Topic: Is terrorism the new religion ??
Kleisto's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:30 PM





Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,


So because we seek actual PROOF of claims of something, we're paranoid and afraid of life? Is that it?



yes, because someone trusts nothing but the worst possible scenario,, ID say that person lives a pretty fearful life,,,a life of constant concern and worry


Maybe we're just sick of BS and lies ever thought about that?

To say that cause we dare question things around us we're just paranoid and afraid of life, is quite disrespectful and rude to be frank.


so now you know how it feels being told the religious have faith that is based in fear,,,


The facts are the facts Msharmony, I will not apologize for them. No matter how well intentioned or how much you think a belief system may be good, it does not always mean that it is.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:31 PM






Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,


So because we seek actual PROOF of claims of something, we're paranoid and afraid of life? Is that it?



yes, because someone trusts nothing but the worst possible scenario,, ID say that person lives a pretty fearful life,,,a life of constant concern and worry


Maybe we're just sick of BS and lies ever thought about that?

To say that cause we dare question things around us we're just paranoid and afraid of life, is quite disrespectful and rude to be frank.


so now you know how it feels being told the religious have faith that is based in fear,,,


The facts are the facts Msharmony, I will not apologize for them. No matter how well intentioned or how much you think a belief system may be good, it does not always mean that it is.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:31 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 09/16/11 06:32 PM






Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,


So because we seek actual PROOF of claims of something, we're paranoid and afraid of life? Is that it?



yes, because someone trusts nothing but the worst possible scenario,, ID say that person lives a pretty fearful life,,,a life of constant concern and worry


Maybe we're just sick of BS and lies ever thought about that?

To say that cause we dare question things around us we're just paranoid and afraid of life, is quite disrespectful and rude to be frank.


so now you know how it feels being told the religious have faith that is based in fear,,,


The facts are the facts Msharmony, I will not apologize for them. No matter how well intentioned or how much you think a belief system may be good, it does not always mean that it is.


likewise....

Kleisto's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:33 PM







Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,


So because we seek actual PROOF of claims of something, we're paranoid and afraid of life? Is that it?



yes, because someone trusts nothing but the worst possible scenario,, ID say that person lives a pretty fearful life,,,a life of constant concern and worry


Maybe we're just sick of BS and lies ever thought about that?

To say that cause we dare question things around us we're just paranoid and afraid of life, is quite disrespectful and rude to be frank.


so now you know how it feels being told the religious have faith that is based in fear,,,


The facts are the facts Msharmony, I will not apologize for them. No matter how well intentioned or how much you think a belief system may be good, it does not always mean that it is.


likewise....


Except you don't have facts, you have assumptions. You base what you believe in effect on what others have told you is the case.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:34 PM








Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,


So because we seek actual PROOF of claims of something, we're paranoid and afraid of life? Is that it?



yes, because someone trusts nothing but the worst possible scenario,, ID say that person lives a pretty fearful life,,,a life of constant concern and worry


Maybe we're just sick of BS and lies ever thought about that?

To say that cause we dare question things around us we're just paranoid and afraid of life, is quite disrespectful and rude to be frank.


so now you know how it feels being told the religious have faith that is based in fear,,,


The facts are the facts Msharmony, I will not apologize for them. No matter how well intentioned or how much you think a belief system may be good, it does not always mean that it is.


likewise....


Except you don't have facts, you have assumptions. You base what you believe in effect on what others have told you is the case.




again, ,,likewise,,,

Kleisto's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:36 PM









Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,


So because we seek actual PROOF of claims of something, we're paranoid and afraid of life? Is that it?



yes, because someone trusts nothing but the worst possible scenario,, ID say that person lives a pretty fearful life,,,a life of constant concern and worry


Maybe we're just sick of BS and lies ever thought about that?

To say that cause we dare question things around us we're just paranoid and afraid of life, is quite disrespectful and rude to be frank.


so now you know how it feels being told the religious have faith that is based in fear,,,


The facts are the facts Msharmony, I will not apologize for them. No matter how well intentioned or how much you think a belief system may be good, it does not always mean that it is.


likewise....


Except you don't have facts, you have assumptions. You base what you believe in effect on what others have told you is the case.




again, ,,likewise,,,


Not really......the information is there, the truth is there, you just don't wish to believe it.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:37 PM










Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,


So because we seek actual PROOF of claims of something, we're paranoid and afraid of life? Is that it?



yes, because someone trusts nothing but the worst possible scenario,, ID say that person lives a pretty fearful life,,,a life of constant concern and worry


Maybe we're just sick of BS and lies ever thought about that?

