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Topic: Humans, Humans we have gone through enough
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Wed 06/01/11 11:01 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 06/01/11 11:05 AM


It is impossible for Christianity to "brainwash" anyone.


True. Christianity is a religion not a priest or preacher or brainwasher. It can't really do the brainwashing.



A person is only a Christian when the have WILLINGLY chosen to follow after Jesus.


Then nobody is a Christian because nobody is following after Jesus.
Instead, they are looking up to the sky waiting for him to return.
Jesus said, "Where I go you cannot follow..."

Someone can not be "persuaded" or "converted" until they absolutely believe in the first place.


Wrong. If that were true nobody would be preaching and trying to persuade anyone to convert.


I could tell you Jesus is the only path to heaven, can that statement "brainwash" you? No it can not, it only has any form of control over you once you first give credit to it. You first choose to believe it before it could ever have any form of power over you. So, again as you see it is literally impossible to be brainwashed by religion.


If you want to convince people of anything like the above, you need to learn more about brainwashing and persuasion.

BTW what are you trying to convince people on this forum of?

Oh yeh..!! that you aren't preaching, you are just having a discussion.

I've heard that so many times I'm beginning to believe it.

You are brain washing!! meshocked


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Wed 06/01/11 11:09 AM
Edited by funches on Wed 06/01/11 11:16 AM
Being a Christian involves no doctrine in exacts. You could be informed of Christ verbally and taught all about him verbally without ever reading any doctrine and accept Jesus into your heart


Cowboy...you said that all the babies was on Noah's Ark....this prove that you are being taught a false gospel...it you actually had Jesus iin your heart you would pick up the bible and learn instead of getting your information from Satan websites

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Wed 06/01/11 11:09 AM
Edited by funches on Wed 06/01/11 11:30 AM



You only half listen to what you want while discussing. I never said I wasn't Christian. I said I do not take that title on my own. I am a servant of Jesus our Christ. If you wish to call that a Christian, so be it. I don't follow the teachings of "Christianity" or anything man made. I follow the teachings of Jesus our lord.


Cowboy 1..2...and 3

which one of you Cowboys are Christian and which ones are not


lol, you're a great man funches. Full of humor.


I'm for real...let's get it on record...are you a Christian or not

allow me to explain why I've asked you that question ....it's to prove to you that you are in a religion and belong to a religious (cult) and therefore have been programmed to answer yes to the question because to answer no would be denouncing the works of Jesus

so come on Cowboy....are you a Christian yes or no ....please say "No"

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Wed 06/01/11 11:50 AM



It is impossible for Christianity to "brainwash" anyone.


True. Christianity is a religion not a priest or preacher or brainwasher. It can't really do the brainwashing.



A person is only a Christian when the have WILLINGLY chosen to follow after Jesus.


Then nobody is a Christian because nobody is following after Jesus.
Instead, they are looking up to the sky waiting for him to return.
Jesus said, "Where I go you cannot follow..."

Someone can not be "persuaded" or "converted" until they absolutely believe in the first place.


Wrong. If that were true nobody would be preaching and trying to persuade anyone to convert.


I could tell you Jesus is the only path to heaven, can that statement "brainwash" you? No it can not, it only has any form of control over you once you first give credit to it. You first choose to believe it before it could ever have any form of power over you. So, again as you see it is literally impossible to be brainwashed by religion.


If you want to convince people of anything like the above, you need to learn more about brainwashing and persuasion.

BTW what are you trying to convince people on this forum of?

Oh yeh..!! that you aren't preaching, you are just having a discussion.

I've heard that so many times I'm beginning to believe it.

You are brain washing!! meshocked





Then nobody is a Christian because nobody is following after Jesus.
Instead, they are looking up to the sky waiting for him to return.
Jesus said, "Where I go you cannot follow..."


What in the world are you talking about? lol. Jesus didn't say that, if I'm wrong and he did, please enlighten us. Jesus said he was the path, the way to God. No one comes to our father but by him. So with that Jesus says "Where I go, you can follow". We follow Jesus, we follow the path to our father.


Wrong. If that were true nobody would be preaching and trying to persuade anyone to convert.


No one preaches to persuade. Where is preaching done? Is it not done in a church? Who goes into a church? Is it not generally believers? If believers are going to church to hear preaching, what are they being persuaded of? They already believe. Preaching is for teaching, worshiping, and praising. People being preached to already believe, no need to persuade them.



