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Topic: WHAT IS THE TRINITY ?
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Sun 01/15/12 03:32 PM



Funches, notice the verse right BEFORE Jeremiah 1:5 :


Jeremiah 1:4

Now the WORD OF THE LORD came to me SAYING,


Jeremiah 1:5

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; and before you came

forth out of the womb I sanctified you, and I ordained you a

prophet unto the nations ...


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what's your point?

the passage is saying that Jeremiah existed before he was created in the womb ......this means that Jermaiah can also say the same thing Jesus said... "before Abraham I Am"

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Sun 01/15/12 03:34 PM




Funches, notice the verse right BEFORE Jeremiah 1:5 :


Jeremiah 1:4

Now the WORD OF THE LORD came to me SAYING,


Jeremiah 1:5

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; and before you came

forth out of the womb I sanctified you, and I ordained you a

prophet unto the nations ...


:heart::heart::heart:


Because Jesus is our God, he is the one whom created us.


Cowboy...only Adam was created.... you were born ...

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Sun 01/15/12 04:58 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Sun 01/15/12 05:12 PM
Thruout scriptures....

God the Father is referred to as Lord God.

Jesus is also referred to as Lord God...and because all Glory is

given by the Father to the Son now, Jesus is also LORD

OVER ALL.


The Father is referred to as Jehovah..

The Son is also referred to as Jehovah in scriptures...


That's because The Father and Son(and also the Holy Spirit ) is ONE GOD.

ALL things were Created BY the Father THROUGH the Son(Word ),

while The Holy Spirit MOVED.


God The Father ORCHESTRATED , Jesus( The Word) CREATED, and

the Holy Spirit MOVED.



Again, The Father , The Son, and The Holy Spirit were

involved in creation...and the Father, Son,and Holy Spirit ARE ONE GOD .

There is ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY (ONE ENTITY) .




:heart::heart::heart:

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Sun 01/15/12 05:23 PM





Funches, notice the verse right BEFORE Jeremiah 1:5 :


Jeremiah 1:4

Now the WORD OF THE LORD came to me SAYING,


Jeremiah 1:5

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; and before you came

forth out of the womb I sanctified you, and I ordained you a

prophet unto the nations ...


:heart::heart::heart:


Because Jesus is our God, he is the one whom created us.


Cowboy...only Adam was created.... you were born ...




God finished creating on the sixth day of creation

and rested on the seventh day.

But God made All to reproduce after it's own kind.

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Sun 01/15/12 05:38 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Sun 01/15/12 05:54 PM




Funches, notice the verse right BEFORE Jeremiah 1:5 :


Jeremiah 1:4

Now the WORD OF THE LORD came to me SAYING,


Jeremiah 1:5

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; and before you came

forth out of the womb I sanctified you, and I ordained you a

prophet unto the nations ...


:heart::heart::heart:


what's your point?

the passage is saying that Jeremiah existed before he was created in the womb ......this means that Jermaiah can also say the same thing Jesus said... "before Abraham I Am"


The passage is saying that God KNEW Jeremiah, before

God even formed him in the womb.....before Jeremiah existed yet.


Basically, this scripture is saying that God is eternal and

IS outside of Time and KNOWS ALL things....God

knows the end from the beginnning and the beginning from the

end....



Another scripture says that God was slain from the very

foundations of the world...

again...that is because

God exists outside of Time..... God is eternal....God is The Alpha

and The Omega...God IS the the beginning and the end....




:heart::heart::heart:

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Sun 01/15/12 05:56 PM

God The Father ORCHESTRATED , Jesus( The Word) CREATED, and

the Holy Spirit MOVED.


in Christianity The Father is the creator not the orchestrator,you keep trying to take away the power of the father and give it to Jesus and thereby place Jesus higher than the Father which is yet another taboo in Christianity


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Sun 01/15/12 06:01 PM

.and the Father, Son,and Holy Spirit ARE ONE GOD .

There is ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY (ONE ENTITY) .



so that would mean that when Jesus died there was a three day period when no God existed ....

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Sun 01/15/12 06:08 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Sun 01/15/12 06:14 PM


God The Father ORCHESTRATED , Jesus( The Word) CREATED, and

the Holy Spirit MOVED.


in Christianity The Father is the creator not the orchestrator,you keep trying to take away the power of the father and give it to Jesus and thereby place Jesus higher than the Father which is yet another taboo in Christianity




Jesus is not higher in position..the Father is

positionally first....and the postions do NOT change ever ...

but The Father and Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit are co-

equally God....

And are ONE GOD.

Even though The Father gave all Glory to the Son now, still do not

change their positions .


