, the aggressor or the defender? If the US openly sought out said engagement; it is an act of "war". If they defended themselves, then the act of war was done against us. After all, it's not officially "war" until it is "declared". The other catch is we haven't declared war on another country since the second world war. |
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If Jones didn't think he had a strong case, I don't believe he would have filed impeachment proceedings. Maybe a lawyer here on ming2 has a professional opinion? what is Jones' legal background people bring forth futile cases in the judicial system all the time, why would impeachment cases be different? He doesn't have a legal background. He has a degree from a religios college and worked for his families Office Supply company. He is also a nut job deluxe. He is not like by either the Republicans or Democrats at all. |
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If Jones didn't think he had a strong case, I don't believe he would have filed impeachment proceedings. Maybe a lawyer here on ming2 has a professional opinion? what is Jones' legal background people bring forth futile cases in the judicial system all the time, why would impeachment cases be different? http://jones.house.gov/Biography/ Just for you Harmony. :) He's presently ranked #17 out of 535 Congressman as the hardest working. :D I get it. He is a hard working man, a longtime politician, and a former vet (of four years) but I cant find what his NON POLITICAL background is,,,,,in terms of the constitution or the law (Education, experience,,,etc,,) He doesn't have one. |
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Here is a little about Jone's moral character and sense of civic duty to the people. GOP Rep. Walter Jones: Bring troops home instead of cutting school lunch programs Republican Congressman Walter Jones of North Carolina said Tuesday that all U.S. military forces should be pulled out of Afghanistan now that Osama bin Laden is dead. “Why this Congress continues to complain about budgets and cuts and deficits and debts — and our young men and women are walking the roads of Afghanistan getting their legs blown off and getting killed — we still sit here in Congress and don’t bring it up as an issue,” he said on the House floor. Jones added that Afghan President Hamid Karzai was a “corrupt leader,” and that the U.S. was spending billions of dollars every month in the country, yet Congress was eying cuts to school lunch programs for American children and cuts to benefits for American senior citizens. “More important than the money,” he added, “is the pain of war, and this Congress needs to come together and say to Obama, ‘lets bring em home, this year, next year, not in 2014.’” rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/05/gop-rep-walter-jones-bring-troops-home-instead-of-cutting-school-lunch-programs/ He's a kook. |
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I believe he probably is a 'good' man Im from the Anne Frank school of belief that MOST people actually are 'good' but even good people can be dead wrong,,,,,and even good people can be mistaken, and even good people dont know everything about everything and even less about many things The problem is he is dead wrong and mistaken on a regular basis. |
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problem is, no war was declared, and article four doesnt DEFINE what a high crime or misdemeanor is,,,,, Article 4 doesn't.. But Congress has. And to sum it up, the best way possible. Rewind. 1970. A then Congressman, Gerald Ford said: "..an impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history." This comment was in regards to the "unconfirmed" analysis of what constituted a "high crime and misdemeanor". Somewhat relevant to his case. Andrew Johnson's impeachment. Further note. During Nixon's impeachment, let it be known that they did NOT cite him for tax evasion. Why? Because as they put it.. "This committee does not believe that is an impeachable offense." well, I guess they will stop at nothing' its still just as futile as the attempt to 'prove' he isnt american born or christian I doubt most americans will support it, and Im twice as doubtful the Senate would get a two third majority needed to 'convict' I also doubt whatever 'offense' they come up with would have a legal precedent as a high crime when committed by any other president in history ,,,,but whatever floats their desperate little boats,, for there to be so much HATRED of this President that they go to such EXTREMES,,,,history continues to be written and its amazing to be a part of it OBAMA 2012! Oh I think a lot of people would see him impeached and I doubt he has much chance in 2012 for that reason I think the impeachment is a waste - he'll be gone in Nov anyway the economy, gas prices, jobless and UNDERemployment rates, and questions about his naturalization all will hurt him - not to mention the bail outs and mandatory health insurance which is tyranny - this is the short list Harmony sorry luv ya & I know how much u like Mr Obama but I will agree, that as military commander & chief and President he deserves to be discussed with respect. And as military commander in chief (where I NEVER would have put him - no experience) his decisions are just that - he's allowed. that is wht it is so important to have someone in the office who can make those decisions Depends on who the Republicans nominate to run against him. He stood no chance at getting re-elected until Mitt Romney became the front runner. If the Republicans had a half way decent candiate in the race (which they don't at all) Obama would have been done in 2012. |
