Mariah knows all.

Its all in his eyes, how he treats others. His heart. Being in his presence.

The reformed guy? Maybe, hell, the movie "Falling Down" was JUST an all-in-the-day type of floozy right? LOVE that guy btw. Totally honest, just batchit crazy out and proud!! What's better? Awww, sucha turn on.

For me a real man isn't afraid of a strong independent woman and can accept me as his equal as well as for who I am. However; that kind of man doesn't exist so guess it really doesn't matter anyways.

Men (especially older men) really aren't interested in dealing with a low self-esteem, high maintenance, woman. A man can tell if a woman has self confidence or low self-esteem in a matter of minutes of meeting her. A self confident woman is nice to be around.

Sometimes women trying to portray themselves as independent come across as arrogant. Presentation is the key.

A "Real Man" doesn't have to advertise it: his life portrays it.

An "Independent Woman" doesn't have to advertise it: her life demonstrates it.

Having to advertise and tell others is usually an indicator of a "wanna-be" personality.

A loving, self-confident woman is a prize. While some quantity of complimenting a woman is normal and (I'm sure) appreciated having to prop up low self-esteem gets old. Men are not afraid of a self-confident and independent woman. It's when she comes across as arrogant we walk away.

I can't speak for all women, but I can definitely tell if a man has self confidence, or if he's insecure very quickly as well. I'm not interested in the insecure guy who needs reassuring all the time.

Thought I'd add a few comments of my own. After reading 4 pages the thought came to men to sit down and write what a "Real Man" is to me. I wrote the following without much effort:

1. Confidence in ourselves, the life we have made and the direction we are going.

2. Maybe not rich but financially stable.

3. Not afraid to talk and (yes) flirt with a woman.

4. Display emotion when we feel it's appropriate: in control of ourselves.

5. Not afraid of commitment but will not be pressured into something we do not feel comfortable with or ready for.

6. Being assertive but not arrogant or controlling and resist being controlled.

7. Having a sexual side that we are not ashamed of but try never misuse.

8. Willing and able to defend ourselves and that which is right but only as a "last resort". Personally we try to be civilized and dislike violence except maybe a little on TV.

9. Take pride in our lifes chosen career and in paying our way in life.

10. Take pride in personal hygiene (change our socks once a month whether they need it or not, right ladies)

11. Can apologize when we become aware of something we have done to hurt someone else.

12. Have the ability to forgive if hurt or misused. This might take a little time but a forgiving heart is within our nature.

No, there's men like that out there. Trust me.

Being indepedent comes with self confidence. I don't have to advertise it or even say a word as men know it because I served in the military. If a man sees it as arrogance; then it just shows me how narrow-minded he is as he obviously can't think out of the box. This is the crap that society puts in our minds which is why I couldn't be bothered to date.

Then they must be hiding. The ones that I met like that here are married. sigh.

and as it should be

don't be fooled mariah -they're all either teasers or pleasers

same thing s far as guys and confidence

confidence is fine - personally I am not fixated on flashy displays of it

and OR if confidence comes across as arrogance or "distance" (like he's too "good" to bother being nice) - that is a HUGE turn off

no need to prop up low self esteem - it's normal to remind someone that they are important to you. that is not propping up low self esteem

Ya need a military man, someone who's been through combat and has confidence, so he can accept you as you are!

While you were chasing after the bad boys, the good guys you rejected were taken by the girls who wanted good guys.

In other words, you want a sugar daddy so that you don't have make any financial contribution toward the kind of lifestyle that you want.

Can a man have fake hair and fake teeth and still be a real man?

Let me examine your statements above:

Spider said:
1.Women possess the two most valuable resources to mankind: Sex and Babies.

Correction:
Women do not possess sex or babies. They possess a vagina and they produce babies after being impregnated.

Spider said:
2. Most women have to feel secure that you are going to take care of her or she'll never be truly happy.

Correction:
Women like to feel that if you get her pregnant you will help her raise the child rather than abandon her, or worse, hang around and expect you to raise the child and also support and feed them while they sit around on the couch watching television with no job.

Spider said:
3. Where many men fail is that a woman will test his resolve and the man will back down.

Correction:
Where many men fail is that they are not adult enough to take responsibility for planting their sperm all over the place and many women end up raising their children alone.

Spider said:
A real man isn't afraid to spend a night on the couch if he knows he's right; in the morning, she'll respect him for it.

Correction:
A real man works and pays the rent and sleeps where ever he wants in his house. They work their problems out before they go to bed at night. They don't play games like sleeping on the couch.

Spider said:
Men have to learn to pick their battles and hold their ground. If you won't stand up to your wife, why should she trust you to stand up for her?

Correction:
That sounds like you are advocating stubbornness and petty power struggles between the man and wife.

exactly what women respect is a man who reasonable enough to realize that there can be differing points of view and intelligent enough to change his mind on occasion or admit he is incorrect if warranted - but definitely able to agree to disagree with RESPECT and good make up sex which more fun than arguing and sleeping on the couch

Yeh make up sex.

What a man wants is a woman who is reasonable enough to realize that there can be differing points of view and intelligent enough to change her mind on occasion or admit that she is incorrect if warranted - but definitely able to agree to disagree with RESPECT and good make up sex which more fun than arguing and sleeping on the couch.