I agree with you.

The French Resistance in WWII was a real pain in the butt, both for the French and for the German occupiers.

If you ask any electrical engineer, they will tell you that electronical torture would never exist if man had much less resistence than the current standard of 12 KiloOhms per inch per square inch.

IF that is true, (that if you are detached from people and things or outcomes etc.) --they cannot cause you pain. (emotional sense of loss) -- because you have not really lost anything.

But if you lose someone you love and are attached to, (through death or some other way) your resistance to the facts of the matter, is what causes the pain. What the mind tends to do is resist the truth of what is. The longer a person resists the truth of the matter, the longer they will grieve and feel the emotional pain and feeling of loss.

It is not logical to dwell on the past and to grieve for a long time for something that is truly lost when there is no power to get it back. The soon a person accepts what is, the sooner they can look forward and move on.

Acceptance of what is (the truth or reality of the situation)is where a person begins to heal their emotional pain.

Well you asked what the cause of pain was. That is attachment. Without attachment you will not feel pain. With attacent you will feel pain at the loss. Resistance continues the pain. But no matter how quickly you stop resisting, you will feel the initial pain of loss.

My definitions for pain

Pain in the a$$ ... Lunachicks

Pain (emotional) ... Some idiot you open your heart to

Physical one ... Freaking table meeting my toe

Well his pecker was attached to his....oops...wrong quote. Never mind.

It's those little tiny cracks in your skin next to your fingernails...feels like a razor cut.

If that were true, then what that means is that people could avoid emotional pain if they could practice complete emotional detachment.

Just block your heart and don't give a crap about anyone or anything.

(That could be why we are seeing so many psychopaths emerging in our society.)

I would rather take my chances with real love. I can deal with my own propensity to feel pain. When its over its just over. Accept it as quickly as possible and move on with your life.

But I would never blame love (or attachment) for my own pain which is a resistance to what is, and I would never give up feeling love and attachment for people to avoid feeling fear or pain.

The price is too high. It would be the price of a life without feeling love or compassion for others.

The cause????

A Hammer.

How severe???

Depends on the size of the hammer, the amount of force applied and the resistance you're thumb exerts in return.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..............

Yep.....

I go with the resistance theory!!!!

Yes, because if you think about it, if we were like ghosts and we could walk through walls and each other, the hammer could not cause much resistance.

How did the hammer cause resistance?

Ya gotta read it all Totage.....
Hammer applies the Force........
Thumb applies the .....resistance!!!

That's cuz I was askin for it

Ruth said:



Yes, IF we have emotions and attachment and/or love we will feel the initial pain of loss because we do not accept the changes immediately. The more we resist change, the longer we will grieve and feel pain.

Here we have a time limit placed upon the act of resisting. If we have no attachment, there is no initial feeling of loss, hence no emotional pain.

So how long do we feel the pain? The answer is: as long as there is resistance to the changes, we will feel the pain.

A computer or a robot with no feelings, upon losing something that it was mechanically attached to, does not grieve at all because that robot has no emotions and is not emotionally attached, only mechanically attached. If it does anything it simply adjusts to the changes in order to keep operating.

So we find that the length of the grieving period is determined by how quickly a person accepts facts and changes in the condition and begins to adjust.

Logically, a psychopath with no feelings and attachments would begin immediately to adjust to the changes, bypassing grief.

Does that mean we should envy the psychopaths? I don't think I do.

Actually, wouldn't the eyes have applied the resistance? They sent the data to the brain, and the brain reacted to that data.

AND, wouldn't the hand have applied the force to the hammer?

In this it's all the brains fault.

No?

The hammer met with resistance when it hit the thumb.

The thumb lost.

Of course the hammer did not feel any pain. Its a hammer.

But the person attached to the thumb sure did.

In that case attachment did play a big role in the pain.

If the thumb was severed from the body, and then was hit with the hammer, I don't think the thumb would feel any pain, and the person wouldn't either.

Of course the person with a thumb severed would feel the pain of the thumb being severed, but would not feel any more pain when you hit the thumb with a hammer.

When you are talking about physical pain, it is the messages sent to the brain's pain centers that inform you of the pain.

You can disconnect the pain centers in the brain and never feel any physical pain. Not a good idea though.

No not the brain's "fault." The brain only registers the pain in order to inform you that your thumb has met some resistance with a hammer.

The brain sends the signals to act and react though.

I havta resist all this............

its givin me a head ache!!!!!!

Is that my brain resisting thought?????

Yes it does. But the signals coming and going to and from the brain is not the cause.

Resistance between the hammer and the thumb is the cause.

Possibly