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And again, no Eve being made from the rib of adam in no possible way could be "homosexual". For again, there was no "Sex". see this is why if people wish to complain about religion not being taught in school, is why people need to complain that science is not taught in church .... read any biology book and you will learn that any form of human reproduction no matter the method used is considered to be sex this is why the first attmept to produce a human took place between two males Adam and God to produce Eve...a human reproduced by two males makes it a homosexual act Cowboy...since God is the creator of everything he therefore had to create homosexuality ...Eve's birth is an example of how this occured Yes "reproduction" is sex. Eve wasn't reproduced from Adam. Eve was CREATED from the rib of Adam. Maybe you should look up the word reproduction again. Reproduction - the act or process of reproducing; specifically : the process by which plants and animals give rise to offspring and which fundamentally consists of the segregation of a portion of the parental body by a sexual or an asexual process and its subsequent growth and differentiation into a new individual Eve was not an "offspring" of Adam, there was no "sexual" intercourse. Adam wasn't "pregnant" with Eve, so that cancels out Asexual since Adam didn't give birth to Eve. Eve was of the same blood as Adam, and that makes her an offspring....and makes Adam her Father ...or perhaps Mother sexual intercourse took place one God pulled out one of Adam's Ribs, reproduction took place once God formed the rib into Eve...God could have formed her from the dirt but he used a human male instead..and that is what makes it the first homosexual act if GOd is the Creator of Everything as you claim...then he must also be the creator of homosexuals and homosexuality No, do you really not know what makes an offspring? Eve was not born in Adam, Adam did not give birth to Eve. God created Eve from Adam's rib. There was nothing on Adam's part he did to make Eve. Was all God's creation. There was no sex at all, so it wasn't homosexual, not heterosexual, not sex with a child, nothing. Eve was born from a part of Adam the same as an offspring is born from a part of it's mother ...that makes Adam the mother of Eve either way you wish to spin it....it can not be disputed that Eve wsas of the same blood as Adam and was reproduced from a part of Adam and formed by God ...clearly homosexual incestous activity |
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Cowboy wrote:
And no God doesn't “hate” homosexuals. God hates no one. I never said he did. You claim that God hates "homosexuality", not homosexuals. Supposedly homosexuality is the "sin" and God hates sin, not the sinners. But not to worry because the blood of Jesus can easily wash away homosexuality. And God will replace the heart of the homosexual with a heart that prefers male-chauvinism instead. 
It will all come out in the wash. In the meantime, don't forget to study up on Islam as it will most likely be the dominant world religion in the not-to-distant future. 
God "hates" nothing. God doesn't hate homosexuals, God doesn't hate homosexuality. God disapproves of this action, but that doesn't mean he loves them less then the rest of the world. Cowboy...if God doesn't hate homosexuals or homosexuality as you just claimed...then that mean that God Love homosexuals and homosexuality which makes for a contradiction also as I stated earlier,... Eve was born from God performing a homosexual act with Adam by using one of Adam's Ribs to reproduce into Eve ...this is homosexuality and God was the first to create it any form of human reproduction is considered to be sex, No contradiction. You don't have to "hate" something to not approve of it. in religion isn't "not approve of" also slang for "burn for all eternity" ...but yet God loves those while he roast them on an open fire ...this is the hallmark of a sociopath ... No it is not. Who said someone was going to burn? what's the lake of fire supposed to be use for ...roasting marshmellows? Romans 6:23 23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. The only reward for sin is not torment or ever lasting burning. Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire, that's what it is for. Hell is a holding cell for Satan till judgement day. This him and his minion will be thrown into the lake of fire. and what happen to those that do not receive the supposed gift of Heaven ..... the only wages of sin is DEATH. Not everlasting punishment, DEATH. how will this Death occur .....dude just tell the truth and stop wasting time |