If you want to convince people of anything like the above, you need to learn more about brainwashing and persuasion.

BTW what are you trying to convince people on this forum of?


What in the world are you on about? We have "discussions" in this forum. I'm not trying to persuade you I'm right and you're wrong, not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just come to share my beliefs. If you are not here to just share your beliefs, what are you here for? Guess, you're feeling guilty of trying to convince people of your spiritual beliefs, for you believe everyone else is trying to do the same. We're just having a discussion, not a debate. That is the difference between a discussion and a debate. A discussion two parties are just sharing with the other what they believe. A debate is two parties trying to prove their side to be right.

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Wed 06/01/11 11:52 AM

Being a Christian involves no doctrine in exacts. You could be informed of Christ verbally and taught all about him verbally without ever reading any doctrine and accept Jesus into your heart


Cowboy...you said that all the babies was on Noah's Ark....this prove that you are being taught a false gospel...it you actually had Jesus iin your heart you would pick up the bible and learn instead of getting your information from Satan websites


Yes lol, and since you feel like running around like a broken record I will as well. I realize I said this, and I'm again sorry for my ignorance of thought and saying something without truly thinking about what was being said. lol, why you trying to beat a dead horse?

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Wed 06/01/11 11:55 AM




You only half listen to what you want while discussing. I never said I wasn't Christian. I said I do not take that title on my own. I am a servant of Jesus our Christ. If you wish to call that a Christian, so be it. I don't follow the teachings of "Christianity" or anything man made. I follow the teachings of Jesus our lord.


Cowboy 1..2...and 3

which one of you Cowboys are Christian and which ones are not


lol, you're a great man funches. Full of humor.


I'm for real...let's get it on record...are you a Christian or not

allow me to explain why I've asked you that question ....it's to prove to you that you are in a religion and belong to a religious (cult) and therefore have been programmed to answer yes to the question because to answer no would be denouncing the works of Jesus

so come on Cowboy....are you a Christian yes or no ....please say "No"



Yes I am a Christian in the exact root of the word. I wish to be Christ like, I wish to be like Jesus. As Jesus was right in the way he behaved I wish to as well. Jesus is the model of my life. I know I would never ever reach the level of his greatness. But why not try? Why not try to treat the world with unconditional love? Since that is what he has told us to do anyways, why not? I'm not a Christian cause I chose to take that title in that exact sense. I'm a Christian because I choose to try to do my best for our lord Jesus Christ. I follow what Jesus says before I follow what man has to say.

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Wed 06/01/11 12:00 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 06/01/11 12:01 PM
What in the world are you on about? We have "discussions" in this forum. I'm not trying to persuade you I'm right and you're wrong, not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just come to share my beliefs. If you are not here to just share your beliefs, what are you here for? Guess, you're feeling guilty of trying to convince people of your spiritual beliefs, for you believe everyone else is trying to do the same. We're just having a discussion, not a debate. That is the difference between a discussion and a debate. A discussion two parties are just sharing with the other what they believe. A debate is two parties trying to prove their side to be right.



You completely missed the point. I was demonstrating what you are trying to convince people of. You ignored the whole point of my post. You are mostly trying to CONVINCE people that you are not preaching. You are STILL DOING IT! You can't stop.

You are still trying to convince people you are "just sharing your beliefs" and "just having a discussion."

You have said it over and over and over and over and over.....

That is brainwashing.

This was my point that you missed and ignored:


Oh yeh..!! that you aren't preaching, you are just having a discussion.

I've heard that so many times I'm beginning to believe it.

You are brain washing!! me


Instead you continued your rant about how we are only having "discussions!" And about how you are not trying to persuade me that you are right and I am wrong.

Yes you are.

You are trying to persuade me that you are not preaching and that you are 'just having discussions."

Your repeating of that over and over and over and over....

.that's how brainwashing is done.

I hope you have learned what brainwashing is now.

Now I need to go find a de-programmer for myself.frustrated



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Wed 06/01/11 12:04 PM

What in the world are you on about? We have "discussions" in this forum. I'm not trying to persuade you I'm right and you're wrong, not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just come to share my beliefs. If you are not here to just share your beliefs, what are you here for? Guess, you're feeling guilty of trying to convince people of your spiritual beliefs, for you believe everyone else is trying to do the same. We're just having a discussion, not a debate. That is the difference between a discussion and a debate. A discussion two parties are just sharing with the other what they believe. A debate is two parties trying to prove their side to be right.



