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No fallen man is my God. Only Jesus Christ the risen king. the fact that he had to rise means that he did Fall first No, only your misunderstanding and misconstruing of words. didn't you claim that Jesus was in hell for three days...did he stay there?.... or was he risen from Hell as a demon would be |
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There is only one lord thy God, and that is Jesus Christ. If someone worships another being as their lord and God, they are worshiping a false God, for there is only one.
BUT Cowboy, here is where the ERROR comers in: you DON'T believe The Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is ONE ENTITY!!! or ONE SUPREME BEING !! Yes... you believe Jesus is the Lord Thy God, BUY you believe Jesus is a totally separate ENTITY from God the FATHER!!! You believe The Father,Son, and Holy Sprit are One God,ONLY as a government!! In other words, You do NOT believe The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is ONE SUPREME BEING...or ONE ENTITY!!! And This incorrect belief on your part, is exactly what hinders you from truly becoming saved!! You have to believe The REAL Jesus in order to become saved. And salvatiom will come ONLY when God first draws you and convicts you of the TRUTH !!! But God also works thru his body to get your attention !! |
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No fallen man is my God. Only Jesus Christ the risen king. the fact that he had to rise means that he did Fall first No, only your misunderstanding and misconstruing of words. didn't you claim that Jesus was in hell for three days...did he stay there?.... or was he risen from Hell as a demon would be He has defeated death and has risen to heaven. |
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Jesus taught more then the 10 commandments. He taught 613 to be exact. But these two sum up entirely all of Jesus' commandments. Matthew 22 37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. you claim that Jesus had 613 teachings but yet you only follow the two that generally every religion requires their believers to follow...you may as worship Satan he requires his followers to do the same Jesus said if you love me you will obey me....following only 2 of his 613 teachings is clearly not a sign of Love What other laws did Jesus give that is not followed when following these two? if all it took was to follow two...then he wouldn't have had 613 of them ... all i'm saying is that someone that claim that they loved Jesus and claim that he is their Savior and God would follow more than two of his teachings since you believe in the Trinity at least try for three oops thats right..according to Christian math...3 only equal to one ok you probably have to shoot for 9 teachings the 613 is in depth detail about what we are to do and what we are not to do. If you love thy neighbor as thyself you will not lie to them, you will not steal from them, you will not hurt or harm them in anyway and much more. If you love the lord thy God with all your heart soul, mind and body, you will not curse him, you will not obey a false gospel, you will not worship a false God. Cowboy.. I believe you are trying or u would not be on here so much. But if you really believe what you just said.. What gives you the right to change and proclaim a name the Messiah never had?..Blessings..Miles And what exactly are you taking about? I changed no name of anything. I don't give him another name. Names are different when translated from one language to another. In English someone's name may be Gregory, but in Spanish it's Gregorio. No thier not.. Tell me one famous leader that we say thier name differently than it sounds in thier own language? Yes they are. "Yeshua" is of Hewbrew origin, "Jesus" is of Greek origin. Both interpretations is referring to the same being, Jesus Christ our Lord and savior. I highly doubt Jesus really cares what translation one uses, what would be the difference? Still referring to the same being, still using the same name just in two different forms/translations. who says? You.. NetanYahu. Mikel Gorbachev.. Those are foriegn to our language.. yet we say them in thier language. No one in the world calls Obama a different name.. Names are sounds.. TONGUES ARE A SOUND.. Transliteration is different than translating. American Heritage Dictionary: trans·lit·er·ate Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionary(trăns-lĭt'ə-rāt', trănz-) tr.v., -at·ed, -at·ing, -ates. To represent (letters or words) in the corresponding characters of another alphabet. American Heritage Dictionary: trans·late AdsTranslate | DictionaryBoss.com Translate Text to Dozens of Foreign Languages - Simple & Always Free! www.dictionaryboss.com Free Translation | Translator.Inbox.com Easily Translate Words & Phrases With New Free Translator Toolbar! translator.inbox.com Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionary (trăns'lāt', trănz'-, trăns-lāt', trănz-) v., -lat·ed, -lat·ing, -lates. v.tr. 1.To render in another language. 2. a.To put into simpler terms; explain or interpret. b.To express in different words; paraphrase. 3. a.To change from one form, function, or state to another; convert or transform: translate ideas into reality. b.To express in another medium. 4.To transfer from one place or condition to another. 5.To forward or retransmit (a telegraphic message). 6. a.Ecclesiastical. To transfer (a bishop) to another see. b.To convey to heaven without death. 7.Physics. To subject (a body) to translation. 8.Biology. To subject (messenger RNA) to translation. 