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Topic: OBAMA 2012
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Tue 09/27/11 08:25 AM
I find number 26 to be kind of BS. So if a guy does violent crime to me its less of a crime because I am straight? Where is equality under the law?


I think that really completely misses the point. By making it a federal crime, it imposes equality under the law. It no longer depends on what state you are in. It makes lynching, for instance, just as much of a crime in Mississippi as in Washington.

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Tue 09/27/11 08:52 AM
1. Held Bp responsible for the spill as opposed to APOLOGIZING to them.

The tv might say they are being held responsible but I do not see it happening in real life...


2. Increased funding for firemen and police and helped save jobs.

Most of the increases were just temporary, and they blew through that money fast...


3. Rate of job LOSS in the US has greatly decreased.

Job loss will decrease when there are no more jobs to lose, it is like everyone is working on a skeleton crew right now...


4. Launched investigatin of Blue Cross after extreme price hikes.

I believe that was the Attorney General who did that...


5. Investigated BP after the oil spill.

Another Attorney General job...


8. Tax cuts to 95 percent of working americans.

It is easy to say this, when a person goes from paying taxes from a good job to paying taxes because they are on welfare then it does look like a tax cut on paper...


9. Fraud enforcement act to investigate fraud in home lending.

Attorney General job...


11. Good riddance to Osama Bin Laden.

This was done fast and no proof...some thing still seems shady to me about the whole deal...


14. lower taxes than EVER in my lifetime

What taxes exactly got lowered? All the taxes I paid in all look the same from the years before. State taxes are up even along with federal taxes on things like gas...


16. Limited salary of white house aides.

If he did do this then those were the wrong salaries to limit. It is Congress that is being overpaid!


17. Attempting to close GItmo

That was all campaign talk, once he was in office he seen the purpose of it and took it out of the spotlight...


18. Funded armor and mine resistant vehicles for the military

Military got funded for that about 10 years ago, it has to have funding before they do the research and development.


23. Cash for Clunkers program

This was a failed program when they did it in the 90's and it is still a failed program! By scrapping those "clunkers" you kill the auto repair industry (part manufactures and the auto mechanics and everything). Then the cars that are taken in are crushed so the junk yards can not make any money off of them. Plus the fact that most of the vehicles that were turned in were not ones that were being driven anyways so it is not helping the environment or anything there. All it did was raise prices on the used car market since there are less cars out there now...



25. HEALTH CARE REFORM

LOL...You consider this a good thing?


26. Signed legislation making violence against Homosexuals a FEDERAL CRIME.

So if homosexuals inflict violence on a heterosexual what is that, just a slap on the wrist?


Im still in his corner, unless there comes to the front a 'better' candidate.

This is the biggest problem, they are all telling lies so it is hard to pick the lesser of the evils...But this evil has got to go!

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Tue 09/27/11 03:18 PM
26. Signed legislation making violence against Homosexuals a FEDERAL CRIME.

So if homosexuals inflict violence on a heterosexual what is that, just a slap on the wrist?

i agree, this is just stupid... now all a homo has to say is they did it because their gay, then it turns federal. gives them free reign to do what they want with no repercussions...so if a queer comes and slaps your wife or kid, nobody can reciprocate with it being a hate crime.... just stupid...

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Tue 09/27/11 05:56 PM
Actually I was mistaken, the intelligance first gathered on Osama Bin Laden was first given in 2002 and verified in 2004 and was worked until 2008-2010 then almost blown in 2010-1022 by the Wikileaks document release which almost cost us the mission on Osama Bin Laden and the reason the mission date was moved up. So those peave loving life love idiots themselves may be to blame for several deaths.

If the team had the proper time to prepare for the raid, Bin Laden and several of the people killed could have probably been captured alive. Thanks Wikileaks!

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Tue 09/27/11 06:01 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Tue 09/27/11 06:01 PM







the intelligance was gathered during the Bush Presidency and was accomplished by Navy SEALS, they killed Osama, Obama didn't


Where does this stuff come from? Oh never mind. I guess we know where it comes from. It's like pointing out that the Pentagon planned and executed Shock and Awe in Iraq. Bush didn't have anything to do with it. He was clearing brush in Texas.


The key work was done to find Osama before Obama was president. Is that too complicated for you to understand? Or are you just unaware of the timeline of events?


This is too damn funny....

So Bush knew but didn't do?


Figures.


You know perfectly well that isn't what it says. Bush put into motion the CIA action that trailed Osama's couriers. This one had been tracked since 2008 but they weren't sure of the identity of his destination until Obama got in office.


So did Bush do it or did Obama do it?


Under Bush, everything was done that found Osama, but they were not sure of his true identity after the courier was tracked to his compound. A close watch was made of the compound. After Obama came into office, Osama's identity was confirmed and he was killed. The hard part was finding him.


LOL well I guess if that works in your mind, you believe it.

So who got Osama?