To say that cause we dare question things around us we're just paranoid and afraid of life, is quite disrespectful and rude to be frank.


so now you know how it feels being told the religious have faith that is based in fear,,,


The facts are the facts Msharmony, I will not apologize for them. No matter how well intentioned or how much you think a belief system may be good, it does not always mean that it is.


likewise....


Except you don't have facts, you have assumptions. You base what you believe in effect on what others have told you is the case.




again, ,,likewise,,,


Not really......the information is there, the truth is there, you just don't wish to believe it.


likewise,,,

lol,, we could do this all day,,,y keep going?

Kleisto's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:38 PM











Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,


So because we seek actual PROOF of claims of something, we're paranoid and afraid of life? Is that it?



yes, because someone trusts nothing but the worst possible scenario,, ID say that person lives a pretty fearful life,,,a life of constant concern and worry


Maybe we're just sick of BS and lies ever thought about that?

To say that cause we dare question things around us we're just paranoid and afraid of life, is quite disrespectful and rude to be frank.


so now you know how it feels being told the religious have faith that is based in fear,,,


The facts are the facts Msharmony, I will not apologize for them. No matter how well intentioned or how much you think a belief system may be good, it does not always mean that it is.


likewise....


Except you don't have facts, you have assumptions. You base what you believe in effect on what others have told you is the case.




again, ,,likewise,,,


Not really......the information is there, the truth is there, you just don't wish to believe it.


likewise,,,

lol,, we could do this all day,,,y keep going?


I'm noticing that.....seems like it's all you want to say in response to me.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:39 PM












Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,


So because we seek actual PROOF of claims of something, we're paranoid and afraid of life? Is that it?



yes, because someone trusts nothing but the worst possible scenario,, ID say that person lives a pretty fearful life,,,a life of constant concern and worry


Maybe we're just sick of BS and lies ever thought about that?

To say that cause we dare question things around us we're just paranoid and afraid of life, is quite disrespectful and rude to be frank.


so now you know how it feels being told the religious have faith that is based in fear,,,


The facts are the facts Msharmony, I will not apologize for them. No matter how well intentioned or how much you think a belief system may be good, it does not always mean that it is.


likewise....


Except you don't have facts, you have assumptions. You base what you believe in effect on what others have told you is the case.




again, ,,likewise,,,


Not really......the information is there, the truth is there, you just don't wish to believe it.


likewise,,,

lol,, we could do this all day,,,y keep going?


I'm noticing that.....seems like it's all you want to say in response to me.



seriously, there is just nothing else to say

it feels like beating my head against a wall, because its clear that the reality of how people 'perceive' their version of the truth is just not gonna get through,,,

heavenlyboy34's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:40 PM

This might make for an interesting thread... :)

Is terrorism the new religion ????

Religion is based upon fear,
constant unseen, imaginary fear..
and the penalty is the ultimate penalty.. burn in hell for eternity

Our thoughts about Terrorism are fear driven.
We attacked two countries on the other side of the world to make us safer... Our military budget has doubled in 10 years, mainly to help fight terrorism..... The news is filled everyday with credible but unconfirmed terroristic threats.... The penalty for terrorism is death, but the odds of US citizens dying from a terroristic attack is so small, we have a better chance of dying from just about anything else... drunk driver etc.... (unless you are a US soldier sent into harms way, which is another topic....I have the utmost respect for our soldiers, that is why I personally want them home)

Terrorism is an action, and it is defigned by the observer (a terrorist to one is a freedom fighter to another.. the British thought we were terrorists in our War for Independence, but since we won, we look back into history and call ourselves freedom fighters), just like Religion is a thought or ideology. Neither exist except in our minds......



Terror is the poor man's war-war is the rich man's terror.

Kleisto's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:56 PM













Id like to add, as a Christian, I am personally observing in these very threads that some of the most non religious people are more paranoid and fearful of life than I have ever been,,,,


So because we seek actual PROOF of claims of something, we're paranoid and afraid of life? Is that it?



yes, because someone trusts nothing but the worst possible scenario,, ID say that person lives a pretty fearful life,,,a life of constant concern and worry


Maybe we're just sick of BS and lies ever thought about that?

