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Sadly, the use of "for the good of all" is usually a control scheme. Yeap.. also a perfect description of The Patriot Act as the US people were lead to believe.. President George W. Bush was the Bestest # 20 presidunt of em Aww. The people that voted for him is also the BESTEST! Agreed here also. It is not funny how the fight for freedom wages on in other countries who don't threaten our freedom at all, the whole while the government is slowly stripping them at home while the soldiers are distracted. 
Starting to connect the dots? |
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Agreed here also. It is not funny how the fight for freedom wages on in other countries who don't threaten our freedom at all, the whole while the government is slowly stripping them at home while the soldiers are distracted.
More Useless Knowledge... I only found out after I enlisted that once you are in the military, all your rights to protest are stripped away. If you do so in public, your gluteus maximus will be sent to a quite time out. Might have been my fault but do you know how freaking big those enlistment packets are?? I use to work in the Operations sector of Military Enlistments and we freaking kill trees faster than Jesus can turn water into wine. Probably about as big as those bills the government passes. In each case, they are so big that it's almost impossible to read through it all before you vote on it. Coincidence? I think not. |
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Sadly, the use of "for the good of all" is usually a control scheme. Yeap.. also a perfect description of The Patriot Act as the US people were lead to believe.. President George W. Bush was the Bestest # 20 presidunt of em Aww. The people that voted for him is also the BESTEST! Agreed here also. It is not funny how the fight for freedom wages on in other countries who don't threaten our freedom at all, the whole while the government is slowly stripping them at home while the soldiers are distracted.
Starting to connect the dots? If dots are the patriot act? |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Wed 06/01/11 07:35 PM
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Sadly, the use of "for the good of all" is usually a control scheme. Yeap.. also a perfect description of The Patriot Act as the US people were lead to believe.. President George W. Bush was the Bestest # 20 presidunt of em Aww. The people that voted for him is also the BESTEST! Agreed here also. It is not funny how the fight for freedom wages on in other countries who don't threaten our freedom at all, the whole while the government is slowly stripping them at home while the soldiers are distracted.
Starting to connect the dots? If dots are the patriot act? What I mean is, the real reason this war ever started in the first place, the real reason for the war on terror and what not. What you described above is pretty much it in short form. The entire thing has been fear based to get us to bend to their will from the very beginning. |
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Probably about as big as those bills the government passes. In each case, they are so big that it's almost impossible to read through it all before you vote on it. Coincidence? I think not. Hehe.. that is apart of it... Useless Knowledge!!! In order to pass some unwanted bills that one party knows that the other one will reject, they would.. lets say... Attach this bill... "Leash your Kids while in public Areas like a dog!".. with one that is more favorable " Free Money!, More Money!".. Another way they do it is.. suppose you have a bill that will be able to strip away all your rights, send you to prison without due process.. etc.. which would you vote for?.. the "I Hate cute little Babies Act," or the "Vote for me or you Hate cute little Babies Act"? Or you can just go old school by lining the pockets of the politics or even promise them a 7 figure job after they get out of office. Common now.. the Government will never do such a dreadful thing! |
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heh Correction..
politician not politics |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Wed 06/01/11 07:41 PM
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Probably about as big as those bills the government passes. In each case, they are so big that it's almost impossible to read through it all before you vote on it. Coincidence? I think not. Hehe.. that is apart of it... Useless Knowledge!!! In order to pass some unwanted bills that one party knows that the other one will reject, they would.. lets say... Attach this bill... "Leash your Kids while in public Areas like a dog!".. with one that is more favorable " Free Money!, More Money!".. Another way they do it is.. suppose you have a bill that will be able to strip away all your rights, send you to prison without due process.. etc.. which would you vote for?.. the "I Hate cute little Babies Act," or the "Vote for me or you Hate cute little Babies Act"? Or you can just go old school by lining the pockets of the politics or even promise them a 7 figure job after they get out of office. Common now.. the Government will never do such a dreadful thing! On the last one, this was part of what they used to help pass the healthcare bill. So it definitely is still relevant. Hadn't thought so much about the party lines thing though, given I feel they are more or less one in the same and just act opposed for show. But could be something I am missing there. Spot on with the others though. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Wed 06/01/11 08:03 PM
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That's just wrong.
But you have to understand. This country is run by CRIMINALS. Total criminals. The Fed, The IRS, The CIA, The infamous and untouchable CROWN, THE COMPANY, The Bilderberg Group, The United Nations, The Pentagon, The Trilateral Commission, And the SHADOW GOVERNMENT.(Run mostly by Jews.. of the draconian royal bloodlines, not the religious Jews.) BIG P.S. AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Wed 06/01/11 08:05 PM
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Jeannie beat me to it lol.