The members of SEAL Team 6 who risked THEIR lives to go in there and get the monster. NOT the people sitting behind a desk with Perrier water and $100.00 fruit trays and gourmet popcorn like a typical White House movie premier.

The ONLY thing Obama did was sign a piece of paper authorizing the raid. EVERYTHING else was done by the members of the military and intelligence community.

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Tue 09/27/11 06:02 PM

The hard part was finding him.


I give the CIA a lot of credit for it. But, what did George W Bush have to do with it?

Obama is going to get the credit for it. Live with it.


Bush authorized the black sites and interrogation that led to the intelligence starting in 2002.

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Tue 09/27/11 06:04 PM
President Bush and his people also had the experience needed to realize the way to find Bin Laden was through his couriers which is how that intelligence was developed. I'm sorry but the professional polititian Obama had running the CIA until last month wouldn't have thought of that if he were in place at that time.

Good thing we had people in office who knew what they were doing and had the guts to do what it took to get the information that led to the end of one of the deadliest men on the planet.

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Tue 09/27/11 06:49 PM
President Bush and his people also had the experience needed to realize the way to find Bin Laden was through his couriers

I just can't figure out why the President disbanded the CIA unit that was searching for Bin Laden in 2006. We still have no record of any useful information coming out of those black sites and torture sessions. Just the word of people who never told the truth about anything.

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Tue 09/27/11 07:19 PM

President Bush and his people also had the experience needed to realize the way to find Bin Laden was through his couriers

I just can't figure out why the President disbanded the CIA unit that was searching for Bin Laden in 2006. We still have no record of any useful information coming out of those black sites and torture sessions. Just the word of people who never told the truth about anything.


Obviously it wasn't disbanded since they had hundreds of Agents working full time on Osama Bin Laden, publically it was closed to probably get Osama to let his guard down.

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Tue 09/27/11 08:03 PM
publically it was closed to probably get Osama to let his guard down.


Ah, this crafty Bushies.

This isn't what Michael Scheuer said, "Michael Scheuer, a former senior C.I.A. official who was the first head of the unit, said the move reflected a view within the agency that Mr. bin Laden was no longer the threat he once was.

Mr. Scheuer said that view was mistaken.". The President doesn't seem to have had much of a role in the direction the CIA was taking.http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html?hp&ex=1152072000&en=5ced05aa2a8d9b76&ei=5094&partner=homepage In fact, the unit was formed 10 years earlier, under Bill Clinton, whose Administration tried to warn the Bush State Department that they would be spending most of their time keeping tabs on Bin Laden. The warning didn't take.

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Tue 09/27/11 08:09 PM
BP set aside 20 bn, of which it has paid 10 bn in clean up and another millions in claims.

Tax rates dont change because of changing employment. They are set by INCOME bracket. Those within those INCOME brackets get charged a certain rate.


The Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act ("FERA"), signed by President Obama on May 20, 2009, provides federal law enforcement with additional resources to combat mortgage and financial fraud.


ATTEMPTING to close Gitmo, even signing an EXECUTIVE ORDER when first in office,,,


I consider Health Care Reform a VERY GOOD THING.

Federal laws, as artlo pointed out, make certain things illegal at a federal level, so they will be prosecutable in every state, instead of on a state by state level.

and finally

Even if I believed that all politicians are evil(Which I dont).

IF all I have to pick from is evil or less evil, Id still pick this President whom I believe has the best interest of PEOPLE at heart instead of some bottom line where only money or might matters.

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Tue 09/27/11 08:17 PM








the intelligance was gathered during the Bush Presidency and was accomplished by Navy SEALS, they killed Osama, Obama didn't


Where does this stuff come from? Oh never mind. I guess we know where it comes from. It's like pointing out that the Pentagon planned and executed Shock and Awe in Iraq. Bush didn't have anything to do with it. He was clearing brush in Texas.


The key work was done to find Osama before Obama was president. Is that too complicated for you to understand? Or are you just unaware of the timeline of events?


This is too damn funny....

So Bush knew but didn't do?


Figures.


You know perfectly well that isn't what it says. Bush put into motion the CIA action that trailed Osama's couriers. This one had been tracked since 2008 but they weren't sure of the identity of his destination until Obama got in office.


So did Bush do it or did Obama do it?


Under Bush, everything was done that found Osama, but they were not sure of his true identity after the courier was tracked to his compound. A close watch was made of the compound. After Obama came into office, Osama's identity was confirmed and he was killed. The hard part was finding him.


LOL well I guess if that works in your mind, you believe it.

So who got Osama?


The members of SEAL Team 6 who risked THEIR lives to go in there and get the monster. NOT the people sitting behind a desk with Perrier water and $100.00 fruit trays and gourmet popcorn like a typical White House movie premier.

The ONLY thing Obama did was sign a piece of paper authorizing the raid. EVERYTHING else was done by the members of the military and intelligence community.


Without the stroke of the pen it would have never happened.

So Obama got Osama.

Pretty plain and simple.

Bush coulda did it but didn't do it and now is too late for Bush to do it.

