Can't answer for him, but for myself:

Because bigotry is wrong.

Not saying, definitely, that you are a bigot - but the arguments you make are aligned with the arguments of bigots.

I said "probably." This means that it is my opinion and conclusion. If you can prove otherwise then it remains my conclusion on the grounds when someone is raise by parents, if they are loving parents, they tend to love their parents back.

As far as any of your "what ifs" .... what kids don't sometimes resent their parents? Especially strict parents?

There are good and bad parents and sexual orientation have nothing to do with whether parents are good or bad at parenting. DUH!!!

so, it is 2011. What does that have to do with anything?

We are more enlightened now and the thought that a heterosexual couple is good is no longer valid because we are more accepting as a society?

I didn't say homosexuals can't be good parents. I said kids would be better off in a heterosexual home with a male and female role model.

I bet he would not want people of the Muslim faith to adopt a white child either.

I bet he would not want people who worshiped Lucifer to adopt children either.

What's next? People who read tarot cards?

You still have not answered my question about why you think that.

Once again you are making yourself as the victim. Nobody is saying that a heterosexual couple is bad for raising a kid, that's just asinine and you know it. We are simply saying, that homosexual couples deserve the same chance to raise a kid as a heterosexual couple does.

That's what is meant by saying it's 2011. It's time to change how we think and get rid of old arachic ideas that simply don't work.

I'm not backpedaling.

If you care to look, I always said kids are better off in a heterosexual home. I never said that a homosexual home is bad.

This whole debate stared because the Catholic church was forced to decide if allowing a homosexual couple adopt was better than closing their doors. Each was an equally abhorrent choice they had to make. They had to choose the lessor of two evils. Renounce one of their tenants as being false. That is a church body standing up and saying, "We are wrong on what sin is." Or, abandon their cause to help children.

Anyone that thinks they made this decision lightly is not thinking about what the BOD had to debate when making this decision.

I guess I imagined it every time then.

I have heard a news story like that on ABC, NBC or CBS at least 6 times.

you can deny it if you like. I know what I heard which is in part why I hold my opinion.

Now you're just twisting words, cause you infer that the homosexual home is bad, when you suggest a heterosexual home is better. You can't get around that.

As for the church, I'd say perhaps admitting they were wrong would be an improvement, because they are, but that's just me.

Why don't we just make a list of people who might not be as acceptable as a heterosexual couple.

Is being heterosexual the only requirement for the best possible couple for adopting a child?

Or would a Christian couple where the man had a great income and the woman was a home maker be the best possible couple.

Wouldn't that be better than most other kinds of couples?

What you are is old world traditional.

You like marriage, the man works, the woman cooks and cleans and raises the children. Ozzie and Harriet. Little house on the Prairie. Typical family values kind of guy.

Yes, in a perfect world maybe according to you.

But that is not the real world.

I believe you heard such a thing.
But there is a lot of propaganda on the news.
Studies like this are done with people who have agenda's.

If you can't name these people and name the study you can't present it as evidence to me. It is as if there were no studies.

So, there were no studies if I cannot investigate them.

Um, because there is a male and female roll model to grow up with... Didn't I already say that a few times?

You still have not answered my question about why you think that.

THATS YOUR ANSWER?

Why is that better? Are these people living in the sticks that the child does not know what a male and female are??

And how do you know there would be no male and female role models in the child's life?

Anyway, you have your opinions and they are very typical opinions.

Many people agree with you in fact.

But I'm done with this conversation.

Nice chatting with you all.

I dont get that inferrence at all, IF I say that having a two parent home is better (statistically gives better results) than a one parent home,, does that mean a one parent home is BAD

bad and good are extremes with a grey area between them, that is how we can have GOOD , BETTER, and BEST

something being better doesnt mean the other thing(s) are bad

Raising a kid in a heterosexual environment doesn't work?

Why doesn't it? That is what I have been arguing here. A heterosexual family is better for the kid than a homosexual one because there is both a male and female role model.

How is it that is an archaic idea that doesn't work? The only negative to that statement would be to change it to say a heterosexual family is worse for the kid than a homosexual one. That is what your statement means...

no, I just like to give the kids the best possible ODDS when it comes to foresight, instead of waiting until after , when the damage is done, and having HINDSIGHT


why not strive to be MORE perfect than less even if PERFECTION Itself is unachievable?

why not choose BETTER instead of just GOOD

if a child can have a parent with a good income who can stay home and spend quality time with them, isnt that BETTER than one who merely has a parent with a GOOD income or MERELY one who stays home with little to no income?

its a matter of DEGREES of advantage and opportunity that children have in different situations, it has nothing to do with whether those situations are 'bad'

No, that is your interpretation of what I mean by better.

Levels are good - better - best.

I have been thinking all along that a homosexual family can be good. You did not know what was in my head.




Are you now the arbiter of what is right and wrong?

No, don't put damn words in my mouth. You are constantly doing that! I am NOT saying that raising a kid heterosexual doesn't work, obviously it can and does. But a homosexual can work just as well given the chance.

When I speak of archaic ideas, it's the notion that gender has that big a role on parenting vs. the parents ability to raise period, that needs to go away.