9.Archaic. To enrapture. Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/translate#ixzz1kPWSIk7b To Translate a language and to Transliterate a Name are to different things altogether. Who says we can give the one name under heaven another sound as in name? If someone was to say my name is Gregorio, they would not be lying. In the spanish translation of my name Gregory, it is Gregorio. Names don't change meaning because they change language. See chr-stian teach Jc but really these verses they prove mean nothing to them Acts 4:11-12 11 This is the 'stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.' 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." NKJV Rev 22:18-19 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, Yahweh will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, Yahweh shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. NKJV These words mean nothing then.. You can do whatever you want.. Yahweh and Yahshua point to who the creator is.. If you say who is the creator in Mecca.. they will say Allah. In the far east maybe Budda or Vishnu. By what you say since names meaning to the person is different in thier language.. then any name for the creator is True |
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No fallen man is my God. Only Jesus Christ the risen king. the fact that he had to rise means that he did Fall first No, only your misunderstanding and misconstruing of words. didn't you claim that Jesus was in hell for three days...did he stay there?.... or was he risen from Hell as a demon would be He has defeated death and has risen to heaven. so wouldn't that mean that he fell into Hell first..that he was at first a fallen man |
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Cowboy wrote: There is only one lord thy God, and that is Jesus Christ. If someone worships another being as their lord and God, they are worshiping a false God, for there is only one.
BUT Cowboy, here is where the ERROR comers in: you DON'T believe The Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is ONE ENTITY!!! or ONE SUPREME BEING !! Yes... you believe Jesus is the Lord Thy God, BUY you believe Jesus is a totally separate ENTITY from God the FATHER!!! You believe The father,Son, and Holy Sprit are One God,ONLY as a government!! In other words, You do NOT believe The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is ONE SUPREME BEING...or ONE ENTITY!!! And This incorrect belief on your part, is exactly what hinders you from truly becoming saved!! You have to believe The REAL Jesus in order to become saved. And salvatiom will come ONLY when God first draws you and convicts you of the TRUTH !!! But God also works thru his body to get your attention !! BUT Cowboy, here is where the ERROR comers in: you DON'T believe The Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is ONE ENTITY!!! or ONE SUPREME BEING !! John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Was WITH God. The Word eg., Jesus was with God eg., his father. Was God eg., our God. That is why Jesus yelled out my god, my god. If they were all one entity, they would not separate the three. Would just say "God" or some generic term for all three. Matthew 28:19 19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: |
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Jesus taught more then the 10 commandments. He taught 613 to be exact. But these two sum up entirely all of Jesus' commandments. Matthew 22 37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. you claim that Jesus had 613 teachings but yet you only follow the two that generally every religion requires their believers to follow...you may as worship Satan he requires his followers to do the same Jesus said if you love me you will obey me....following only 2 of his 613 teachings is clearly not a sign of Love What other laws did Jesus give that is not followed when following these two? if all it took was to follow two...then he wouldn't have had 613 of them ... all i'm saying is that someone that claim that they loved Jesus and claim that he is their Savior and God would follow more than two of his teachings since you believe in the Trinity at least try for three oops thats right..according to Christian math...3 only equal to one ok you probably have to shoot for 9 teachings the 613 is in depth detail about what we are to do and what we are not to do. If you love thy neighbor as thyself you will not lie to them, you will not steal from them, you will not hurt or harm them in anyway and much more. If you love the lord thy God with all your heart soul, mind and body, you will not curse him, you will not obey a false gospel, you will not worship a false God. Cowboy.. I believe you are trying or u would not be on here so much. But if you really believe what you just said.. What gives you the right to change and proclaim a name the Messiah never had?..Blessings..Miles And what exactly are you taking about? I changed no name of anything. I don't give him another name. Names are different when translated from one language to another. In English someone's name may be Gregory, but in Spanish it's Gregorio. No thier not.. Tell me one famous leader that we say thier name differently than it sounds in thier own language? Yes they are. "Yeshua" is of Hewbrew origin, "Jesus" is of Greek origin. Both interpretations is referring to the same being, Jesus Christ our Lord and savior. I highly doubt Jesus really cares what translation one uses, what would be the difference? Still referring to the same being, still using the same name just in two different forms/translations. who