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problem is, no war was declared, and article four doesnt DEFINE what a high crime or misdemeanor is,,,,, Article 4 doesn't.. But Congress has. And to sum it up, the best way possible. Rewind. 1970. A then Congressman, Gerald Ford said: "..an impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history." This comment was in regards to the "unconfirmed" analysis of what constituted a "high crime and misdemeanor". Somewhat relevant to his case. Andrew Johnson's impeachment. Further note. During Nixon's impeachment, let it be known that they did NOT cite him for tax evasion. Why? Because as they put it.. "This committee does not believe that is an impeachable offense." well, I guess they will stop at nothing' its still just as futile as the attempt to 'prove' he isnt american born or christian I doubt most americans will support it, and Im twice as doubtful the Senate would get a two third majority needed to 'convict' I also doubt whatever 'offense' they come up with would have a legal precedent as a high crime when committed by any other president in history ,,,,but whatever floats their desperate little boats,, for there to be so much HATRED of this President that they go to such EXTREMES,,,,history continues to be written and its amazing to be a part of it OBAMA 2012! Oh I think a lot of people would see him impeached and I doubt he has much chance in 2012 for that reason I think the impeachment is a waste - he'll be gone in Nov anyway the economy, gas prices, jobless and UNDERemployment rates, and questions about his naturalization all will hurt him - not to mention the bail outs and mandatory health insurance which is tyranny - this is the short list Harmony sorry luv ya & I know how much u like Mr Obama but I will agree, that as military commander & chief and President he deserves to be discussed with respect. And as military commander in chief (where I NEVER would have put him - no experience) his decisions are just that - he's allowed. that is wht it is so important to have someone in the office who can make those decisions Depends on who the Republicans nominate to run against him. He stood no chance at getting re-elected until Mitt Romney became the front runner. If the Republicans had a half way decent candiate in the race (which they don't at all) Obama would have been done in 2012. |
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problem is, no war was declared, and article four doesnt DEFINE what a high crime or misdemeanor is,,,,, Article 4 doesn't.. But Congress has. And to sum it up, the best way possible. Rewind. 1970. A then Congressman, Gerald Ford said: "..an impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history." This comment was in regards to the "unconfirmed" analysis of what constituted a "high crime and misdemeanor". Somewhat relevant to his case. Andrew Johnson's impeachment. Further note. During Nixon's impeachment, let it be known that they did NOT cite him for tax evasion. Why? Because as they put it.. "This committee does not believe that is an impeachable offense." well, I guess they will stop at nothing' its still just as futile as the attempt to 'prove' he isnt american born or christian I doubt most americans will support it, and Im twice as doubtful the Senate would get a two third majority needed to 'convict' I also doubt whatever 'offense' they come up with would have a legal precedent as a high crime when committed by any other president in history ,,,,but whatever floats their desperate little boats,, for there to be so much HATRED of this President that they go to such EXTREMES,,,,history continues to be written and its amazing to be a part of it OBAMA 2012! Oh I think a lot of people would see him impeached and I doubt he has much chance in 2012 for that reason I think the impeachment is a waste - he'll be gone in Nov anyway the economy, gas prices, jobless and UNDERemployment rates, and questions about his naturalization all will hurt him - not to mention the bail outs and mandatory health insurance which is tyranny - this is the short list Harmony sorry luv ya & I know how much u like Mr Obama but I will agree, that as military commander & chief and President he deserves to be discussed with respect. And as military commander in chief (where I NEVER would have put him - no experience) his decisions are just that - he's allowed. that is wht it is so important to have someone in the office who can make those decisions or someone smart enough to surround themself with those who have the experience to aide him in those decisions luv you too, and think your short list is mostly propoganda the naturalization issue is a non issue that isnt and will never be proven without also implying a whole state GOVERNMENT is in a conspiracy gas prices, that a president has not as much to do with as GLOBAL oil trends do the 'bailouts' can and have been argued to have stopped things from getting WORSE than they were at the beginning of 