S0 latest new quandry.....You guys are mostly over forty years of age, it seems like. However.....is there any stigma against guys/girls that really never have gotten the chance to hold proper (as in healthily working) relationships?

stigma - no

concern - yes

meh.
i'm twenty.
i've never had a relationship ever.
don't really desire one either.

Yep, there is a stigman. Everyone thinks there is something wrong with you if you haven't married and divorced. As well if you haven't had a long term relationship; people won't give you the time of day. Sucks but thats how it works my dear.

aye at 20 I had my BF from my senior year and a few dates in college

Bored, come on try and help the Lad NOt scare the crap outta him.

Oh, I can tell I'm already ****ed anyways, no worries there.

I could be like my friend (who's similar to me) who basically is in a relationship he hates that sustains it because he doesn't want to hurt the girl's feelings.

Really what draws up most of my concerns is this youtube channel in particular.

http://www.youtube.com/user/trman1

Imagine how much many of these people (or most of them) have achieved only to find they're incompatible with other people.

prolly not

some people are late bloomers

at least he doesn't have 5 kids with 3 different moms and no marriages

even if he did, I think it is important to look at the person and how they are managing or trying to manage their lives now & if they have learned from their past. The OP seems to be making a good faith effort to me & I wish him good luck

most people seem to censor you out around 25. A lot of people that hear this sort of thing basically give off a "what the **** is wrong with you" reaction.

I feel like most girls treat a lot of it with an approach of "if I just leave him alone, the problem will go away, and he'll find his own direction and his problems will just fix themselves".

SO yea, its a pretty big spread of "sick animal syndrome".

you've caught me on some good (too tired to really bother) days.

The only advise I got is this...

We are all our own worst enemies and when it comes to any failed or successful relationship there is one common denominator. You. Being younger, you kinda got limited points of reference to work off of.

Just kinda take a look yourself and see what you can do to make yourself feel more comfortable with you. When you are cool with yourself, you will find that women dig self-onfidence.

Oh yeah...the tickling....just stop bro. Tickling is cute in theory but it gets irritating and annoying after .2 seconds. Once they are past 7 years old...tickling loses its charm.

some random googling of why people remain alone, I guess. can't really remember.

Keep in mind while these videos are long they do serve a purpose to get an insight as to whats happening to people in the scene (rather than people who are simply "satiated" from relationships to the point of not minding being alone).

Lets face it. The first played video on the channel features a gay man. I have nothing against it, but given that I have friends that are gay, it looks like despite there being a community supporting them, they still either have 1) trouble meeting other guys or 2) are battling problems they have with themselves.

I'm mostly looking at the psychological reviews (which don't really mean anything, but its good to see "professional" takes on it) and "peers" of similar age. There are ways that I can see that I'm not far off; I am not reclusive, however I do supplement work and individual projects to serve the same purpose. After a 45-50 hour work week, I'm going to be somewhat withdrawn.

I sign up for classes at the local community college that's about five minutes away from me.

I've never been married, I have no problem attracting women, and my lack of marriage has never been a concern for the women I date. Maybe thats a religious thing? Just wondering, because religious people seem to have a bit of extra focus on marriage, and I generally don't date religious women.

Now the lack of an LTR... thats different. If I met a 27yo who'd never been in an LTR I wouldn't rule her out on that basis - I'd want to know why, first. But usually people like that usually have self esteem issues and/or selfishness/self absorption issues, both of which are turn-offs for me.



Wise words.

I've had many, and I'd be better off today if I had never had any of them.

Oh, just realized: I'm sure gender plays a role here. Probably more guys are threatened by an independent woman, than women are threatened by an independent guy.

Of course men are threatened by an independent woman. They are like little children; especially the guys in their 50s.

He was asking about those of us over 40 about the stigma. I am sure this doesn't apply to age 27.

I actually stated that I felt past 25 was considered out of norm. Therefore stigma applies 25+, unless around 40 it becomes looked at like age; "just a number".

Now your showing why you aren't in relationships.

Frankly I like independence; shows the girl in question is headstrong enough that I don't have to put myself in the pillow position 24/7 for her to appreciate me.

haha.
i'll keep my count at zero then.