says? You.. NetanYahu. Mikel Gorbachev.. Those are foriegn to our language.. yet we say them in thier language. No one in the world calls Obama a different name.. Names are sounds.. TONGUES ARE A SOUND.. Transliteration is different than translating. American Heritage Dictionary: trans·lit·er·ate Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionary(trăns-lĭt'ə-rāt', trănz-) tr.v., -at·ed, -at·ing, -ates. To represent (letters or words) in the corresponding characters of another alphabet. American Heritage Dictionary: trans·late AdsTranslate | DictionaryBoss.com Translate Text to Dozens of Foreign Languages - Simple & Always Free! www.dictionaryboss.com Free Translation | Translator.Inbox.com Easily Translate Words & Phrases With New Free Translator Toolbar! translator.inbox.com Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionary (trăns'lāt', trănz'-, trăns-lāt', trănz-) v., -lat·ed, -lat·ing, -lates. v.tr. 1.To render in another language. 2. a.To put into simpler terms; explain or interpret. b.To express in different words; paraphrase. 3. a.To change from one form, function, or state to another; convert or transform: translate ideas into reality. b.To express in another medium. 4.To transfer from one place or condition to another. 5.To forward or retransmit (a telegraphic message). 6. a.Ecclesiastical. To transfer (a bishop) to another see. b.To convey to heaven without death. 7.Physics. To subject (a body) to translation. 8.Biology. To subject (messenger RNA) to translation. 9.Archaic. To enrapture. Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/translate#ixzz1kPWSIk7b To Translate a language and to Transliterate a Name are to different things altogether. Who says we can give the one name under heaven another sound as in name? If someone was to say my name is Gregorio, they would not be lying. In the spanish translation of my name Gregory, it is Gregorio. Names don't change meaning because they change language. See chr-stian teach Jc but really these verses they prove mean nothing to them Acts 4:11-12 11 This is the 'stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.' 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." NKJV Rev 22:18-19 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, Yahweh will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, Yahweh shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. NKJV These words mean nothing then.. You can do whatever you want.. Yahweh and Yahshua point to who the creator is.. If you say who is the creator in Mecca.. they will say Allah. In the far east maybe Budda or Vishnu. By what you say since names meaning to the person is different in thier language.. then any name for the creator is True Acts 4:11-12 11 This is the 'stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.' 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. What are you talking about? Different translations don't make it different names. The name Gregory and Gregorio are the SAME NAME in two different languages, but still the same name. |
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Jesus taught more then the 10 commandments. He taught 613 to be exact. But these two sum up entirely all of Jesus' commandments. Matthew 22 37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. you claim that Jesus had 613 teachings but yet you only follow the two that generally every religion requires their believers to follow...you may as worship Satan he requires his followers to do the same Jesus said if you love me you will obey me....following only 2 of his 613 teachings is clearly not a sign of Love What other laws did Jesus give that is not followed when following these two? if all it took was to follow two...then he wouldn't have had 613 of them ... all i'm saying is that someone that claim that they loved Jesus and claim that he is their Savior and God would follow more than two of his teachings since you believe in the Trinity at least try for three oops thats right..according to Christian math...3 only equal to one ok you probably have to shoot for 9 teachings the 613 is in depth detail about what we are to do and what we are not to do. If you love thy neighbor as thyself you will not lie to them, you will not steal from them, you will not hurt or harm them in anyway and much more. If you love the lord thy God with all your heart soul, mind and body, you will not curse him, you will not obey a false gospel, you will not worship a false God. Cowboy.. I believe you are trying or u would not be on here so much. But if you really believe what you just said.. What gives you the right to change and proclaim a name the Messiah never had?..Blessings..Miles And what exactly are you taking about? I changed no name of anything. I don't give him another name. Names are different when translated from one language to another. In English someone's name may be Gregory, but in Spanish it's Gregorio. No thier not.. Tell me one famous leader that we say thier name differently than it sounds in thier own language? Yes they are. "Yeshua" is of Hewbrew origin, "Jesus" is of Greek origin. Both interpretations is referring to the same being, Jesus Christ our Lord and savior. I highly doubt Jesus really cares what translation one uses, what would be the difference? Still referring to the same being, still using the same name just in two different forms/translations. who says? You.. NetanYahu. Mikel Gorbachev.. Those are foriegn to our language.. yet we say them in thier language. No one in the world calls Obama a different name.. Names are sounds.. TONGUES ARE A SOUND.. Transliteration is different than translating. American Heritage Dictionary: trans·lit·er·ate Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionary(trăns-lĭt'ə-rāt', trănz-) tr.v., -at·ed, -at·ing, -ates. To represent (letters or words) in the corresponding characters of another alphabet. American Heritage Dictionary: trans·late AdsTranslate | DictionaryBoss.com Translate Text to Dozens of Foreign Languages - Simple & Always Free! www.dictionaryboss.com Free Translation | Translator.Inbox.com Easily Translate Words & Phrases With New Free Translator Toolbar! translator.inbox.com Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionary (trăns'lāt', trănz'-, trăns-lāt', trănz-) v., -lat·ed, -lat·ing, -lates. v.tr. 1.To render in another language. 