agreed, can we do it now

One other side note, I knew a guy who was 18 and his girlfriend was 15. they were sweethearts since he was 15 when they met. They were an item for two years and she lost her virginity to him and he likewise lost his to her but he was 17 at the time. They were known to be sexually active and he had a job and was planning on having her move in with him when she turned 18. Her parents thought the world of him. I knew the guy and he was one of the few people who had his head screwed on correctly. They were also planning on getting married and she was going to go to college. Her high school teacher called the police the day of his 18th birthday and had his life ruined as well as hers. They did stay together and when he got out of prison got the hell out of this state. the High School teacher was one of those "Morally incorruptible" people, steeped in God's ways.

This is one example of the failure of the spirit of the law in Black and White enforcement.

Agreed. I personally think that the only times the law should come into play with sex, is in cases of rape, pedophilia, and perhaps indecent and purposeful exposure.

Other than that, I think the state should butt out of people's personal lives. Pretty simple, clear cut and much easier to understand than all these convoluted rules about what is ok and what isn't.

agreed


except for all those exceptions where 'personal' isnt really as 'personal' as it seems in respect to the community

Everything you spoke of I'm on board with. I'm glad you used this example because that is/was my story. I met my husband when I was 15. He was 19. Back in my growing up days it was not that big of a deal unless there was a massive difference in age and she was VERY young. My mother didn't get all bent out of shape. When I was sixteen we got to date and the next 16 years and three children were history.

you see that is what the justice system is supposed to do. if it worked as intended, a non bias decision would have been made in each case and justice would have been served. but there are many factors that make judgements that are biased and/or unfair

What defines this to you Msharmony?

what defines this to me is the relationship I feel ADULTS have to be 'protective' of children.

Something that starts off as 'personal', like mary's personal decision to have sex with her brother, potentially will snowball into a FAMILY where children will have not set boundaries/identities to relate to(an uncle dad and an aunt mom)

Something that starts off as 'personal', like susans decision to bring her boyfriends into her home and have relations with them in FRONT of her toddler, potentially will have a snowball effect on that child and how they deal with others in their family, community, etc,,,

the role of adults to protect children(this is my personal opinion, and I understand many believe it is only the 'parents' role to do so), makes such a 'personal' decision one that other adults should step up and try (through whatever LEGAL means possible) to deter,,,

Sexual intercourse by a male with a female under a specified legal age constitutes the crime of statutory or consensual rape. It is irrelevant whether or not the male is actually aware of the girl's true age, and equally irrelevant that he might have been misled by the girl to believe that she was above the age of consent. There have been cases of males who were prosecuted for statutory rape for having engaged in sexual relations with a professional prostitute when the girl was under the age of consent.

The age specified by law for consent varies throughout the United States, though it has now risen considerably above the ten- and twelve-year-old limits formerly part of the English common law. In the United States, the lowest age is fourteen, in Georgia, and the highest, twenty-one, in Tennessee. Most states use the age of eighteen, and it is noteworthy that in many jurisdictions the legal age of consent to sexual relations is well above the legal age at which a girl may be married. In fact, it is possible in most states for a man to be prosecuted for statutory rape if he engages in a sexual relationship with a consenting married female under the age of eighteen.

The numbers are staggering of the young men who have been imprisoned, became first time felons and end up life time registered sex offenders over statutory rape and unlawful sexual contact because of age differences regardless of the situation.

I have mixed feelings on this issue. As a woman and mother I find rape one of the most heinous crimes there is. It's a violent, humiliating offence that has nothing to do with sex..but control and over powering another.

As a mother of sons I have been around young women, seems like forever...many very sexually active at young ages, many of them with babies in their teens, and a whole bunch of them confused and more than anxious to use 'beaver power' over the boys and even intentionally punish them for non compliance.

Are these laws fair? Do we hold the males to a higher standard? Are we letting the females get away with a bit much? Should the females also be held accountable for their part?

What are your thoughts on this issue?

it is statutory rape if the woman is of age and the male is not, no? what i wanna know is where were all those hot body high school teachers committing statutory rape when i was going through puberty. it ain't fair. it just ain't fair.

it is statutory rape if the woman is of age and the male is not, no? what i wanna know is where were all those hot body high school teachers committing statutory rape when i was going through puberty. it ain't fair. it just ain't fair.

For those couch potatoe, drug using, drunken mothers that dont give a damn about their kids where they go, or who they stay with--- here are the consecuences...right. do you know where your kids are at???? while you on the couch or online looking for friends to get drunk with>??? sheshhhhh

If you would have had the hot teacher and had the opportunity to have teen age boy sex with her..would it have been rape or consensual?

even at my age now i'd consent to being rapped.

If a man would take the time to get to know the girl/woman before having sex with her he would be less likely to run into this problem. It is his fault if he doesn't know how old she is.

You know throughout history women have been held responsible for the "keeping" of men's penises. In other words "if she hadn't have let him" or "he is just being a man" or "if she would have kept her legs closed none of this would have happened". You don't hear them tell men this same thing or a male equivalent. Just like abortions, if we fed men salt peter on a regular there wouldn't be any abortions, men don't like it when I say that but it is true.

This is almost the one law that holds men responsible for where their penis goes and it is a problem for them somehow.

ID those women. Meet their family so you can verify their age. Offer to pick them up from work so you know they are not in school all day. Listen to her when she talks, she will tell on herself. Take your time and no drunken one nighters or you may reap what you sow.

Look, us women have to take the consequences if we choose a liar to mess with.

I do understand this, but the issue there is that can easily be taken way too far. At some point you can become overprotective, there's a fine line there. It's a line that anymore is all too often crossed, not allowing the child to learn and grow.

Example, in high school sports on down, there is an often invoked rule called the mercy rule, where if a team is down by a certain amount at a particular point in the game, the game speeds up so it can end, or in the case of baseball and softball ends outright. It is said this is done to protect the kids from an embarassing loss, but to me it does nothing beneficial at all.

1. It actually embarasses them more, because it tells them they are so bad, that the game has to end so it won't get worse, instead of letting them play it to a finish legitimately.

2. It teaches them that when life gets hard, they can just quit and someone will take mercy on them. That obviously is false, so what good is a message like that? When life gets tough, you have to be strong and pull through no matter what obstacles, so too should it be in sports if you wanna have a building block for your life going forward. They aren't gonna learn how to overcome adversity if they aren't given the chance to know what I mean?

So in theory, the idea of protecting kids is a good thing, but you have to be very careful not to overprotect, because then they won't know much of anything due to not being able to really experience things that will help them learn and mature. That is to say, they have to be allowed to make their own mistakes, cause they won't learn if they don't.

yeah, it is...seems the women offenders target their students.
Not all, just sayin. Many times these boys and girls the female teachers are with are as young as 12. There is something about it
being their teachers that bothers me.
I'm referring more to the couple year age difference with the
boys, men..in more consensual situations.

There was the one barbie doll teacher that didn't get prison time because "she was too hot..and she wouldn't be safe." She continued to contact the boy and the threats of prison were there, never followed up on what happened with her.

If you would have had the hot teacher and had the opportunity to have teen age boy sex with her..would it have been rape or consensual?