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Did you know that in the US, once your email becomes 181 days old that law enforcement doesn't need a warrant to read/use it?
Do you know of anymore internet laws that are probably not well known? |
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Edited by
vthepoet
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Thu 02/09/12 07:50 PM
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wow really? o.O
you have the legal paperwork or now where it can be found so i can have a looksie? |
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Did you know that in the US, once your email becomes 181 days old that law enforcement doesn't need a warrant to read/use it? Do you know of anymore internet laws that are probably not well known? Did you know it's not actually YOUR email? |
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http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/how_police_get_your_phone_records
This has that information and some other. |
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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/04/fourth-amendment-email-2/
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They don't need a warrant at any time, it's not your property. All they have to do is ask the ISP at which the email resides for the data. Read your ISPs TOS and Privacy Policies.
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I am learning.
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Yeah I am pretty sure that you are not well legally protected privacy wise on a netowrk type deal..email .. chat... that sort of thing... it is more considered rude as the privacy policy of a work place or school to go through their employees/students email... when in route as a transmission (on a public network like the internet)I think anyone can look at it legally...just guessing
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Did you know that in the US, once your email becomes 181 days old that law enforcement doesn't need a warrant to read/use it? Do you know of anymore internet laws that are probably not well known? Did you know it's not actually YOUR email? It is if you handle it yourself - if you own the machine handling the email and you setup your own software for handling the email. I don't know about windows, but pretty much everyone on linux and mac machines with an ip address could set this up for themselves. For a long time (in the 90s) I received most of my email on a machine owned by a friend of mine. You are right that, in practice, almost all of our email is handled by entities who are only giving us access to an account that they own. We agreed to their terms, and they are free to change those terms. Yet it is absolutely within our reach to switch over to a world where all email is encrypted, and sent to personal mail servers, making our email 'ours' once again. |
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They don't need a warrant at any time, it's not your property. All they have to do is ask the ISP at which the email resides for the data. Read your ISPs TOS and Privacy Policies. True. Whether its an ISP or another email service provider. |
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This isn't specific to email, but its an example of how we should shift away from centralized control, and back towards owning our own information (at least wrt social networks):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora_(social_network) |
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Did you know that in the US, once your email becomes 181 days old that law enforcement doesn't need a warrant to read/use it? Do you know of anymore internet laws that are probably not well known? Did you know it's not actually YOUR email? It is if you handle it yourself - if you own the machine handling the email and you setup your own software for handling the email. I don't know about windows, but pretty much everyone on linux and mac machines with an ip address could set this up for themselves. For a long time (in the 90s) I received most of my email on a machine owned by a friend of mine. You are right that, in practice, almost all of our email is handled by entities who are only giving us access to an account that they own. We agreed to their terms, and they are free to change those terms. Yet it is absolutely within our reach to switch over to a world where all email is encrypted, and sent to personal mail servers, making our email 'ours' once again. |
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If you were running a server from home, your isp would probably shut you down before dhs got wind of it. Unless of course there is illegal activity going on.
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I've run a server from my home before. Many friends of mine do it to. One particular friend has been running a server from home for 20 years. Before dropbox existed, I used it for... well, essentially cloud computing, long before the term existed.
I didn't leave my server up very long only because I didn't know enough to keep it secure. But its not terribly hard, and if you don't use a lot of bandwidth I don't think the ISP will notice. This was with comcast. I'm not sure if other isps place limits that make DIY servers more difficult. |
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yeah, small servers can get away with being run, as long as they are not hogging bandwidth, but it's frowned upon by the ISP.
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Did you know that in the US, once your email becomes 181 days old that law enforcement doesn't need a warrant to read/use it? Do you know of anymore internet laws that are probably not well known? Did you know it's not actually YOUR email? It is if you handle it yourself - if you own the machine handling the email and you setup your own software for handling the email. I don't know about windows, but pretty much everyone on linux and mac machines with an ip address could set this up for themselves. For a long time (in the 90s) I received most of my email on a machine owned by a friend of mine. You are right that, in practice, almost all of our email is handled by entities who are only giving us access to an account that they own. We agreed to their terms, and they are free to change those terms. Yet it is absolutely within our reach to switch over to a world where all email is encrypted, and sent to personal mail servers, making our email 'ours' once again. perhaps. However the linked operating systems exchange your IP. So your 'contacts' would be an open book. (and a cray could decript the mail) The government has every operating system that is currently on the market. In some system or other. |
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Did you know that in the US, once your email becomes 181 days old that law enforcement doesn't need a warrant to read/use it? Do you know of anymore internet laws that are probably not well known? Did you know it's not actually YOUR email? It is if you handle it yourself - if you own the machine handling the email and you setup your own software for handling the email. I don't know about windows, but pretty much everyone on linux and mac machines with an ip address could set this up for themselves. For a long time (in the 90s) I received most of my email on a machine owned by a friend of mine. You are right that, in practice, almost all of our email is handled by entities who are only giving us access to an account that they own. We agreed to their terms, and they are free to change those terms. Yet it is absolutely within our reach to switch over to a world where all email is encrypted, and sent to personal mail servers, making our email 'ours' once again. perhaps. However the linked operating systems exchange your IP. So your 'contacts' would be an open book. (and a cray could decript the mail) Its true that encrypted email can be decrypted, but decryption is expensive. If you encrypt all of your correspondence, then the DHS or FBI will be wasting a lot of their computation power just to see your favorite lolcats. If we encrypt all of our email, we make it unlikely that the government will pry into our business unless they really think they have cause to, because they won't want to waste their time/money. Its like locking your door. Anyone who really wants to get in can still get in. We just discourage casual violations of our privacy/security. |
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Setting up a server that helps people communicate without being censored is not hard:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet ISPs generally don't care whether you are hosting a server, they only care if you are eating up lots of bandwidth. |
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Run your own email server and use PGP.
Done. |
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ISPs generally don't care whether you are hosting a server, they only care if you are eating up lots of bandwidth. That's what I meant when I said it's frowned upon, because of the bandwidth usage. I think PGP sold out to the government, not sure though. |
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