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Topic: Wikipedia Protest: Websites Plan Jan 18 Shutdown Over SOPA
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Tue 01/17/12 06:27 PM
January 17, 2012 By Dan Lohrmann

Just when you thought you’ve seen it all online …. Along comes something else that’s new and raises plenty of serious tough questions.
On January 18, 2012, Wikipedia and a long list of other popular websites will go dark to protest the proposed Stop Online Privacy Act (SOPA). The Internet is full of stories on this topic. USA Today ran a front page story covering the fast-approaching event. Here’s an excerpt:
“Mozilla, Word Press and TwitPic have joined a growing list of websites that plan to go dark Wednesday to protest the proposed Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect Intellectual Property Act, CBS News reports….
Wikipedia, Reddit and Boing Boing have already announced that they plan to go offline Wednesday.
Jimmy Wales, co-founder of Wikipedia, tweeted: ‘All US Citizens: #WikipediaBlackout means nothing unless you call your Senators. Do it now! Give friends the number too!’"
We’ve seen Cyber Sit-ins, hackers shutting down and slowing down websites and even a website dedicated to starting a cyber protest of your choice, but this may be even more disruptive.
Without taking sides, here are just some of the tough questions that this protest raises:
1) Have we put too much trust in Wikipedia and these other websites for educational or other purposes?
2) Where are the lines for websites shutting down to protest new or proposed government regulation or any other issue in society?
3) What can customers do to prepare for these disruptions?
4) Will these protests help or hurt the chances for this legislation to pass?
5) Does this set a dangerous precedent for others websites and/or causes?
One thing seems certain: cyber protests are here to stay. I certainly expect to see more online activity like this. It will be very interesting to see how the public reacts.
What are your thoughts? Is this a good way to protest SOPA, or a big mistake for Wikipedia and others?


http://www.govtech.com/blogs/lohrmann-on-cybersecurity/Wikipedia-Protest-Websites-Plan-011712.html

Lpdon's photo
Tue 01/17/12 10:00 PM
Damnit, I love Wikipedia. Also Craigslist is dark too.

s1owhand's photo
Tue 01/17/12 10:52 PM
I go to the library.

drinker

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/17/12 11:20 PM

January 17, 2012 By Dan Lohrmann

Just when you thought you’ve seen it all online …. Along comes something else that’s new and raises plenty of serious tough questions.
On January 18, 2012, Wikipedia and a long list of other popular websites will go dark to protest the proposed Stop Online Privacy Act (SOPA). The Internet is full of stories on this topic. USA Today ran a front page story covering the fast-approaching event. Here’s an excerpt:
“Mozilla, Word Press and TwitPic have joined a growing list of websites that plan to go dark Wednesday to protest the proposed Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect Intellectual Property Act, CBS News reports….
Wikipedia, Reddit and Boing Boing have already announced that they plan to go offline Wednesday.
Jimmy Wales, co-founder of Wikipedia, tweeted: ‘All US Citizens: #WikipediaBlackout means nothing unless you call your Senators. Do it now! Give friends the number too!’"
We’ve seen Cyber Sit-ins, hackers shutting down and slowing down websites and even a website dedicated to starting a cyber protest of your choice, but this may be even more disruptive.
Without taking sides, here are just some of the tough questions that this protest raises:
1) Have we put too much trust in Wikipedia and these other websites for educational or other purposes?
2) Where are the lines for websites shutting down to protest new or proposed government regulation or any other issue in society?
3) What can customers do to prepare for these disruptions?
4) Will these protests help or hurt the chances for this legislation to pass?
5) Does this set a dangerous precedent for others websites and/or causes?
One thing seems certain: cyber protests are here to stay. I certainly expect to see more online activity like this. It will be very interesting to see how the public reacts.
What are your thoughts? Is this a good way to protest SOPA, or a big mistake for Wikipedia and others?


http://www.govtech.com/blogs/lohrmann-on-cybersecurity/Wikipedia-Protest-Websites-Plan-011712.html



way too many alternatives for it to do much but cost them money

also hella ironic to 'protest' alleged potential censorship by censoring themself so completely

smart2009's photo
Tue 01/17/12 11:32 PM

I go to the library.

drinker

laugh drinker

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 01/18/12 12:55 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Learn_more

What exactly is Wikipedia doing?

Wikipedia is protesting against SOPA and PIPA by blacking out the English Wikipedia for 24 hours, beginning at midnight January 18, Eastern Time. Readers who come to English Wikipedia during the blackout will not be able to read the encyclopedia: instead, they will see messages intended to raise awareness about SOPA and PIPA, and encouraging them to share their views with their elected representatives, and via social media.