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And again, no Eve being made from the rib of adam in no possible way could be "homosexual". For again, there was no "Sex". see this is why if people wish to complain about religion not being taught in school, is why people need to complain that science is not taught in church .... read any biology book and you will learn that any form of human reproduction no matter the method used is considered to be sex this is why the first attmept to produce a human took place between two males Adam and God to produce Eve...a human reproduced by two males makes it a homosexual act Cowboy...since God is the creator of everything he therefore had to create homosexuality ...Eve's birth is an example of how this occured Yes "reproduction" is sex. Eve wasn't reproduced from Adam. Eve was CREATED from the rib of Adam. Maybe you should look up the word reproduction again. Reproduction - the act or process of reproducing; specifically : the process by which plants and animals give rise to offspring and which fundamentally consists of the segregation of a portion of the parental body by a sexual or an asexual process and its subsequent growth and differentiation into a new individual Eve was not an "offspring" of Adam, there was no "sexual" intercourse. Adam wasn't "pregnant" with Eve, so that cancels out Asexual since Adam didn't give birth to Eve. Eve was of the same blood as Adam, and that makes her an offspring....and makes Adam her Father ...or perhaps Mother sexual intercourse took place one God pulled out one of Adam's Ribs, reproduction took place once God formed the rib into Eve...God could have formed her from the dirt but he used a human male instead..and that is what makes it the first homosexual act if GOd is the Creator of Everything as you claim...then he must also be the creator of homosexuals and homosexuality No, do you really not know what makes an offspring? Eve was not born in Adam, Adam did not give birth to Eve. God created Eve from Adam's rib. There was nothing on Adam's part he did to make Eve. Was all God's creation. There was no sex at all, so it wasn't homosexual, not heterosexual, not sex with a child, nothing. Eve was born from a part of Adam the same as an offspring is born from a part of it's mother ...that makes Adam the mother of Eve either way you wish to spin it....it can not be disputed that Eve wsas of the same blood as Adam and was reproduced from a part of Adam and formed by God ...clearly homosexual incestous activity No, offsprings don't come from a PART of the person. Offsprings are made by the two people in question, through sexual intercourse. And again there was no sexual intercourse creating either Adam or Eve. |
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Cowboy wrote:
And no God doesn't “hate” homosexuals. God hates no one. I never said he did. You claim that God hates "homosexuality", not homosexuals. Supposedly homosexuality is the "sin" and God hates sin, not the sinners. But not to worry because the blood of Jesus can easily wash away homosexuality. And God will replace the heart of the homosexual with a heart that prefers male-chauvinism instead.
It will all come out in the wash. In the meantime, don't forget to study up on Islam as it will most likely be the dominant world religion in the not-to-distant future.
God "hates" nothing. God doesn't hate homosexuals, God doesn't hate homosexuality. God disapproves of this action, but that doesn't mean he loves them less then the rest of the world. Cowboy...if God doesn't hate homosexuals or homosexuality as you just claimed...then that mean that God Love homosexuals and homosexuality which makes for a contradiction also as I stated earlier,... Eve was born from God performing a homosexual act with Adam by using one of Adam's Ribs to reproduce into Eve ...this is homosexuality and God was the first to create it any form of human reproduction is considered to be sex, No contradiction. You don't have to "hate" something to not approve of it. in religion isn't "not approve of" also slang for "burn for all eternity" ...but yet God loves those while he roast them on an open fire ...this is the hallmark of a sociopath ... No it is not. Who said someone was going to burn? what's the lake of fire supposed to be use for ...roasting marshmellows? Romans 6:23 23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. The only reward for sin is not torment or ever lasting burning. Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire, that's what it is for. Hell is a holding cell for Satan till judgement day. This him and his minion will be thrown into the lake of fire. and what happen to those that do not receive the supposed gift of Heaven ..... the only wages of sin is DEATH. Not everlasting punishment, DEATH. how will this Death occur .....dude just tell the truth and stop wasting time The ones that pass judgement will be resurrected into life by God from the grave. The rest will just remain that, dead. |
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Matthew 25:41 King James Version (KJV) 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels Revelation 20:10-16 King James Version (KJV) 10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 11And I saw a great white throne, and Him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
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Matthew 25:41 King James Version (KJV) 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels Revelation 20:10-16 King James Version (KJV) 10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 11And I saw a great white throne, and Him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Thank you MorningSong :). I want to bring attention the part I quoted, is known as THE SECOND DEATH. Still, no ever lasting burning. |
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Question: "What happens after death?"