2. a.To put into simpler terms; explain or interpret. b.To express in different words; paraphrase. 3. a.To change from one form, function, or state to another; convert or transform: translate ideas into reality. b.To express in another medium. 4.To transfer from one place or condition to another. 5.To forward or retransmit (a telegraphic message). 6. a.Ecclesiastical. To transfer (a bishop) to another see. b.To convey to heaven without death. 7.Physics. To subject (a body) to translation. 8.Biology. To subject (messenger RNA) to translation. 9.Archaic. To enrapture. Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/translate#ixzz1kPWSIk7b To Translate a language and to Transliterate a Name are to different things altogether. Who says we can give the one name under heaven another sound as in name? If someone was to say my name is Gregorio, they would not be lying. In the spanish translation of my name Gregory, it is Gregorio. Names don't change meaning because they change language. See chr-stian teach Jc but really these verses they prove mean nothing to them Acts 4:11-12 11 This is the 'stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.' 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." NKJV Rev 22:18-19 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, Yahweh will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, Yahweh shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. NKJV These words mean nothing then.. You can do whatever you want.. Yahweh and Yahshua point to who the creator is.. If you say who is the creator in Mecca.. they will say Allah. In the far east maybe Budda or Vishnu. By what you say since names meaning to the person is different in thier language.. then any name for the creator is True Acts 4:11-12 11 This is the 'stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.' 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. What are you talking about? Different translations don't make it different names. The name Gregory and Gregorio are the SAME NAME in two different languages, but still the same name. both have a G sound both Gregory and Gregorio sound the same. yet j-sus and Yahshua sound nothing alike.. why? |
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Jesus taught more then the 10 commandments. He taught 613 to be exact. But these two sum up entirely all of Jesus' commandments. Matthew 22 37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. you claim that Jesus had 613 teachings but yet you only follow the two that generally every religion requires their believers to follow...you may as worship Satan he requires his followers to do the same Jesus said if you love me you will obey me....following only 2 of his 613 teachings is clearly not a sign of Love What other laws did Jesus give that is not followed when following these two? if all it took was to follow two...then he wouldn't have had 613 of them ... all i'm saying is that someone that claim that they loved Jesus and claim that he is their Savior and God would follow more than two of his teachings since you believe in the Trinity at least try for three oops thats right..according to Christian math...3 only equal to one ok you probably have to shoot for 9 teachings the 613 is in depth detail about what we are to do and what we are not to do. If you love thy neighbor as thyself you will not lie to them, you will not steal from them, you will not hurt or harm them in anyway and much more. If you love the lord thy God with all your heart soul, mind and body, you will not curse him, you will not obey a false gospel, you will not worship a false God. Cowboy.. I believe you are trying or u would not be on here so much. But if you really believe what you just said.. What gives you the right to change and proclaim a name the Messiah never had?..Blessings..Miles And what exactly are you taking about? I changed no name of anything. I don't give him another name. Names are different when translated from one language to another. In English someone's name may be Gregory, but in Spanish it's Gregorio. No thier not.. Tell me one famous leader that we say thier name differently than it sounds in thier own language? Yes they are. "Yeshua" is of Hewbrew origin, "Jesus" is of Greek origin. Both interpretations is referring to the same being, Jesus Christ our Lord and savior. I highly doubt Jesus really cares what translation one uses, what would be the difference? Still referring to the same being, still using the same name just in two different forms/translations. who says? You.. NetanYahu. Mikel Gorbachev.. Those are foriegn to our language.. yet we say them in thier language. No one in the world calls Obama a different name.. Names are sounds.. TONGUES ARE A SOUND.. Transliteration is different than translating. American Heritage Dictionary: trans·lit·er·ate Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionary(trăns-lĭt'ə-rāt', trănz-) tr.v., -at·ed, -at·ing, -ates. To represent (letters or words) in the corresponding characters of another alphabet. American Heritage Dictionary: trans·late AdsTranslate | DictionaryBoss.com Translate Text to Dozens of Foreign Languages - Simple & Always Free! www.dictionaryboss.com Free Translation | Translator.Inbox.com Easily Translate Words & Phrases With New Free Translator Toolbar! translator.inbox.com Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionary (trăns'lāt', trănz'-, trăns-lāt', trănz-) v., -lat·ed, -lat·ing, -lates. v.tr. 1.To render in another language. 