Why is this happening?

Nothing like this has ever happened before on the English Wikipedia. Wikipedians have chosen to black out the English Wikipedia for the first time ever, because we are concerned that SOPA and PIPA will severely inhibit people's access to online information. This is not a problem that will solely affect people in the United States: it will affect everyone around the world.

Why? SOPA and PIPA are badly drafted legislation that won't be effective in their main goal (to stop copyright infringement), and will cause serious damage to the free and open Internet. They put the burden on website owners to police user-contributed material and call for the unnecessary blocking of entire sites. Small sites won't have sufficient resources to defend themselves. Big media companies may seek to cut off funding sources for their foreign competitors, even if copyright isn't being infringed. Foreign sites will be blacklisted, which means they won't show up in major search engines. And, SOPA and PIPA build a framework for future restrictions and suppression.
More.................

Ladylid2012's photo
Wed 01/18/12 02:27 AM
This is extreme measures for an extreme situation.
These laws CAN NOT be passed....

Like the op says. : ‘All US Citizens: #WikipediaBlackout means nothing unless you call your Senators. Do it now! Give friends the number too!’"

The entertainment industry can suck it.

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/18/12 07:11 AM
this reminds me of the 'death panel' controversy,,,

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Wed 01/18/12 07:35 AM
1. Not just wikipedia, people have put too much faith in the internet itself.

2. Who cares, let them shut down.

3. Go to the library, read a book, ask an elder.

4. It shouldn't hurt, but will it? Who knows. Let me see what Wikipedia says.......

5. Only if this one actually has an effect, which, it shouldn't Let them go 'dark'. Maybe people will realize that instead of relying on stuff a 5-year old wrote on the internet; maybe I should just find out. The encyclopedia and dictionary were originally made for a reason.

I read on the internet yesterday that King James was a Jew.
Adam Sandler was born in Poland.
..and Dolly Parton had AID's in the 80's, but was cured completely.


Riiiighhttt...

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/18/12 07:38 AM

1. Not just wikipedia, people have put too much faith in the internet itself.

2. Who cares, let them shut down.

3. Go to the library, read a book, ask an elder.

4. It shouldn't hurt, but will it? Who knows. Let me see what Wikipedia says.......

5. Only if this one actually has an effect, which, it shouldn't Let them go 'dark'. Maybe people will realize that instead of relying on stuff a 5-year old wrote on the internet; maybe I should just find out. The encyclopedia and dictionary were originally made for a reason.

I read on the internet yesterday that King James was a Jew.
Adam Sandler was born in Poland.
..and Dolly Parton had AID's in the 80's, but was cured completely.


Riiiighhttt...



lol....

libraries, the new dinosaur,, unfortunately

everything has to be at our fingertips and instant and we believe it as quickly as they put it out,,,,,with little need for balance, common sense, experience, or research

dont believe me,,,, see how many things are posted to these threads from emails that a mere comparison between two or three factchecking sites like snopes or factcheck org or urban legends, could easily disclose were mere unproven or untrue gossip,,,

now THATS truly scary to me, in this instant age of 'enlightenment' the internet and cable have brought us,,,

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Wed 01/18/12 08:13 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Wed 01/18/12 08:15 AM


1. Not just wikipedia, people have put too much faith in the internet itself.

2. Who cares, let them shut down.

3. Go to the library, read a book, ask an elder.

4. It shouldn't hurt, but will it? Who knows. Let me see what Wikipedia says.......

5. Only if this one actually has an effect, which, it shouldn't Let them go 'dark'. Maybe people will realize that instead of relying on stuff a 5-year old wrote on the internet; maybe I should just find out. The encyclopedia and dictionary were originally made for a reason.

I read on the internet yesterday that King James was a Jew.
Adam Sandler was born in Poland.
..and Dolly Parton had AID's in the 80's, but was cured completely.


Riiiighhttt...



lol....

libraries, the new dinosaur,, unfortunately

everything has to be at our fingertips and instant and we believe it as quickly as they put it out,,,,,with little need for balance, common sense, experience, or research

dont believe me,,,, see how many things are posted to these threads from emails that a mere comparison between two or three factchecking sites like snopes or factcheck org or urban legends, could easily disclose were mere unproven or untrue gossip,,,

now THATS truly scary to me, in this instant age of 'enlightenment' the internet and cable have brought us,,,
Its funny becuase those sites you listed provide source data . . . data is data, how one uses data, how one sources data is up to the user, honesty isn't inherent in any system of communication, why assume a book has valid data?