2009 the mandatory health insurance will continue to be debated by some as tyrannical and by others as within government authority to control inter state commerce, just as all other western governments do jobs are picking back up as are employment rates, the economy will follow,,, not as QUICKLY as some were expecting or demanding, but it will happen just the same in part (in my opinion) because of actions taken under this administration that and the continued polls which show OBAMA pummelling all other republican candidates ,, and I think not everyone is as sure that he will not get reelected hence, the desperate measures to 'impeach' ,,, Who cares if he surrounds himself with those people, he doesn't listen to them. He is on to much of a power trip and has to much of an ego to listen to him. That's why the top military leaders do not like or respect him. Hell, even on the Bin Laden raid, not ONE of his advisors agreed with the Seal Team part of the raid and he didn't listen to ANY of them. That's just one example. No matter what anyone says about Obama you will sit here and be a cheerleader for him and it's really sad. |
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respected I would not want to see any of the other current candidates represent America to the world and I see the Healthcare reform as a historical and progressive achievement so I cant possibly NOT support him Reasons I cannot support Obama: 1. Unemployment may be dropping, but in my area, such is only due to people being unable to collect anymore; thus still "unemployed" but now I guess they just consider them "jobless". 2. Congress doesn't like him. The reasons for this, I honestly could careless; however, Congress sucks so as it is, but if there's a president they can at least "stand" in the same room; some "progress" can at least be hoped to be achieved. 3. Jobs that opened in this area since this so-called "raise in employment". Half of them are government related, a quarter of them are in construction hardcore manual labor which, people with a bad knee (me) can't even attempt. The other quarter? Good luck getting your foot in the door without a 2-4 year education and a hella good resume to back it up. Hard to get experience when no one gives you a chance. 4. Minimum Wage goes up - our good jobs go overseas. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't his fault. But it literally benefits big businesses to pay the Chinese, etc, to do what we can do for a heck of a lot cheaper. It's sad when you do all your business here and have a 75% more chance of going bankrupt. *shakes head* 5. WTF are his main focuses right now? Every time I see him, something about "war" or such related keeps popping out of his mouth. As if that's our biggest concern. Now.. Why I won't vote for Mitt, or wtf ever other douche gets nominated: 1. They are all hypocritical flat out lying douche nuggets. 2. I'd rather re-elect Bush for a third term then any of these guys that actually stand a chance to win it. 3. Every time I see them talking, I can literally see their Pinocchio nose growing inch by inch with each word. 4. Spending millions just to degrade the other guys "reputation" with false propaganda is getting REALLY old. That's MO. You left out that the military leadership does not like him. Unemployment isn't dropping across the country, it's actually increasing here. Actually I wouldn't mind Santorum at all. I liked Gingrich as well but I have lost ALL respect for him over this past week. |
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I think Obama is in a JFK situation,many people in congress and around JFK wanted to go to war with Cuba,but he held back and eventually Russia removed it's missles from Cuba.JFK tried to assassinate Castro it failed,though he did resolve the Cuban missle crisis diplomatcally. See Obama is assassinating threats and not invading a country cause he is trying to resolve the Iran issue diplomatically,but everyone around him and in congress,plus Israel are licking their chops to invade Iran.All i can say is "Obama do not ride in a convertible in Dallas with the top down." that would be a fair warning from the DAY he was elected, when he became one of the presidents with the MOST assassination threats in the history of presidents,,,,,, things change, but things remain the same,,, Actually, President Bush had more assassination threats and attempts then Obama has had also Clinton had more attempts on him then Obama has too. |
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so get a degree Sin - that simple or graduate HS if u have not done that yet I will help u if u need help - all ya gotta do is ask I have both, don't need your help, but do appreciate the thought.:) I meant my friends and other people in my area. I actually just got a call to work IT for TD Bank. You should look into Loss Prevention. It pays a lot better and is a lot more fun. |
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You should look into Loss Prevention. It pays a lot better and is a lot more fun. ..what for the bank? Or in general? Cause in "general" I haven't found a place hiring for it. :/ I could probably find raw gold ore and diamonds underneath my house easier than finding a job outside fast food in this freaking area anymore. >:[ |
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