Answer: Within the Christian faith, there is a significant amount of confusion regarding what happens after death. Some hold that after death, everyone “sleeps” until the final judgment, after which everyone will be sent to heaven or hell. Others believe that at the moment of death, people are instantly judged and sent to their eternal destinations. Still others claim that when people die, their souls/spirits are sent to a “temporary” heaven or hell, to await the final resurrection, the final judgment, and then the finality of their eternal destination. So, what exactly does the Bible say happens after death? First, for the believer in Jesus Christ, the Bible tells us that after death believers’ souls/spirits are taken to heaven, because their sins are forgiven by having received Christ as Savior (John 3:16, 18, 36). For believers, death is to be “away from the body and at home with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:6-8; Philippians 1:23). However, passages such as 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 describe believers being resurrected and given glorified bodies. If believers go to be with Christ immediately after death, what is the purpose of this resurrection? It seems that while the souls/spirits of believers go to be with Christ immediately after death, the physical body remains in the grave “sleeping.” At the resurrection of believers, the physical body is resurrected, glorified, and then reunited with the soul/spirit. This reunited and glorified body-soul-spirit will be the possession of believers for eternity in the new heavens and new earth (Revelation 21-22). Second, for those who do not receive Jesus Christ as Savior, death means everlasting punishment. However, similar to the destiny of believers, unbelievers also seem to be sent immediately to a temporary holding place, to await their final resurrection, judgment, and eternal destiny. Luke 16:22-23 describes a rich man being tormented immediately after death. Revelation 20:11-15 describes all the unbelieving dead being resurrected, judged at the great white throne, and then being cast into the lake of fire. Unbelievers, then, are not sent to hell (the lake of fire) immediately after death, but rather are in a temporary realm of judgment and condemnation. However, even though unbelievers are no t instantly sent to the lake of fire, their immediate fate after death is not a pleasant one. The rich man cried out, “I am in agony in this fire” (Luke 16:24). Therefore, after death, a person resides in a “temporary” heaven or hell. After this temporary realm, at the final resurrection, a person’s eternal destiny will not change. The precise “location” of that eternal destiny is what changes. Believers will ultimately be granted entrance into the new heavens and new earth (Revelation 21:1). Unbelievers will ultimately be sent to the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15). These are the final, eternal destinations of all people—based entirely on whether or not they had trusted Jesus Christ alone for salvation (Matthew 25:46; John 3:36). 
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And again, no Eve being made from the rib of adam in no possible way could be "homosexual". For again, there was no "Sex". see this is why if people wish to complain about religion not being taught in school, is why people need to complain that science is not taught in church .... read any biology book and you will learn that any form of human reproduction no matter the method used is considered to be sex this is why the first attmept to produce a human took place between two males Adam and God to produce Eve...a human reproduced by two males makes it a homosexual act Cowboy...since God is the creator of everything he therefore had to create homosexuality ...Eve's birth is an example of how this occured Yes "reproduction" is sex. Eve wasn't reproduced from Adam. Eve was CREATED from the rib of Adam. Maybe you should look up the word reproduction again. Reproduction - the act or process of reproducing; specifically : the process by which plants and animals give rise to offspring and which fundamentally consists of the segregation of a portion of the parental body by a sexual or an asexual process and its subsequent growth and differentiation into a new individual Eve was not an "offspring" of Adam, there was no "sexual" intercourse. Adam wasn't "pregnant" with Eve, so that cancels out Asexual since Adam didn't give birth to Eve. Eve was of the same blood as Adam, and that makes her an offspring....and makes Adam her Father ...or perhaps Mother sexual intercourse took place one God pulled out one of Adam's Ribs, reproduction took place once God formed the rib into Eve...God could have formed her from the dirt but he used a human male instead..and that is what makes it the first homosexual act if GOd is the Creator of Everything as you claim...then he must also be the creator of homosexuals and homosexuality No, do you really not know what makes an offspring? Eve was not born in Adam, Adam did not give birth to Eve. God created Eve from Adam's rib. There was nothing on Adam's part he did to make Eve. Was all God's creation. There was no sex at all, so it wasn't homosexual, not heterosexual, not sex with a child, nothing. Eve was born from a part of Adam the same as an offspring is born from a part of it's mother ...that makes Adam the mother of Eve either way you wish to spin it....it can not be disputed that Eve wsas of the same blood as Adam and was reproduced from a part of Adam and formed by God ...clearly homosexual incestous activity No, offsprings don't come from a PART of the person. right...they do not come from the woman's egg...the stork brings them or you find them in the cabbage patch Offsprings are made by the two people in question, through sexual intercourse. I guess you never hear of test tube babies ...but even that is a form of sex And again there was no sexual intercourse creating either Adam or Eve. God taking Adam's Rib to form eve was sex ..... |
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Matthew 25:41 King James Version (KJV) 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels Revelation 20:10-16 King James Version (KJV) 10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 11And I saw a great white throne, and Him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Thank you MorningSong :). I want to bring attention the part I quoted, is known as THE SECOND DEATH. Still, no ever lasting burning. hummm so they are suppose to burn in the lake of fire.....see Cowboy how you preach and spread false gospel |
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Cowboy, the dead are still aware.....eternity is
forever..... we all go on eternally , somewhere.... either with God or away from God.... |