You completely missed the point. I was demonstrating what you are trying to convince people of. You ignored the whole point of my post. You are mostly trying to CONVINCE people that you are not preaching. You are STILL DOING IT! You can't stop.

You are still trying to convince people you are "just sharing your beliefs" and "just having a discussion."

You have said it over and over and over and over and over.....

That is brainwashing.

This was my point that you missed and ignored:


Oh yeh..!! that you aren't preaching, you are just having a discussion.

I've heard that so many times I'm beginning to believe it.

You are brain washing!! me


Instead you continued your rant about how we are only having "discussions!" And about how you are not trying to persuade me that you are right and I am wrong.

Yes you are.

You are trying to persuade me that you are not preaching and that you are 'just having discussions."

Your repeating of that over and over and over and over....

.that's how brainwashing is done.

I hope you have learned what brainwashing is now.

Now I need to go find a de-programmer for myself.frustrated





No one's trying to convince you of anything, no one's trying to persuade you of anything. Just merely sharing beliefs. You share yours, we share ours. Doesn't matter if you believe as we do or not, just sharing. So please quit trying to brainwash us to not believing.

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Wed 06/01/11 12:17 PM


Being a Christian involves no doctrine in exacts. You could be informed of Christ verbally and taught all about him verbally without ever reading any doctrine and accept Jesus into your heart


Cowboy...you said that all the babies was on Noah's Ark....this prove that you are being taught a false gospel...it you actually had Jesus iin your heart you would pick up the bible and learn instead of getting your information from Satan websites


Yes lol, and since you feel like running around like a broken record I will as well. I realize I said this, and I'm again sorry for my ignorance of thought and saying something without truly thinking about what was being said. lol, why you trying to beat a dead horse?


all I'm suggesting is if you are going to preach the bible you should at least try reading if first instead of making up fake stories

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Wed 06/01/11 12:26 PM



Being a Christian involves no doctrine in exacts. You could be informed of Christ verbally and taught all about him verbally without ever reading any doctrine and accept Jesus into your heart


Cowboy...you said that all the babies was on Noah's Ark....this prove that you are being taught a false gospel...it you actually had Jesus iin your heart you would pick up the bible and learn instead of getting your information from Satan websites


Yes lol, and since you feel like running around like a broken record I will as well. I realize I said this, and I'm again sorry for my ignorance of thought and saying something without truly thinking about what was being said. lol, why you trying to beat a dead horse?


all I'm suggesting is if you are going to preach the bible you should at least try reading if first instead of making up fake stories


Still beating the dead horse. I learned that of which you speak. I know better now. I apologized for my ignorant statement.

I was once ignorant about that, I'm no longer. So please, move on man. Quit beating this poor dead horse.

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Wed 06/01/11 12:32 PM

Yes I am a Christian in the exact root of the word. I wish to be Christ like, I wish to be like Jesus. As Jesus was right in the way he behaved I wish to as well. Jesus is the model of my life. I know I would never ever reach the level of his greatness. But why not try? Why not try to treat the world with unconditional love? Since that is what he has told us to do anyways, why not? I'm not a Christian cause I chose to take that title in that exact sense. I'm a Christian because I choose to try to do my best for our lord Jesus Christ. I follow what Jesus says before I follow what man has to say.


Cowboy...thanks for explaining your religion ..when earlier you tried to claim that you didn't follow a religion

the Ten Commandments and the teaching of Jesus are that which forms The Christian Religion

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Wed 06/01/11 12:34 PM


Yes I am a Christian in the exact root of the word. I wish to be Christ like, I wish to be like Jesus. As Jesus was right in the way he behaved I wish to as well. Jesus is the model of my life. I know I would never ever reach the level of his greatness. But why not try? Why not try to treat the world with unconditional love? Since that is what he has told us to do anyways, why not? I'm not a Christian cause I chose to take that title in that exact sense. I'm a Christian because I choose to try to do my best for our lord Jesus Christ. I follow what Jesus says before I follow what man has to say.


Cowboy...thanks for explaining your religion ..when earlier you tried to claim that you didn't follow a religion

the Ten Commandments and the teaching of Jesus are that which forms The Christian Religion


But I do not follow exactly the "religion". I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. I belong to Jesus, not "Christianity".