To say that cause we dare question things around us we're just paranoid and afraid of life, is quite disrespectful and rude to be frank.


so now you know how it feels being told the religious have faith that is based in fear,,,


The facts are the facts Msharmony, I will not apologize for them. No matter how well intentioned or how much you think a belief system may be good, it does not always mean that it is.


likewise....


Except you don't have facts, you have assumptions. You base what you believe in effect on what others have told you is the case.




again, ,,likewise,,,


Not really......the information is there, the truth is there, you just don't wish to believe it.


likewise,,,

lol,, we could do this all day,,,y keep going?


I'm noticing that.....seems like it's all you want to say in response to me.



seriously, there is just nothing else to say

it feels like beating my head against a wall, because its clear that the reality of how people 'perceive' their version of the truth is just not gonna get through,,,


As you've said.....likewise except for my own feelings.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/16/11 06:58 PM


This might make for an interesting thread... :)

Is terrorism the new religion ????

Religion is based upon fear,
constant unseen, imaginary fear..
and the penalty is the ultimate penalty.. burn in hell for eternity

Our thoughts about Terrorism are fear driven.
We attacked two countries on the other side of the world to make us safer... Our military budget has doubled in 10 years, mainly to help fight terrorism..... The news is filled everyday with credible but unconfirmed terroristic threats.... The penalty for terrorism is death, but the odds of US citizens dying from a terroristic attack is so small, we have a better chance of dying from just about anything else... drunk driver etc.... (unless you are a US soldier sent into harms way, which is another topic....I have the utmost respect for our soldiers, that is why I personally want them home)

Terrorism is an action, and it is defigned by the observer (a terrorist to one is a freedom fighter to another.. the British thought we were terrorists in our War for Independence, but since we won, we look back into history and call ourselves freedom fighters), just like Religion is a thought or ideology. Neither exist except in our minds......



Terror is the poor man's war-war is the rich man's terror.



I like this one,,,precise and witty

s1owhand's photo
Fri 09/16/11 07:24 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Fri 09/16/11 07:25 PM



This might make for an interesting thread... :)

Is terrorism the new religion ????

Religion is based upon fear,
constant unseen, imaginary fear..
and the penalty is the ultimate penalty.. burn in hell for eternity

Our thoughts about Terrorism are fear driven.
We attacked two countries on the other side of the world to make us safer... Our military budget has doubled in 10 years, mainly to help fight terrorism..... The news is filled everyday with credible but unconfirmed terroristic threats.... The penalty for terrorism is death, but the odds of US citizens dying from a terroristic attack is so small, we have a better chance of dying from just about anything else... drunk driver etc.... (unless you are a US soldier sent into harms way, which is another topic....I have the utmost respect for our soldiers, that is why I personally want them home)

Terrorism is an action, and it is defigned by the observer (a terrorist to one is a freedom fighter to another.. the British thought we were terrorists in our War for Independence, but since we won, we look back into history and call ourselves freedom fighters), just like Religion is a thought or ideology. Neither exist except in our minds......



Terror is the poor man's war-war is the rich man's terror.



I like this one,,,precise and witty


Terror is killing innocent people with techniques like bus bombs
cafe bombs and flying airplane loads of civilians into buildings.

Even in war, terrorist tactics are prosecuted as war crimes.

That is why the above comment is witless, inane and false.

yawn

But at least it is humorous in its stupidity. I'll give it that much.

laugh

s1owhand's photo
Fri 09/16/11 07:28 PM




The difference is those are obvious, and anyone would half a brain would know that. They are not fear based, but are based on cause and effect. You don't eat well, you'll get sick. You don't educate yourself, you'll be stupid.

Religion and terrorism on the other hand are. They are based on a premise of basically an imaginary threat, either in God damning you, or in terrorists killing you if you don't do exactly what you are told by those above you. They are entirely different from the examples you list above.


Nonsense. As I mentioned above your point of view is not really a part
of Hinduism, Judaism, Taoism, Buddhism or Confucianism for example.

Read about their points of view and you will see they have no
threat of hell for example or any threat actually....


No but of the ones that are more mainstream it's a large part of it. The ones you mention are almost on the fringe compared to the biggies.


Muslims and Christians make up about half the world's adherents.
The other half are composed of religions such as those I listed.

HALF - not fringe. Half.


CowboyGH's photo
Fri 09/16/11 09:44 PM

This might make for an interesting thread... :)

Is terrorism the new religion ????