:heart::heart::heart:

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Sun 01/15/12 06:31 PM

Jesus is not higher in position..the Father is

positionally first....and the postions do NOT change ever ...

but The Father and Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit are co-

equally God....

And are ONE GOD.

Even though The Father gave all Glory to the Son now, still do not

change their positions .


:heart::heart::heart:


if they are all equal then why must The Father be positioned first?

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Sun 01/15/12 06:32 PM


.and the Father, Son,and Holy Spirit ARE ONE GOD .

There is ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY (ONE ENTITY) .



so that would mean that when Jesus died there was a three day period when no God existed ....


Remember....Jesus was fully God as well as fully man.


Jesus died on that cross...he gave his LIFE for us...his

blood was shed for us (there is life in the blood )....

however,his spirit did not die...just like when we die, our

body dies but our spirit does not die....it goes on....



but after Jesus DIED, on the third day He ROSE AGAIN

(ressurrected ) from the dead..and ASCENDED into heaven...



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Sun 01/15/12 06:33 PM

Even though The Father gave all Glory to the Son now, still do not

change their positions .


so are you saying that the Father no longer have any glory?

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Sun 01/15/12 06:36 PM

Remember....Jesus was fully God as well as fully man.


but remember God is supposedly all-knowing...but yet Jesus didn't know the time of Judgement Day ....

so can you explain how he could be fully God if he was not omniscient....

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Sun 01/15/12 06:38 PM


Jesus is not higher in position..the Father is

positionally first....and the postions do NOT change ever ...

but The Father and Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit are co-

equally God....

And are ONE GOD.

Even though The Father gave all Glory to the Son now, still do not

change their positions .


:heart::heart::heart:


if they are all equal then why must The Father be positioned first?



There is ORDER in The Godhead.. the positions of God

the Father being first, the Son Jesus being Second, and the Holy

Spirit being third, does not in any way, take away from The

Father,Son,and Holy Spirit being EQUALLY GOD.

God is a God of ORDER, not chaos.

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Sun 01/15/12 06:40 PM

.but after Jesus DIED, on the third day He ROSE AGAIN

(ressurrected ) from the dead..and ASCENDED into heaven...



so wouldn't that mean that when Jesus died no God existed for three days?

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Sun 01/15/12 06:42 PM



Jesus is not higher in position..the Father is

positionally first....and the postions do NOT change ever ...

but The Father and Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit are co-

equally God....

And are ONE GOD.

Even though The Father gave all Glory to the Son now, still do not

change their positions .


:heart::heart::heart:


if they are all equal then why must The Father be positioned first?



There is ORDER in The Godhead.. the positions of God

the Father being first, the Son Jesus being Second, and the Holy

Spirit being third, does not in any way, take away from The

Father,Son,and Holy Spirit being EQUALLY GOD.

God is a God of ORDER, not chaos.



if they are all equal then why would it be choas if the Holy Spirit was placed in first position

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Sun 01/15/12 06:45 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Sun 01/15/12 06:45 PM
Funches My friend.....

Pick up that bible.

READ.


The Logos (written word) on the pages of that Bible have

LIFE in them.

Power.

That is why it is called the

Living Word .

But

the LIFE IN THE WORD will not do you any good, unless you pick

up and READ, and therefore, allow the Word ENTRANCE .

Amen?



flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

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Sun 01/15/12 06:46 PM


But God made All to reproduce after it's own kind.



in this case...after it own kind... refers to having sex with relatives


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Sun 01/15/12 06:51 PM


.but after Jesus DIED, on the third day He ROSE AGAIN

(ressurrected ) from the dead..and ASCENDED into heaven...



so wouldn't that mean that when Jesus died no God existed for three days?



God is able to be everywhere at all times...along

with a whole host of other attributes..


God the Son died...not God the Father or God the Holy Spirit...

To fully understan it all, we will have to wait til we get to

heaven, Funches...:wink:

Goodnite now, Funches....be blessed....sleep well.....


:heart::heart::heart:

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Sun 01/15/12 06:51 PM

Funches My friend.....

Pick up that bible.

READ.


The Logos (written word) on the pages of that Bible have

LIFE in them.

Power.

That is why it is called the

Living Word .

But

the LIFE IN THE WORD will not do you any good, unless you pick

up and READ, and therefore, allow the Word ENTRANCE .

Amen?



flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou


that's why I've asked you those questions because I've read the bible and didn't find anything in it that you are talking about

in the bible I've read God is supposedly this omnipotent entity ...but you have him getting nailed to a cross, dying for three days, claiming that he gave away all his glory, calling him a person(s),etc.

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Sun 01/15/12 06:58 PM
Start with the book of John.

Go to God (not man) ,and Ask God to open up Your understasnding of

His Word.


He will.

God has plans for you ,Funches.

Nite now.



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