2. a.To put into simpler terms; explain or interpret. b.To express in different words; paraphrase. 3. a.To change from one form, function, or state to another; convert or transform: translate ideas into reality. b.To express in another medium. 4.To transfer from one place or condition to another. 5.To forward or retransmit (a telegraphic message). 6. a.Ecclesiastical. To transfer (a bishop) to another see. b.To convey to heaven without death. 7.Physics. To subject (a body) to translation. 8.Biology. To subject (messenger RNA) to translation. 9.Archaic. To enrapture. Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/translate#ixzz1kPWSIk7b To Translate a language and to Transliterate a Name are to different things altogether. Who says we can give the one name under heaven another sound as in name? If someone was to say my name is Gregorio, they would not be lying. In the spanish translation of my name Gregory, it is Gregorio. Names don't change meaning because they change language. See chr-stian teach Jc but really these verses they prove mean nothing to them Acts 4:11-12 11 This is the 'stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.' 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." NKJV Rev 22:18-19 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, Yahweh will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, Yahweh shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. NKJV These words mean nothing then.. You can do whatever you want.. Yahweh and Yahshua point to who the creator is.. If you say who is the creator in Mecca.. they will say Allah. In the far east maybe Budda or Vishnu. By what you say since names meaning to the person is different in thier language.. then any name for the creator is True Acts 4:11-12 11 This is the 'stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.' 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. What are you talking about? Different translations don't make it different names. The name Gregory and Gregorio are the SAME NAME in two different languages, but still the same name. both have a G sound both Gregory and Gregorio sound the same. yet j-sus and Yahshua sound nothing alike.. why? Being translated between two different languages, English and Spanish in comparison to Hebrew and Greek. |
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Miles....God SEES the heart...and KNOWS the heart.
in other words, God KNOWS whose NAME we mean..when we call upon the NAME of the Lord.. There is only ONE NAME by which man can be Saved. That NAME being JESUS.. The SAME NAME of JESUS ...only spoken in different languages. Been thru this before with you. AND btw....God also KNOWS if you mean his Son Jesus..or another Jesus !!!!!!! |
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Jesus taught more then the 10 commandments. He taught 613 to be exact. But these two sum up entirely all of Jesus' commandments. Matthew 22 37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. you claim that Jesus had 613 teachings but yet you only follow the two that generally every religion requires their believers to follow...you may as worship Satan he requires his followers to do the same Jesus said if you love me you will obey me....following only 2 of his 613 teachings is clearly not a sign of Love What other laws did Jesus give that is not followed when following these two? if all it took was to follow two...then he wouldn't have had 613 of them ... all i'm saying is that someone that claim that they loved Jesus and claim that he is their Savior and God would follow more than two of his teachings since you believe in the Trinity at least try for three oops thats right..according to Christian math...3 only equal to one ok you probably have to shoot for 9 teachings the 613 is in depth detail about what we are to do and what we are not to do. If you love thy neighbor as thyself you will not lie to them, you will not steal from them, you will not hurt or harm them in anyway and much more. If you love the lord thy God with all your heart soul, mind and body, you will not curse him, you will not obey a false gospel, you will not worship a false God. Cowboy.. I believe you are trying or u would not be on here so much. But if you really believe what you just said.. What gives you the right to change and proclaim a name the Messiah never had?..Blessings..Miles And what exactly are you taking about? I changed no name of anything. I don't give him another name. Names are different when translated from one language to another. In English someone's name may be Gregory, but in Spanish it's Gregorio. No thier not.. Tell me one famous leader that we say thier name differently than it sounds in thier own language? Yes they are. "Yeshua" is of Hewbrew origin, "Jesus" is of Greek origin. Both interpretations is referring to the same being, Jesus Christ our Lord and savior. I highly doubt Jesus really cares what translation one uses, what would be the difference? Still referring to the same being, still