Religion is based upon fear,
constant unseen, imaginary fear..
and the penalty is the ultimate penalty.. burn in hell for eternity

Our thoughts about Terrorism are fear driven.
We attacked two countries on the other side of the world to make us safer... Our military budget has doubled in 10 years, mainly to help fight terrorism..... The news is filled everyday with credible but unconfirmed terroristic threats.... The penalty for terrorism is death, but the odds of US citizens dying from a terroristic attack is so small, we have a better chance of dying from just about anything else... drunk driver etc.... (unless you are a US soldier sent into harms way, which is another topic....I have the utmost respect for our soldiers, that is why I personally want them home)

Terrorism is an action, and it is defigned by the observer (a terrorist to one is a freedom fighter to another.. the British thought we were terrorists in our War for Independence, but since we won, we look back into history and call ourselves freedom fighters), just like Religion is a thought or ideology. Neither exist except in our minds......




Religion in absolutely no way can or could be used for terrorism. Regardless if one may think theirs threats of death for not believing or not, one must believe FIRST, before that would have any power over them. So therefore one can not be "forced" into believing a religion and or feel "threatened" because of the belief.

no photo
Fri 09/16/11 09:58 PM
Some preachers are very similar to terrorists trying to spread fear of the world coming to an end.

With wide eyes and an alarmed voice they try to spread panic about some comet that will destroy us, then they ask "Have you been saved?"

Here is a perfect example:

This guy makes me sick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDD0O4ZxsOk

no photo
Fri 09/16/11 10:05 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 09/16/11 10:06 PM
Jehovah's witnesses would come to my door and start by asking a question about the end of the world. They asked me if I was concerned about the end of the world.

Gloom and doom.

(I personally think that the guy who wrote Revelation was on some kind of magic mushrooms.)








CowboyGH's photo
Fri 09/16/11 10:12 PM

Some preachers are very similar to terrorists trying to spread fear of the world coming to an end.

With wide eyes and an alarmed voice they try to spread panic about some comet that will destroy us, then they ask "Have you been saved?"

Here is a perfect example:

This guy makes me sick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDD0O4ZxsOk


Why would they bring the fear of the ending of the world? What is there to fear if the world did end? How is that a fear tactic? We're gonna pass away on Earth one day or other anyways, what would it matter if it was from old age, tragic disaster, or the world coming to an end? How is that a fear tactic to get one to believe?

And to start with, the preachers would be talking to someone that doesn't share the faith. One would have to first believe in the faith before it would have any power over them eg., the world coming to an end one day. And again, what is there to fear if the world did come to an end?

Is there no such thing as enlightened knowledge? Why is it viewed as them trying to scare one into the belief? Cause again, in reality someone can not be "scared" into believing.

Kleisto's photo
Fri 09/16/11 10:14 PM


Some preachers are very similar to terrorists trying to spread fear of the world coming to an end.

With wide eyes and an alarmed voice they try to spread panic about some comet that will destroy us, then they ask "Have you been saved?"

Here is a perfect example:

This guy makes me sick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDD0O4ZxsOk


Why would they bring the fear of the ending of the world? What is there to fear if the world did end? How is that a fear tactic? We're gonna pass away on Earth one day or other anyways, what would it matter if it was from old age, tragic disaster, or the world coming to an end? How is that a fear tactic to get one to believe?


If you REALLY can't see the fear at work here, I don't know what I can tell you. They are basically lusting for death and destruction.

CowboyGH's photo
Fri 09/16/11 10:18 PM



Some preachers are very similar to terrorists trying to spread fear of the world coming to an end.

With wide eyes and an alarmed voice they try to spread panic about some comet that will destroy us, then they ask "Have you been saved?"

Here is a perfect example:

This guy makes me sick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDD0O4ZxsOk


Why would they bring the fear of the ending of the world? What is there to fear if the world did end? How is that a fear tactic? We're gonna pass away on Earth one day or other anyways, what would it matter if it was from old age, tragic disaster, or the world coming to an end? How is that a fear tactic to get one to believe?


If you REALLY can't see the fear at work here, I don't know what I can tell you. They are basically lusting for death and destruction.


No, depends on what you wish to take from in your reading. One hand you have perishing, other hand you have eternal life. You wish to dwell on the perishing and discard the eternal life and love.

Again, can't be used as a fear tactic, for again if one doesn't believe in the first place, they won't fear it. Cause lol they don't believe it to be true.