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Matthew 25:41 King James Version (KJV) 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels Revelation 20:10-16 King James Version (KJV) 10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 11And I saw a great white throne, and Him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Thank you MorningSong :). I want to bring attention the part I quoted, is known as THE SECOND DEATH. Still, no ever lasting burning. hummm so they are suppose to burn in the lake of fire.....see Cowboy how you preach and spread false gospel hmmm so I don't spread anything false. They are thrown into the lake of fire and this is known as the SECOND DEATH. "Second Death" infers no eternal torment. It says they are just basically incinerated and destroyed. Does not say they will be tormented in the Lake of Fire or tortured. Says it is known as the second death. Something dead is not living, it is not feeling. |
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Cowboy, the dead are still aware.....eternity is forever..... we all go on eternally , somewhere.... either with God or away from God.... No, morningsong. Jesus offers eternal life. Not everyone will go on eternally, for how can they do as such without eternal life? And the only way to attain eternal life is through Jesus. Again, notice it says "second death". If it is dead it is not living, it is not feeling. If it is not feeling, there is no way it could be "tormented" or tortured for eternity. Yes it's an eternal punishment. But it is an eternal death. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast |
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Matthew 25:41 King James Version (KJV) 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels Revelation 20:10-16 King James Version (KJV) 10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 11And I saw a great white throne, and Him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Thank you MorningSong :). I want to bring attention the part I quoted, is known as THE SECOND DEATH. Still, no ever lasting burning. hummm so they are suppose to burn in the lake of fire.....see Cowboy how you preach and spread false gospel hmmm so I don't spread anything false. They are thrown into the lake of fire and this is known as the SECOND DEATH. "Second Death" infers no eternal torment. It says they are just basically incinerated and destroyed. Does not say they will be tormented in the Lake of Fire or tortured. Says it is known as the second death. Something dead is not living, it is not feeling. forget it Cowboy...now you are babbling...you said that no one would burn ...which was a lie and spreading false gospel...you trying to lie your way out of the lie instead of accepting the truth only mean that your goal was to spread the lie and mis-information you should be trying to teach me the truth about the bible not me teaching it to you |
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Matthew 25:41 King James Version (KJV) 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels Revelation 20:10-16 King James Version (KJV) 10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 11And I saw a great white throne, and Him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Thank you MorningSong :). I want to bring attention the part I quoted, is known as THE SECOND DEATH. Still, no ever lasting burning. hummm so they are suppose to burn in the lake of fire.....see Cowboy how you preach and spread false gospel hmmm so I don't spread anything false. They are thrown into the lake of fire and this is known as the SECOND DEATH. "Second Death" infers no eternal torment. It says they are just basically incinerated and destroyed. Does not say they will be tormented in the Lake of Fire or tortured. Says it is known as the second death. Something dead is not living, it is not feeling. forget it Cowboy...now you are babbling...you said that no one would burn ...which was a lie and spreading false gospel...you trying to lie your way out of the lie instead of accepting the truth only mean that your goal was to spread the lie and mis-information you should be trying to teach me the truth about the bible not me teaching it to you They will not burn for eternity, they will not "burn". This is known as THE SECOND DEATH. They are thrown in the lake of fire to be destroyed, to die. Not to be tortured. |
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hmmm so I don't spread anything false. . Cowboy...that statement itself is false ..... |
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hmmm so I don't spread anything false. . Cowboy...that statement itself is false ..... Funches...that statement itself is false ..... |
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They will not burn for eternity, they will not "burn". This is known as THE SECOND DEATH. They are thrown in the lake of fire to be destroyed, to die. Not to be tortured. Cowboy...I asked you if no one burns then what is the lake of fire for... first you claim that it was only for Satan and his legion...now only because MorningSong corrected you are you claiming that now people will be tossed into it then you claim that death was only a secular term....now you are claiming that people will die in the lake of fire in a second death then you claim that no one will be tortured in the lake of fire....do you actually believe that being tossed into a lake of fire is not torture ...wow and here I thought that "waterboarding" the enemy was torture ...it's like a day at DisneyLand compare to buring in the lake of fire all you are doing is spreading false-dom |
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PLEASE people we all know Jesus isnt in Genesis for GOD sakes He's in Heaven where he belongs lol. Now whats all the fus about?.
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10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire
and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." Cowboy, the lake of fire is eternal torment.... not a pretty picture..but again....it is forever..it does not stop. Eternity is forever....and does not cease...nothing ceases in eternity..it is not the same as time in eternity |
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10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." Cowboy, the lake of fire is eternal torment.... not a pretty picture..but again....it is forever..it does not stop. Eternity is forever....and does not cease...nothing ceases in eternity..it is not the same as time in eternity Please notice who it says in these verses. 1. The Devil. 2. The false prophet. No other person is mentioned in these verses. Does not say ever lasting torment on someone other then The Devil and The false prophet. |
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