The internet is a tool, it has provided for the amazing developments that we take for granted, and yet here you are making light of the benefit humanity has achieved from a free and open communication system.

Honestly shame should be the reaction of anyone who takes lightly the censorship of this amazing tool to advance mankind out of infancy.

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Wed 01/18/12 09:06 AM
We are one in the universe. We are all connected.

Therefore, information belongs to everyone.

Just because a person rewrites it, reproduces it, copies it, passes it on, people call that "plagiarism" or copyright violation.

People are selfish egomaniacs.

Steve Pavlinia writes and have made thousands with his blog Personal Development for Smart People and he recently put all his writings into public domain.

He is a highly spiritual person.

http://www.stevepavlina.com/

Releasing his copyrights

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2010/12/releasing-my-copyrights/

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 01/18/12 09:11 AM
The MPAA Says Blackout Protests Are an Abuse of Power

The MPAA Says Blackout Protests Are an Abuse of PowerTomorrow huge sites like Wikipedia and Reddit will "blackout" in protest of SOPA, and the MPAA doesn't like the behavior of these "technology business interests"one bit.

The statement comes down from none other than MPAA Chairman and former Senator from Connecticut Chris Dodd:

It is an irresponsible response and a disservice to people who rely on them for information and use their services. It is also an abuse of power given the freedoms these companies enjoy in the marketplace today. It's a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests.

Even if this is really only an obligatory posturing statement from the monolithic organization, it's almost laughably heavy-handed and hyperbolic. As private enterprises, Wikipedia and Reddit have the right to exercise free speech the same way as anyone else. More importantly, though, it's awfully brazen of the MPAA to accuse the sites of inhibiting access to information when SOPA is essentially a pro-censorship bill.


Now I have heard it all!slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead shocked


http://gizmodo.com/5876984/the-mpaa-says-blackout-protests-are-an-abuse-of-power

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Wed 01/18/12 09:19 AM

The MPAA Says Blackout Protests Are an Abuse of Power

The MPAA Says Blackout Protests Are an Abuse of PowerTomorrow huge sites like Wikipedia and Reddit will "blackout" in protest of SOPA, and the MPAA doesn't like the behavior of these "technology business interests"one bit.

The statement comes down from none other than MPAA Chairman and former Senator from Connecticut Chris Dodd:

It is an irresponsible response and a disservice to people who rely on them for information and use their services. It is also an abuse of power given the freedoms these companies enjoy in the marketplace today. It's a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests.

Even if this is really only an obligatory posturing statement from the monolithic organization, it's almost laughably heavy-handed and hyperbolic. As private enterprises, Wikipedia and Reddit have the right to exercise free speech the same way as anyone else. More importantly, though, it's awfully brazen of the MPAA to accuse the sites of inhibiting access to information when SOPA is essentially a pro-censorship bill.


Now I have heard it all!slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead shocked


http://gizmodo.com/5876984/the-mpaa-says-blackout-protests-are-an-abuse-of-power



laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

I think people are getting idiotic. If Wikipedia wants to shut down the site permanently they have a perfect right to do so.

laugh laugh laugh

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/18/12 05:29 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 01/18/12 05:30 PM



1. Not just wikipedia, people have put too much faith in the internet itself.

2. Who cares, let them shut down.

3. Go to the library, read a book, ask an elder.

4. It shouldn't hurt, but will it? Who knows. Let me see what Wikipedia says.......

5. Only if this one actually has an effect, which, it shouldn't Let them go 'dark'. Maybe people will realize that instead of relying on stuff a 5-year old wrote on the internet; maybe I should just find out. The encyclopedia and dictionary were originally made for a reason.

I read on the internet yesterday that King James was a Jew.
Adam Sandler was born in Poland.
..and Dolly Parton had AID's in the 80's, but was cured completely.


Riiiighhttt...



lol....

libraries, the new dinosaur,, unfortunately

everything has to be at our fingertips and instant and we believe it as quickly as they put it out,,,,,with little need for balance, common sense, experience, or research

dont believe me,,,, see how many things are posted to these threads from emails that a mere comparison between two or three factchecking sites like snopes or factcheck org or urban legends, could easily disclose were mere unproven or untrue gossip,,,

now THATS truly scary to me, in this instant age of 'enlightenment' the internet and cable have brought us,,,
Its funny becuase those sites you listed provide source data . . . data is data, how one uses data, how one sources data is up to the user, honesty isn't inherent in any system of communication, why assume a book has valid data?