using the same name just in two different forms/translations. who says? You.. NetanYahu. Mikel Gorbachev.. Those are foriegn to our language.. yet we say them in thier language. No one in the world calls Obama a different name.. Names are sounds.. TONGUES ARE A SOUND.. Transliteration is different than translating. American Heritage Dictionary: trans·lit·er·ate Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionary(trăns-lĭt'ə-rāt', trănz-) tr.v., -at·ed, -at·ing, -ates. To represent (letters or words) in the corresponding characters of another alphabet. American Heritage Dictionary: trans·late AdsTranslate | DictionaryBoss.com Translate Text to Dozens of Foreign Languages - Simple & Always Free! www.dictionaryboss.com Free Translation | Translator.Inbox.com Easily Translate Words & Phrases With New Free Translator Toolbar! translator.inbox.com Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionary (trăns'lāt', trănz'-, trăns-lāt', trănz-) v., -lat·ed, -lat·ing, -lates. v.tr. 1.To render in another language. 2. a.To put into simpler terms; explain or interpret. b.To express in different words; paraphrase. 3. a.To change from one form, function, or state to another; convert or transform: translate ideas into reality. b.To express in another medium. 4.To transfer from one place or condition to another. 5.To forward or retransmit (a telegraphic message). 6. a.Ecclesiastical. To transfer (a bishop) to another see. b.To convey to heaven without death. 7.Physics. To subject (a body) to translation. 8.Biology. To subject (messenger RNA) to translation. 9.Archaic. To enrapture. Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/translate#ixzz1kPWSIk7b To Translate a language and to Transliterate a Name are to different things altogether. Who says we can give the one name under heaven another sound as in name? If someone was to say my name is Gregorio, they would not be lying. In the spanish translation of my name Gregory, it is Gregorio. Names don't change meaning because they change language. See chr-stian teach Jc but really these verses they prove mean nothing to them Acts 4:11-12 11 This is the 'stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.' 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." NKJV Rev 22:18-19 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, Yahweh will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, Yahweh shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. NKJV These words mean nothing then.. You can do whatever you want.. Yahweh and Yahshua point to who the creator is.. If you say who is the creator in Mecca.. they will say Allah. In the far east maybe Budda or Vishnu. By what you say since names meaning to the person is different in thier language.. then any name for the creator is True Acts 4:11-12 11 This is the 'stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.' 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. What are you talking about? Different translations don't make it different names. The name Gregory and Gregorio are the SAME NAME in two different languages, but still the same name. both have a G sound both Gregory and Gregorio sound the same. yet j-sus and Yahshua sound nothing alike.. why? Being translated between two different languages, English and Spanish in comparison to Hebrew and Greek. Its amazing to me.. You all will fight over the trinity, and all other type stuff but when it comes to the Name of the Creator of Heaven and Earth you believe we have the right to call him whatever we want. what about the anti-messiah.. How will you know if he is false or not? What name will he come in? |
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That is exactly why one needs to be Saved ,and thus
Indwelled and Led and Taught by The Holy Spirit !!!! And also to stay FILLED up with the Holy Spirit !!! Otherwise one won't know Truth from Error !!! |
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satan it says clearly different names..
Rev 9:11 11 And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon. NKJV Never does it say this of Yahweh or Yahshua |
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Cowboy wrote:
John 1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Was WITH God. The Word eg., Jesus was with God eg., his father. Was God eg., our God. That is why Jesus yelled out my god, my god. If they were all one entity, they would not separate the three. Would just say "God" or some generic term for all three. Matthew 28:19 19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Cowboy, this is exactly what I was referring to: See...You DON'T believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is ONE ENTITY or ONE SUPREME BEING!!! And that is WHY you CAN"T BE SAVED!!!! God is the ONLY ONE who can give you UNDERSTANDING about The Father, Son. and Holy Spirit being ONE ENTITY!!! And God always WILL when you are saved ,or at least shortly after you are saved. Meaning....SOMETIMES when peope are first saved, they don't fulyl understand this BASIC FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH just right away......BUT when explained to a born again person, they DO FINALLY GET IT!!!!!!!! BUT after a whole year of us christians explaining this to you , yuo STILL don't get it!!!! much less even understand ANY of God's Word !!!! Which means you are NOT SAVED yet!!! ONLY GOD CAN MAKE HIS WORD CLEAR TO YOU!!! But my prayer is.....one day you WILL be saved, and then God thru the Holy Spriit INDWELLING you at that time, WILL FINALLY make His Word Clear to you!! |