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Wed 06/01/11 08:14 PM
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LOL
We have to learn and adjust and realize that we are basically screwed. There will be no real justice except what they are kind enough to dish out. But where it really matters, we are just screwed. We can only attempt to live within the system of criminals as best we can and smile and pretend we believe in freedom and justice for all. Like the Gazelle , we keep on grazing in the grass, keeping our eyes out for the lions. 
But basically we are all just cattle or prey for the lizards and lions. |
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LOL We have to learn and adjust and realize that we are basically screwed. There will be no real justice except what they are kind enough to dish out. But where it really matters, we are just screwed. We can only attempt to live within the system of criminals as best we can and smile and pretend we believe in freedom and justice for all. Like the Gazelle , we keep on grazing in the grass, keeping our eyes out for the lions.
But basically we are all just cattle or prey for the lizards and lions. Way to get all depressing Jeannie lol. 
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people will always be spiritual and those who do not or cannot satisfy their spirituality will seek ways to do so, I think, even if they are not aware of it.
It is ignorance of the religion that usually causes more problems and misuse of the religious faith -in other words human foible that causes problems with religion Religions themselves as moral and spiritual guides are quite intelligent, really. Many of the values we hold as "morals" are based in our religious history - and absorbed into our secular culture - but actually origin is in religion - our "family values" in the US is just one small example of how Judeo-Christian values have permeated our secular culture So I have never had a problem with my religion which is Catholicism as it means "Universal" and I like the open to all philosphy. But I do have problems with many of the ways that people misuse their religion - hence I haven't stepped foot inside a church is ages I think the Christ himself would explode in a fit of rage if he were to see a "televangelist" grubbing for $$$$ or the "touchdown Jesus" statue on route 75 between Cincinnati & Dayton, Ohio, or fragile habitat destroyed in his name to build yet another unecessary building when the wealth could be put to much better use.... so there 's my 2 cents that kinda turned into a lot of 2 cents
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Just being real.
When you know you walk among criminals, at least you are fore warned. |
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Edited by
Uselessknowledge
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Wed 06/01/11 09:35 PM
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people will always be spiritual and those who do not or cannot satisfy their spirituality will seek ways to do so, I think, even if they are not aware of it. Young Lady.. You done just started something... This is what happens when you can't satisfy it! just ask Bush. And Yes! that is a blunt! |
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people will always be spiritual and those who do not or cannot satisfy their spirituality will seek ways to do so, I think, even if they are not aware of it. Young Lady.. You done just started something... This is what happens when you can't satisfy it! just ask Bush. And Yes! that is a blunt! Careful that'll get you in trouble, both from the religious and the police lol. |
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Nah.. Drugs were the basis for most of the older religions.
With the current rate of this economy; no way they ganna add me to the prison population! 
Seee.. NO room! and also 
No Asians! |
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Just FYI.. I've tried it; and totally believe that its' legalization would be better than keeping it illegal!
yea.. this little group they call the US Military wouldn't like it too much if I'd smoke the hash or partake in the Special Brownies! Even if I was out, it's not for me and I wouldn't do it.
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I was thinking more along the lines of a designated place and time either before or after school to have something like that, and those that wanted to attend could, those that didn't didn't have to.
Right. When a congregation gathers together and instead of saying a prayer, they opt for a "moment of silence" everyone knows what's going on. Everyone is thinking, yeh right, we can't pray out loud so we have to have a moment of awkward silence. But if they announced that they were gathering for a moment of silence would anyone come? I doubt it. Even religious people would think that is a waste of their time. Personally I would not mind a public prayer in school as long as it was to God and not to a specific God like Lucifer, Allah, Jehovah, Jesus, etc. But an atheist has every right to object to that. thats another assumption, which I dont think children make when I was told in school that we had to be quiet , thats all I took it as I think in modern schools, if a student chose to bow their head during those times, there might be an issue,, and I dont think THAT is just,,, OH BULL CRAP. There might be an "issue" if a student chose to bow their head? Are you serious???? You Still don't know what the issue is about if you think that. It is about SAYING OUT LOUD to a captive audience of mixed religious people "In Jesus name we pray..." or even praying to God in front of a captive audience of atheists. Its not about what a person does on his own. Please tell me you understand this or I am going to start thinking it has something to do with 'intelligence." p.s. --and if it is an issue with anyone, then that person is just plain ignorant. its about tone, and volume, and speech,, for me its similar to a private conversation between me and a friend, if others choose to EAVESDROP That is one thing, If I am speaking at a tone that OTHERS can hear, that is another similarly with prayer, speaking it silently does not require anyone to be an 'audience', as people can choose to watch what they and whom they wish to wash The issue there is, you're still making them a part of the whole exercise, whether they pray or not. They have no option to opt out of the thing entirely. there are always options |
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I was thinking more along the lines of a designated place and time either before or after school to have something like that, and those that wanted to attend could, those that didn't didn't have to.
