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Topic: Is terrorism the new religion ??
2smileloudly's photo
Fri 09/16/11 01:33 PM
This might make for an interesting thread... :)

Is terrorism the new religion ????

Religion is based upon fear,
constant unseen, imaginary fear..
and the penalty is the ultimate penalty.. burn in hell for eternity

Our thoughts about Terrorism are fear driven.
We attacked two countries on the other side of the world to make us safer... Our military budget has doubled in 10 years, mainly to help fight terrorism..... The news is filled everyday with credible but unconfirmed terroristic threats.... The penalty for terrorism is death, but the odds of US citizens dying from a terroristic attack is so small, we have a better chance of dying from just about anything else... drunk driver etc.... (unless you are a US soldier sent into harms way, which is another topic....I have the utmost respect for our soldiers, that is why I personally want them home)

Terrorism is an action, and it is defigned by the observer (a terrorist to one is a freedom fighter to another.. the British thought we were terrorists in our War for Independence, but since we won, we look back into history and call ourselves freedom fighters), just like Religion is a thought or ideology. Neither exist except in our minds......


EquusDancer's photo
Fri 09/16/11 02:30 PM
I believe it's the new thing in pre-existing religions! But yes, a religion in and of itself, I could see it!

motowndowntown's photo
Fri 09/16/11 04:11 PM
Terrorism no.

Intolerance maybe.

s1owhand's photo
Fri 09/16/11 04:21 PM
Nah. Your premise is wrong. Religion in general is not based on fear
most religions do not believe in heaven and hell. Buddhism and
Hinduism, Judaism and Taoism for example do not believe in heaven and hell in these religions one is rewarded spiritually by being ethical,
just and kind.

Terrorism is the new holy war. Like the Crusades and Inquisition
except terrorism today is based on Islam. Terrorism is not a
religion itself but extortion in the name of Islam.

drinker

Kleisto's photo
Fri 09/16/11 05:17 PM
Religion and terrorism really follow the same template. Meaning it comes down to do as we say and you'll be safe, or you'll be sorry if you don't.

s1owhand's photo
Fri 09/16/11 05:30 PM

Religion and terrorism really follow the same template. Meaning it comes down to do as we say and you'll be safe, or you'll be sorry if you don't.


Nonsense. As I mentioned above your point of view is not really a part
of Hinduism, Judaism, Taoism, Buddhism or Confucianism for example.

Read about their points of view and you will see they have no
threat of hell for example or any threat actually....

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/16/11 05:34 PM

Religion and terrorism really follow the same template. Meaning it comes down to do as we say and you'll be safe, or you'll be sorry if you don't.



Kind of like life too,, it comes down to,, take care of your body and you will be healthy, or youll be sorry if you dont.

or, get an education and you will have stability, or youll be sorry if you dont.

we could make that claim about anything where people consider the potential negative consequences,,,

Kleisto's photo
Fri 09/16/11 05:57 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Fri 09/16/11 05:59 PM


Religion and terrorism really follow the same template. Meaning it comes down to do as we say and you'll be safe, or you'll be sorry if you don't.



Kind of like life too,, it comes down to,, take care of your body and you will be healthy, or youll be sorry if you dont.

or, get an education and you will have stability, or youll be sorry if you dont.

we could make that claim about anything where people consider the potential negative consequences,,,


The difference is those are obvious, and anyone would half a brain would know that. They are not fear based, but are based on cause and effect. You don't eat well, you'll get sick. You don't educate yourself, you'll be stupid.

Religion and terrorism on the other hand are. They are based on a premise of basically an imaginary threat, either in God damning you, or in terrorists killing you if you don't do exactly what you are told by those above you. They are entirely different from the examples you list above.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:14 PM



Religion and terrorism really follow the same template. Meaning it comes down to do as we say and you'll be safe, or you'll be sorry if you don't.



Kind of like life too,, it comes down to,, take care of your body and you will be healthy, or youll be sorry if you dont.

or, get an education and you will have stability, or youll be sorry if you dont.

we could make that claim about anything where people consider the potential negative consequences,,,


The difference is those are obvious, and anyone would half a brain would know that. They are not fear based, but are based on cause and effect. You don't eat well, you'll get sick. You don't educate yourself, you'll be stupid.