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satan it says clearly different names.. Rev 9:11 11 And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon. NKJV Never does it say this of Yahweh or Yahshua There are MANY false christs. Many will say Jesus is Lord, and it will all be meanngless to God. That is why in that day God will say, " depart from me, I never knew you...." This is WHY one MUST BE BORN AGAIN , Miles..in order to KNOW the TRUTH. And God KNOWS WHOSE NAME we beleive in....a false Messiah or the REAL Messiah !!! |
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Cowboy wrote: John 1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Was WITH God. The Word eg., Jesus was with God eg., his father. Was God eg., our God. That is why Jesus yelled out my god, my god. If they were all one entity, they would not separate the three. Would just say "God" or some generic term for all three. Matthew 28:19 19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Cowboy, this is exactly what I was referring to: See...You DON'T believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is ONE ENTITY or ONE SUPREME BEING!!! And that is WHY you CAN"T BE SAVED!!!! God is the ONLY ONE who can give you UNDERSTANDING about The Father, Son. and Holy Spirit being ONE ENTITY!!! And God always WILL when you are saved ,or at least shortly after you are saved. Meaning....SOMETIMES when peope are first saved, they don't fulyl understand this BASIC FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH just right away......BUT when explained to a born again person, they DO FINALLY GET IT!!!!!!!! BUT after a whole year of us christians explaining this to you , yuo STILL don't get it!!!! much less even understand ANY of God's Word !!!! Which means you are NOT SAVED yet!!! ONLY GOD CAN MAKE HIS WORD CLEAR TO YOU!!! But my prayer is.....one day you WILL be saved, and then God thru the Holy Spriit INDWELLING you at that time, WILL FINALLY make His Word Clear to you!! Please explain why it separates the three then in the verse of Matthew 28:19 Why did they not just say God? Why separate the three? This is done in many places, not just here. And in the John verse, it says WITH God. Showing a separate entity. For if they were the same entity, they would not be able to be WITH, for it would be just that one entity. |
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Jesus taught more then the 10 commandments. He taught 613 to be exact. But these two sum up entirely all of Jesus' commandments. Matthew 22 37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. you claim that Jesus had 613 teachings but yet you only follow the two that generally every religion requires their believers to follow...you may as worship Satan he requires his followers to do the same Jesus said if you love me you will obey me....following only 2 of his 613 teachings is clearly not a sign of Love What other laws did Jesus give that is not followed when following these two? if all it took was to follow two...then he wouldn't have had 613 of them ... all i'm saying is that someone that claim that they loved Jesus and claim that he is their Savior and God would follow more than two of his teachings since you believe in the Trinity at least try for three oops thats right..according to Christian math...3 only equal to one ok you probably have to shoot for 9 teachings the 613 is in depth detail about what we are to do and what we are not to do. If you love thy neighbor as thyself you will not lie to them, you will not steal from them, you will not hurt or harm them in anyway and much more. If you love the lord thy God with all your heart soul, mind and body, you will not curse him, you will not obey a false gospel, you will not worship a false God. Cowboy.. I believe you are trying or u would not be on here so much. But if you really believe what you just said.. What gives you the right to change and proclaim a name the Messiah never had?..Blessings..Miles And what exactly are you taking about? I changed no name of anything. I don't give him another name. Names are different when translated from one language to another. In English someone's name may be Gregory, but in Spanish it's Gregorio. No thier not.. Tell me one famous leader that we say thier name differently than it sounds in thier own language? Yes they are. "Yeshua" is of Hewbrew origin, "Jesus" is of Greek origin. Both interpretations is referring to the same being, Jesus Christ our Lord and savior. I highly doubt Jesus really cares what translation one uses, what would be the difference? Still referring to the same being, still using the same name just in two different forms/translations. who says? You.. NetanYahu. Mikel Gorbachev.. Those are foriegn to our language.. yet we say them in thier language. No one in the world calls Obama a different name.. Names are sounds.. TONGUES ARE A SOUND.. Transliteration is different than translating. American Heritage Dictionary: trans·lit·er·ate Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionary(trăns-lĭt'ə-rāt', trănz-) tr.v., -at·ed, -at·ing, -ates. To represent (letters or words) in the corresponding characters of another alphabet. American Heritage Dictionary: trans·late AdsTranslate | DictionaryBoss.com Translate Text to Dozens of Foreign Languages - Simple & Always Free! www.dictionaryboss.com Free Translation | Translator.Inbox.com Easily Translate Words & Phrases With New Free Translator Toolbar! translator.inbox.com Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionary (trăns'lāt', trănz'-, trăns-lāt', trănz-) v., -lat·ed, -lat·ing, -lates. v.tr. 1.To render in another language. 