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Wed 09/28/11 06:58 AM
And now, for something a little different, Addictinginformation.com has put together a list of accomplishments of the other side. Actions blocked with the filibuster and actions attempted:


Here’s just a short list of some of the bills that Republicans have blocked, or attempted to block, since Obama became President:

Tax on Companies that ship jobs overseas- A bill that would have eliminated a tax break that companies get when they ship jobs overseas. Republicans blocked this, allowing companies to keep the tax break they receive when they ship jobs to other countries.

Political Ad disclosure bill- Would have required all donors to political campaigns to reveal themselves. Republicans blocked this, not once but twice.

Subpoena Power for the Committee investigating the BP Oil Spill – Give subpoena power to the independent committee responsible for investigating BP’s roll in the oil spill. Republicans attempted to block this.

The Small Business Jobs Act -would give LOCAL, community banks access to billions of dollars to loan to small businesses. Republicans blocked this, then attempted to block it a second time and failed.

The DREAM Act- Gives immigrant youth who were brought here as children a path to citizenship by earning a college degree or serving the military for 2 years. Republicans blocked this.

Repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”- Would have repealed the law that forces gay and lesbian services members to lie about their sexuality and gives the military the right to discharge soldiers based on their sexuality. Republicans blocked this many times and Democrats were finally able to pass it with the support of just 2 Republicans.





From Crooks and Liars - When John McCain led the filibuster of the Defense Appropriations Act yesterday, he blocked far more than the DREAM Act and repeal of DADT. Here are just a few of the other blocked provisions, courtesy of Mother Jones.

No permanent military bases in Afghanistan.
Report identifying hybrid or electric propulsion systems and other fuel-saving technologies for incorporation into tactical motor vehicles.
Protection of child custody arrangements for parents who are members of the Armed Forces deployed in support of a contingency operation.
Improvements to Department of Defense domestic violence programs.
Department of Defense recognition of spouses of members of the Armed Forces.
Department of Defense recognition of children of members of the Armed Forces.
Enhancements to the Troops-to-Teachers Program.
Fiscal year 2011 increase in military basic pay.
Improving aural protection for members of the Armed Forces.
Comprehensive policy on neurocognitive assessment by the military health care system.
Authority to make excess nonlethal supplies available for domestic emergency assistance.
And those were just some of the progressive provisions. On the conservative side, there are these, and more:

Prohibition on the use of funds for the transfer or release of individuals detained at United States Naval Station, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Prohibition on the use of funds to modify or construct facilities in the United States to house detainees transferred from United States Naval Station, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Prohibition on use of funds to give Miranda warnings to Al Qaeda terrorists.
And here’s the bills that Republicans had blocked when we compiled our first list;

Senator Franken’s Anti-Rape Amendment to the Defense Appropriations Bill – Makes it so that women raped overseas while working for foreign contractors have the right to have their case heard in an American court instead of having their case mediated by the company they work for. Only Republican men voted against this, but it passed.

Benefits for Homeless Veterans- Would have expanded benefits to homeless veterans and homeless veterans with children. Republicans blocked this.

Affordable Health Care For America Act- Prevents insurance companies from discriminating against you on the basis of “pre-existing conditions”. Requires that insurance companies spend 85 cents of every dollar that you pay on your actual health care. Limits health insurance companies profit margins. Republicans blocked this for months before it finally passed and have vowed to repeal it if they are elected.

Health Care for the 9/11 First Responders who got sick from being at Ground Zero- Would provide billions of dollars in health care to help the 9/11 First Responders who were at Ground Zero on 9/11 and are now sick because of it. Republicans blocked this.

The Jobs Bill- Offsets the payroll tax for 1 year for companies that hire new employees, or people receiving unemployment insurance. Also gives other tax incentives to companies hiring new employees. Republicans attempted to block this.

Wall Street Reform- Puts stricter regulations on the banks, preventing them from becoming “too big to fail”. Curbs reckless spending practices that caused the banking crisis. Republicans attempted to block this.

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act- Pumped billions of dollars into state and local Governments to prevent us from sinking into a second Great Depression. Republicans opposed this but now want to take credit for the parts of it that we know are successful.

Oil Spill Liability- Raises the liability on what companies can be made to pay to clean up after an oil spill. Republicans blocked this.

Immigration Reform- Republican suggested comprehensive immigration reform until Obama supported it. Now they’re rabidly opposed to it and even voted against their own legislation. Republicans blocked this.

Unemployment extension bill HR-4213- Would provide additional aid to the millions of Americans still on unemployment who are just trying to support themselves and their families. Republicans blocked this bill for 8 weeks before it finally passed. Republicans blocked this for 8 weeks before it finally passed.

Fair Pay Act of 2009- Also called the Lily Ledbetter bill. Requires that women receive equal compensation to men for doing the same work. Republicans attempted to block this.

The next time someone tells you that the Republicans care about the American people just give them this list of all the bill Republicans wanted to fail.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/01/03/bills-republicans-have-blocked/

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