Religion and terrorism on the other hand are. They are based on a premise of basically an imaginary threat, either in God damning you, or in terrorists killing you if you don't do exactly what you are told by those above you. They are entirely different from the examples you list above.



because it hasnt been proven or 'discovered' , doesnt mean its imaginary,,,


some very REAL things are still just now being discovered, even though they have existed for centuries ....


that damnation may be a very REAL thing, which would make such precaution just as natural as any other,,,

s1owhand's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:16 PM


The difference is those are obvious, and anyone would half a brain would know that. They are not fear based, but are based on cause and effect. You don't eat well, you'll get sick. You don't educate yourself, you'll be stupid.

Religion and terrorism on the other hand are. They are based on a premise of basically an imaginary threat, either in God damning you, or in terrorists killing you if you don't do exactly what you are told by those above you. They are entirely different from the examples you list above.


Nonsense. As I mentioned above your point of view is not really a part
of Hinduism, Judaism, Taoism, Buddhism or Confucianism for example.

Read about their points of view and you will see they have no
threat of hell for example or any threat actually....

Kleisto's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:16 PM



The difference is those are obvious, and anyone would half a brain would know that. They are not fear based, but are based on cause and effect. You don't eat well, you'll get sick. You don't educate yourself, you'll be stupid.

Religion and terrorism on the other hand are. They are based on a premise of basically an imaginary threat, either in God damning you, or in terrorists killing you if you don't do exactly what you are told by those above you. They are entirely different from the examples you list above.


Nonsense. As I mentioned above your point of view is not really a part
of Hinduism, Judaism, Taoism, Buddhism or Confucianism for example.

Read about their points of view and you will see they have no
threat of hell for example or any threat actually....


No but of the ones that are more mainstream it's a large part of it. The ones you mention are almost on the fringe compared to the biggies.

Kleisto's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:17 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Fri 09/16/11 06:19 PM




Religion and terrorism really follow the same template. Meaning it comes down to do as we say and you'll be safe, or you'll be sorry if you don't.



Kind of like life too,, it comes down to,, take care of your body and you will be healthy, or youll be sorry if you dont.

or, get an education and you will have stability, or youll be sorry if you dont.

we could make that claim about anything where people consider the potential negative consequences,,,


The difference is those are obvious, and anyone would half a brain would know that. They are not fear based, but are based on cause and effect. You don't eat well, you'll get sick. You don't educate yourself, you'll be stupid.

Religion and terrorism on the other hand are. They are based on a premise of basically an imaginary threat, either in God damning you, or in terrorists killing you if you don't do exactly what you are told by those above you. They are entirely different from the examples you list above.



because it hasnt been proven or 'discovered' , doesnt mean its imaginary,,,


some very REAL things are still just now being discovered, even though they have existed for centuries ....


that damnation may be a very REAL thing, which would make such precaution just as natural as any other,,,


Until you actually GO there, how can you know? You can't, you can only assume. It's all based on an assumption that you're being told the truth, but what if you're not?

It's all about control, if you can get the people to think that they will be safe they do just as you say, and will die horribly if they don't, you have them totally under your power.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:17 PM
Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,

lol


so, its just human, it isnt because of religion or 'religion' based

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:19 PM





Religion and terrorism really follow the same template. Meaning it comes down to do as we say and you'll be safe, or you'll be sorry if you don't.



Kind of like life too,, it comes down to,, take care of your body and you will be healthy, or youll be sorry if you dont.

or, get an education and you will have stability, or youll be sorry if you dont.

we could make that claim about anything where people consider the potential negative consequences,,,


The difference is those are obvious, and anyone would half a brain would know that. They are not fear based, but are based on cause and effect. You don't eat well, you'll get sick. You don't educate yourself, you'll be stupid.

Religion and terrorism on the other hand are. They are based on a premise of basically an imaginary threat, either in God damning you, or in terrorists killing you if you don't do exactly what you are told by those above you. They are entirely different from the examples you list above.



because it hasnt been proven or 'discovered' , doesnt mean its imaginary,,,


some very REAL things are still just now being discovered, even though they have existed for centuries ....


that damnation may be a very REAL thing, which would make such precaution just as natural as any other,,,


Until you actually GO there, how can you know? You can't, you can only assume. It's all based on an assumption that you're being told the truth, but what if you're not?



good question,,

what if Im not being told the truth,,,I have not really lost anything that I can think of by trying to live by more 'rigid' guidelines than by more 'free' ones


what if I am being told the truth,,,than Ive been pretty wise to take the precautions and live by the guidelines which I have ,,,

either way, ID be fine with it,,,at the end of the day,,,

Kleisto's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:20 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Fri 09/16/11 06:20 PM

Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,


So because we seek actual PROOF of claims of something, we're paranoid and afraid of life? Is that it?

