What is it that they model - I don't understand?

Do you do your own laundry, cook, clean? My heterosexual parents taught both my brother and I what we would need to know to be self-sufficient. My 6'4" football playing brother could iron anything and he wasn't going to starve. I can change the oil in my car, hell give me an old car and I can rig a caborator too and change the spark plugs.

I know several men who stay home and do housework and take care of the kids becuse the wife is an executive who has to travel.

So exactly what is being modeled that makes it imperitive, in your mind, for a child to grow up seeing?

Explain it more thoroughly please. What behaviors and attitudes are specifically male and specifically female and why is that important in a child's home life?

I would ask you the same questions in my previous posts above this one as to what you thing is so different about the behaviors, and attitutdes between makles and femailes and why a child should see these displayed in their home life?

What is similar and different between a male or female prostitute, a person or a couple with a drug dependancy, and a SS couple joined by marriage or civil union. Please compare and contract so we can all perceive these things - at least from your point of view.

That a question I'm trying to find the answer to. I hope either you or Msharmony will share a response.

You're asking the wrong person. I'm saying there is no difference.

the difference is in their hormones, their biology, their cultural roles as MOTHER vs FATHER, or AUNT vs UNCLE

they are a compliment to each other BIOLOGICALLY, because of those differences, which are as 'common sense' to me as the similarities are 'common sense' to others

similarity and difference can coexist

Are you saying that we LEARN to be masculine and feminine; that there is nothing inherent to gender that affects our thoughts and behaviors?

How do the kids in single parent households learn to be masculine and feminine?

Msharmony I will say this again. I hope you read it this time.


Prostitution is ILLEGAL. That can't be a good environment for a child. Mommy would have to be bailed out of jail, her pimp might beat her up, etc. LOL

Being homosexual is not illegal. They are not breaking the laws.


As Red said, if you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem.

Children and families are being discriminated against as far as benefits are concerned.

ok, so an extremely promiscuous woman GIVING IT AWAY for free with no risk of being incarcerated'

would be no further down on the list to adopt a child than a nun?

lifestyle does at some points intersect with raising children and parens lifestyles are and should be considered in deciding the better or BEST envronment for the child

it is idealistic to insist that ALL that is needed is love, but its not realistic or true,,,

it may be discriminating against potential parents, but its not discriminating against children to try and place them with the best parental environment

We don't see hormones and I never saw my father or mother naked - did you?

Cultureal roles? You might want to explain that better, particually why you think male or female role models would be lacking in the life of a child raised in a SS household

The rest of what you said is laughable. Do think a child in a single parent household lacks a world full of role models of either sex?
Why would a child in a SS household have any lack of opposite sex role models?

The straws you grasp for seem to be very short.

but the bottom line is , the charity placed children in loving homes, the criteria they used were LATER deemed to be not permitted, they didnt want to change the criteria so they got out

thats really the end of it, cant change what was done, can only learn from it, and of the options they had, to place children in homes they GENUINELY Felt werent a healthy environment, or to go along with what SOCIETY Insists they should agree is healthy

they did right by bowing out,,,

So explain what msharmony failed to. What is this role model think you are stuck on. What is its funcion and how does help or hurt a child who does not have both a male and female adult in their household?

thats alot of assuming...

I have no absolute standard about people , there are situations that happen planned and unplanned which CAN work despite the odds against it

so no, Im not opposed to homosexuals raising THEIR (biological) children. I am opposed to homosexuals raising OTHER children IF there are other options available.

I have not voted on equal marriage legislation, as I believe the government should stay out of relationships(neither endorsing nor condemning them) EXCEPT the relationships which create future citizens

I have voted on civil unions however for those who wish merely to have similar LEGAL privileges as a married couple. I would love a time when any two adults, whether related or not, whether best friends, whether same sex or opposite sex, who merely want civil privileges will be permitted into such a union and visit each other in hospitals, get benefits, or all the other privileges that legally apply to marriage because of the commitment to a lifelong UNION that is implied.

the solution cliche is cute, but not quite accurate

it usually means if you are not part of MY solution, you are part of the problem,,,but people dont all come to the same conclusions about what the 'solution' is,,,

You personally have a right to your opinion. And you personally are neither part of the problem or solution.

It is that typical type of thinking, lack of information and knowledge, fear of the unknown, lack of understanding of the problem as a whole etc. that is part of the problem.

you are free to your assumptions and opinions as am I, we will not agree on this one

men and women are different, no matter how un pc it is to admit it, and its beautiful that they are

we dont have to be THE EXACT SAME to be equally significant

its no less significant to have someone who keeps the house clean than it is to have someone provides

it is MATHEMATICALLY logical to determine that its probably easier for TWO people to split the responsibilities of raising a child than for one person to try to stretch themself,,,

these are not straws, these are as valid points as the point that people should make no distinction between male and female and that children have no benefit from having both of the people who created them, all of who THEY are themself, nurturing that full self thoughout their life, and even best if they are doing it together, daily.

I agree, and hindsight is twenty twenty. We will just have to wait a generation and two to see how it all turns out.

LIFESTYLE - what are you talking about?

Have you even bothered to look up the criteria that ANY state might use for foster care or adoption? Do you know the rigorous routines, the programs, and lenght of time and all that people have to go through to be considered for either of these programs.

You have no idea the stress, the heartache, ther trials, and even sometimes the trauma that can be involved. And there you are throwing these idea around inserting prostituion and drug addictions, haphazardly as if the whole world views THOSE PEOPLE in some underworld light.

MY first reaction here was to say --- Shame on you - an all time low for you , I must say.

But then I understand that you are grasping at straws to make points for for which there is not rational view. So I can only assume you have, as you have done in the past, not bothered to look up and ACTUAL inforamtion about this discussion.

Definately not a good role model for MyLifeToday, but then he only needs to look in the mirror to find his hero. Where do you look for your heros?