The internet is a tool, it has provided for the amazing developments that we take for granted, and yet here you are making light of the benefit humanity has achieved from a free and open communication system.

Honestly shame should be the reaction of anyone who takes lightly the censorship of this amazing tool to advance mankind out of infancy.


what, specifically, are some of the amazing developments that stem from the internet?


when I think of infancy, I think of the flip side , maturity.


We disagree , if you believe that we have become more mature in ANY way since the internet became popular,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/18/12 05:33 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 01/18/12 05:35 PM

We are one in the universe. We are all connected.

Therefore, information belongs to everyone.

Just because a person rewrites it, reproduces it, copies it, passes it on, people call that "plagiarism" or copyright violation.

People are selfish egomaniacs.

Steve Pavlinia writes and have made thousands with his blog Personal Development for Smart People and he recently put all his writings into public domain.

He is a highly spiritual person.

http://www.stevepavlina.com/

Releasing his copyrights

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2010/12/releasing-my-copyrights/



information belongs to everyone if the SOURCE of the information wishes to share it,,,

I Have lived many moments and I have the information and detail about those moments, but just because this information exists doesnt mean I wish EVERYONE to have it or that sharing it with one person should cause me to be open to sharing it with EVERYONE


I write music, and if I publish or have music manufactured, that costs me money ,,someone else doesnt have the right to come in and make the money off of what MY investment of time and money was,,,

I dont consider that egomaniacal , I consider that being paid for effort and being able to recoup costs , someone that didnt make that investment or that effort shouldnt be equally free to benefit from it

information belongs to everyone if its source agrees AND if those other persons arent making money off of it exclusively without SHARING the profit from that information,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 01/18/12 05:37 PM




1. Not just wikipedia, people have put too much faith in the internet itself.

2. Who cares, let them shut down.

3. Go to the library, read a book, ask an elder.

4. It shouldn't hurt, but will it? Who knows. Let me see what Wikipedia says.......

5. Only if this one actually has an effect, which, it shouldn't Let them go 'dark'. Maybe people will realize that instead of relying on stuff a 5-year old wrote on the internet; maybe I should just find out. The encyclopedia and dictionary were originally made for a reason.

I read on the internet yesterday that King James was a Jew.
Adam Sandler was born in Poland.
..and Dolly Parton had AID's in the 80's, but was cured completely.


Riiiighhttt...



lol....

libraries, the new dinosaur,, unfortunately

everything has to be at our fingertips and instant and we believe it as quickly as they put it out,,,,,with little need for balance, common sense, experience, or research

dont believe me,,,, see how many things are posted to these threads from emails that a mere comparison between two or three factchecking sites like snopes or factcheck org or urban legends, could easily disclose were mere unproven or untrue gossip,,,

now THATS truly scary to me, in this instant age of 'enlightenment' the internet and cable have brought us,,,
Its funny becuase those sites you listed provide source data . . . data is data, how one uses data, how one sources data is up to the user, honesty isn't inherent in any system of communication, why assume a book has valid data?

The internet is a tool, it has provided for the amazing developments that we take for granted, and yet here you are making light of the benefit humanity has achieved from a free and open communication system.

Honestly shame should be the reaction of anyone who takes lightly the censorship of this amazing tool to advance mankind out of infancy.


what, specifically, are some of the amazing developments that stem from the internet?


when I think of infancy, I think of the flip side , maturity.


We disagree , if you believe that we have become more mature in ANY way since the internet became popular,,,


A broader range of personal interaction and sharing of ideas.....and Mingle!

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/18/12 05:39 PM
as much as I love mingle, I dont think being able to have a bigger cyber social circle has brought us out of infancy

its just made us feel less dependent upon real life interaction,,,

Seakolony's photo
Wed 01/18/12 05:46 PM
I love the Library. I go twice a week at least.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 01/18/12 05:55 PM

as much as I love mingle, I dont think being able to have a bigger cyber social circle has brought us out of infancy

its just made us feel less dependent upon real life interaction,,,


Was just checking email for appts but had to comment on this issue!

Dispite any "advantages or disadvantages" to the interent, that is HARDLY the issue here!

The issue is another freedom we enjoy, another ability we have to share information (with or without bias) between peoples to formulate their OWN OPINIONS from, is under threat! Without it all you have are media pundents feeding us information THEY deem as suitable for human consumption!

Sure you can read a book for info.... 1 or 2 years AFTER the fact!

With the world in the shape it is in..... how long are you willing to wait for vital information that is NOT given by some paid for, biased, media pundent?

jmo

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