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:21 PM


Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,


So because we seek actual PROOF of claims of something, we're paranoid and afraid of life? Is that it?



yes, because someone trusts nothing but the worst possible scenario,, ID say that person lives a pretty fearful life,,,a life of constant concern and worry

Kleisto's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:21 PM






Religion and terrorism really follow the same template. Meaning it comes down to do as we say and you'll be safe, or you'll be sorry if you don't.



Kind of like life too,, it comes down to,, take care of your body and you will be healthy, or youll be sorry if you dont.

or, get an education and you will have stability, or youll be sorry if you dont.

we could make that claim about anything where people consider the potential negative consequences,,,


The difference is those are obvious, and anyone would half a brain would know that. They are not fear based, but are based on cause and effect. You don't eat well, you'll get sick. You don't educate yourself, you'll be stupid.

Religion and terrorism on the other hand are. They are based on a premise of basically an imaginary threat, either in God damning you, or in terrorists killing you if you don't do exactly what you are told by those above you. They are entirely different from the examples you list above.



because it hasnt been proven or 'discovered' , doesnt mean its imaginary,,,


some very REAL things are still just now being discovered, even though they have existed for centuries ....


that damnation may be a very REAL thing, which would make such precaution just as natural as any other,,,


Until you actually GO there, how can you know? You can't, you can only assume. It's all based on an assumption that you're being told the truth, but what if you're not?



good question,,

what if Im not being told the truth,,,I have not really lost anything that I can think of by trying to live by more 'rigid' guidelines than by more 'free' ones


What you will have lost is the ability to have made of your life what you really wanted to have make it, in lieu of things you were told you had to do. All the rigid guidelines and rules religion imposes restricts us.

Kleisto's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:22 PM



Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,


So because we seek actual PROOF of claims of something, we're paranoid and afraid of life? Is that it?



yes, because someone trusts nothing but the worst possible scenario,, ID say that person lives a pretty fearful life,,,a life of constant concern and worry


Maybe we're just sick of BS and lies ever thought about that?

To say that cause we dare question things around us we're just paranoid and afraid of life, is quite disrespectful and rude to be frank.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:24 PM







Religion and terrorism really follow the same template. Meaning it comes down to do as we say and you'll be safe, or you'll be sorry if you don't.



Kind of like life too,, it comes down to,, take care of your body and you will be healthy, or youll be sorry if you dont.

or, get an education and you will have stability, or youll be sorry if you dont.

we could make that claim about anything where people consider the potential negative consequences,,,


The difference is those are obvious, and anyone would half a brain would know that. They are not fear based, but are based on cause and effect. You don't eat well, you'll get sick. You don't educate yourself, you'll be stupid.

Religion and terrorism on the other hand are. They are based on a premise of basically an imaginary threat, either in God damning you, or in terrorists killing you if you don't do exactly what you are told by those above you. They are entirely different from the examples you list above.



because it hasnt been proven or 'discovered' , doesnt mean its imaginary,,,


some very REAL things are still just now being discovered, even though they have existed for centuries ....


that damnation may be a very REAL thing, which would make such precaution just as natural as any other,,,


Until you actually GO there, how can you know? You can't, you can only assume. It's all based on an assumption that you're being told the truth, but what if you're not?



good question,,

what if Im not being told the truth,,,I have not really lost anything that I can think of by trying to live by more 'rigid' guidelines than by more 'free' ones


What you will have lost is the ability to have made of your life what you really wanted to have make it, in lieu of things you were told you had to do. All the rigid guidelines and rules religion imposes restricts us.





And the list of things I want that I can have is far too long to feel I was deprived by a list of things I might want that I cant or shouldnt have,,,If I still got what I want at the end, and just not EVERYTHING I want,, oh well

I dont think we ever have or make ALL we want from life,, thats how we keep LIVING, by continuing to pursue those things

So, I stil dont think I will have lost anything

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:25 PM




Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,


So because we seek actual PROOF of claims of something, we're paranoid and afraid of life? Is that it?



yes, because someone trusts nothing but the worst possible scenario,, ID say that person lives a pretty fearful life,,,a life of constant concern and worry


Maybe we're just sick of BS and lies ever thought about that?

To say that cause we dare question things around us we're just paranoid and afraid of life, is quite disrespectful and rude to be frank.


so now you know how it feels being told the religious have faith that is based in fear,,,

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