2. a.To put into simpler terms; explain or interpret. b.To express in different words; paraphrase. 3. a.To change from one form, function, or state to another; convert or transform: translate ideas into reality. b.To express in another medium. 4.To transfer from one place or condition to another. 5.To forward or retransmit (a telegraphic message). 6. a.Ecclesiastical. To transfer (a bishop) to another see. b.To convey to heaven without death. 7.Physics. To subject (a body) to translation. 8.Biology. To subject (messenger RNA) to translation. 9.Archaic. To enrapture. Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/translate#ixzz1kPWSIk7b To Translate a language and to Transliterate a Name are to different things altogether. Who says we can give the one name under heaven another sound as in name? If someone was to say my name is Gregorio, they would not be lying. In the spanish translation of my name Gregory, it is Gregorio. Names don't change meaning because they change language. See chr-stian teach Jc but really these verses they prove mean nothing to them Acts 4:11-12 11 This is the 'stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.' 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." NKJV Rev 22:18-19 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, Yahweh will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, Yahweh shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. NKJV These words mean nothing then.. You can do whatever you want.. Yahweh and Yahshua point to who the creator is.. If you say who is the creator in Mecca.. they will say Allah. In the far east maybe Budda or Vishnu. By what you say since names meaning to the person is different in thier language.. then any name for the creator is True Acts 4:11-12 11 This is the 'stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.' 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. What are you talking about? Different translations don't make it different names. The name Gregory and Gregorio are the SAME NAME in two different languages, but still the same name. both have a G sound both Gregory and Gregorio sound the same. yet j-sus and Yahshua sound nothing alike.. why? Being translated between two different languages, English and Spanish in comparison to Hebrew and Greek. Its amazing to me.. You all will fight over the trinity, and all other type stuff but when it comes to the Name of the Creator of Heaven and Earth you believe we have the right to call him whatever we want. what about the anti-messiah.. How will you know if he is false or not? What name will he come in? No, we can't call him whatever we we want. A name translated appears different, but in fact is the same name. Again, Gregory and Gregorio is the same name in two different languages. |
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Cowboy wrote:
Please explain why it separates the three then in the verse of
Matthew 28:19 Why did they not just say God? Why separate the three? This is done in many places, not just here. And in the John verse, it says WITH God. Showing a separate entity. For if they were the same entity, they would not be able to be WITH, for it would be just that one entity COWBOY.....3 PERSONS !!!!!!!!!! 3 PERSONS IN ONE ENTITY !!!!!!!!! BUT ONE SUBSTANCE!!!! BUT ONE SUPREME BEING!!!!!! NOT NOT NOT THREE ENTITIES !!! WE HAVE BEEN THRU THIS FOR OVER A YEAR NOW!!!!!!! |
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No, we can't call him whatever we we want. A name translated appears different, but in fact is the same name. Again, Gregory and Gregorio is the same name in two different languages.
This is correct, Cowboy. Now ask God to make ALL OF GOD'S WORD CLEAR to you . Because ONLY GOD CAN.....NOT MAN. |
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Cowboy wrote: John 1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Was WITH God. The Word eg., Jesus was with God eg., his father. Was God eg., our God. That is why Jesus yelled out my god, my god. If they were all one entity, they would not separate the three. Would just say "God" or some generic term for all three. Matthew 28:19 19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Cowboy, this is exactly what I was referring to: See...You DON'T believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is ONE ENTITY or ONE SUPREME BEING!!! And that is WHY you CAN"T BE SAVED!!!! God is the ONLY ONE who can give you UNDERSTANDING about The Father, Son. and Holy Spirit being ONE ENTITY!!! And God always WILL when you are saved ,or at least shortly after you are saved. Meaning....SOMETIMES when peope are first saved, they don't fulyl understand this BASIC FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH just right away......BUT when explained to a born again person, they DO FINALLY GET IT!!!!!!!! BUT after a whole year of us christians explaining this to you , yuo STILL don't get it!!!! much less even understand ANY of God's Word !!!! Which means you are NOT SAVED yet!!! ONLY GOD CAN MAKE HIS WORD CLEAR TO YOU!!! But my prayer is.....one day you WILL be saved, and then God thru the Holy Spriit INDWELLING you at that time, WILL FINALLY make His Word Clear to you!! Cowboy, this is exactly what I was referring to: See...You DON'T believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is ONE ENTITY or ONE SUPREME BEING!!! And that is WHY you CAN"T BE SAVED!!!! God is the ONLY ONE who can give you UNDERSTANDING about The Father, Son. and Holy Spirit being ONE ENTITY!!! But not all Christians believe they are all three one entity, nor do all denominations, nor do all teachings. |
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