Right. When a congregation gathers together and instead of saying a prayer, they opt for a "moment of silence" everyone knows what's going on. Everyone is thinking, yeh right, we can't pray out loud so we have to have a moment of awkward silence. But if they announced that they were gathering for a moment of silence would anyone come? I doubt it. Even religious people would think that is a waste of their time. Personally I would not mind a public prayer in school as long as it was to God and not to a specific God like Lucifer, Allah, Jehovah, Jesus, etc. But an atheist has every right to object to that. thats another assumption, which I dont think children make when I was told in school that we had to be quiet , thats all I took it as I think in modern schools, if a student chose to bow their head during those times, there might be an issue,, and I dont think THAT is just,,, OH BULL CRAP. There might be an "issue" if a student chose to bow their head? Are you serious???? You Still don't know what the issue is about if you think that. It is about SAYING OUT LOUD to a captive audience of mixed religious people "In Jesus name we pray..." or even praying to God in front of a captive audience of atheists. Its not about what a person does on his own. Please tell me you understand this or I am going to start thinking it has something to do with 'intelligence." p.s. --and if it is an issue with anyone, then that person is just plain ignorant. its about tone, and volume, and speech,, for me its similar to a private conversation between me and a friend, if others choose to EAVESDROP That is one thing, If I am speaking at a tone that OTHERS can hear, that is another similarly with prayer, speaking it silently does not require anyone to be an 'audience', as people can choose to watch what they and whom they wish to wash The issue there is, you're still making them a part of the whole exercise, whether they pray or not. They have no option to opt out of the thing entirely. there are always options You're not getting the point. By doing it where EVERYONE is a part of it, even if they don't pray in that moment, they don't have a choice! If you wanna do prayer things or whatever, let people choose if they wanna attend or not. Not that hard. |
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I was thinking more along the lines of a designated place and time either before or after school to have something like that, and those that wanted to attend could, those that didn't didn't have to.
Right. When a congregation gathers together and instead of saying a prayer, they opt for a "moment of silence" everyone knows what's going on. Everyone is thinking, yeh right, we can't pray out loud so we have to have a moment of awkward silence. But if they announced that they were gathering for a moment of silence would anyone come? I doubt it. Even religious people would think that is a waste of their time. Personally I would not mind a public prayer in school as long as it was to God and not to a specific God like Lucifer, Allah, Jehovah, Jesus, etc. But an atheist has every right to object to that. thats another assumption, which I dont think children make when I was told in school that we had to be quiet , thats all I took it as I think in modern schools, if a student chose to bow their head during those times, there might be an issue,, and I dont think THAT is just,,, OH BULL CRAP. There might be an "issue" if a student chose to bow their head? Are you serious???? You Still don't know what the issue is about if you think that. It is about SAYING OUT LOUD to a captive audience of mixed religious people "In Jesus name we pray..." or even praying to God in front of a captive audience of atheists. Its not about what a person does on his own. Please tell me you understand this or I am going to start thinking it has something to do with 'intelligence." p.s. --and if it is an issue with anyone, then that person is just plain ignorant. its about tone, and volume, and speech,, for me its similar to a private conversation between me and a friend, if others choose to EAVESDROP That is one thing, If I am speaking at a tone that OTHERS can hear, that is another similarly with prayer, speaking it silently does not require anyone to be an 'audience', as people can choose to watch what they and whom they wish to wash The issue there is, you're still making them a part of the whole exercise, whether they pray or not. They have no option to opt out of the thing entirely. there are always options You're not getting the point. By doing it where EVERYONE is a part of it, even if they don't pray in that moment, they don't have a choice! If you wanna do prayer things or whatever, let people choose if they wanna attend or not. Not that hard. I get it ,there is STILL a choice, I have been in groups where EVERYONE was swearing, I still had the choice not to do so and took it,,,, there are ALWAYS choices, the only fact of the matter is how desirable of undesirable those choices are,, and thats life |
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