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Wed 06/01/11 12:40 PM




Being a Christian involves no doctrine in exacts. You could be informed of Christ verbally and taught all about him verbally without ever reading any doctrine and accept Jesus into your heart


Cowboy...you said that all the babies was on Noah's Ark....this prove that you are being taught a false gospel...it you actually had Jesus iin your heart you would pick up the bible and learn instead of getting your information from Satan websites


Yes lol, and since you feel like running around like a broken record I will as well. I realize I said this, and I'm again sorry for my ignorance of thought and saying something without truly thinking about what was being said. lol, why you trying to beat a dead horse?


all I'm suggesting is if you are going to preach the bible you should at least try reading if first instead of making up fake stories


Still beating the dead horse. I learned that of which you speak. I know better now. I apologized for my ignorant statement.

I was once ignorant about that, I'm no longer. So please, move on man. Quit beating this poor dead horse.


if you haven't read the bible then you are still ignorant as to what it contains but yet you are in here trying to preach it....

I've make a deal with you ....you stop posting crap to me that's not in the bible then that dead horse will stop getting resurrected ...

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Wed 06/01/11 12:40 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 06/01/11 12:41 PM
No one's trying to convince you of anything, no one's trying to persuade you of anything. Just merely sharing beliefs. You share yours, we share ours. Doesn't matter if you believe as we do or not, just sharing. So please quit trying to brainwash us to not believing.



So, you are not trying to convince me that you are not preaching?

You are not trying to convince me that you are just having a discussion?

IF you are not, then why do you keep repeating it over and over and over??


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Wed 06/01/11 12:40 PM



Yes I am a Christian in the exact root of the word. I wish to be Christ like, I wish to be like Jesus. As Jesus was right in the way he behaved I wish to as well. Jesus is the model of my life. I know I would never ever reach the level of his greatness. But why not try? Why not try to treat the world with unconditional love? Since that is what he has told us to do anyways, why not? I'm not a Christian cause I chose to take that title in that exact sense. I'm a Christian because I choose to try to do my best for our lord Jesus Christ. I follow what Jesus says before I follow what man has to say.


Cowboy...thanks for explaining your religion ..when earlier you tried to claim that you didn't follow a religion

the Ten Commandments and the teaching of Jesus are that which forms The Christian Religion


But I do not follow exactly the "religion". I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. I belong to Jesus, not "Christianity".


Cowboy...name those teachings of Jesus that you actually follow everyday

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Wed 06/01/11 12:43 PM
Edited by funches on Wed 06/01/11 12:45 PM

But I do not follow exactly the "religion". I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. I belong to Jesus, not "Christianity".


the teachings of Jesus is a philosophy like Buddhism...it's the ten commandment that make it a religion ...that's why it's called The Christian Religion

a philosophy are laws or teachings handed down by man

a religion are laws or rules handed down by a supernatural entity

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Wed 06/01/11 12:44 PM





Being a Christian involves no doctrine in exacts. You could be informed of Christ verbally and taught all about him verbally without ever reading any doctrine and accept Jesus into your heart


Cowboy...you said that all the babies was on Noah's Ark....this prove that you are being taught a false gospel...it you actually had Jesus iin your heart you would pick up the bible and learn instead of getting your information from Satan websites


Yes lol, and since you feel like running around like a broken record I will as well. I realize I said this, and I'm again sorry for my ignorance of thought and saying something without truly thinking about what was being said. lol, why you trying to beat a dead horse?


all I'm suggesting is if you are going to preach the bible you should at least try reading if first instead of making up fake stories


Still beating the dead horse. I learned that of which you speak. I know better now. I apologized for my ignorant statement.

I was once ignorant about that, I'm no longer. So please, move on man. Quit beating this poor dead horse.


if you haven't read the bible then you are still ignorant as to what it contains but yet you are in here trying to preach it....

I've make a deal with you ....you stop posting crap to me that's not in the bible then that dead horse will stop getting resurrected ...


I have read the bible, and again I made one little mistake. This is my last response to this subject as it is pointless.

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Wed 06/01/11 12:46 PM

No one's trying to convince you of anything, no one's trying to persuade you of anything. Just merely sharing beliefs. You share yours, we share ours. Doesn't matter if you believe as we do or not, just sharing. So please quit trying to brainwash us to not believing.



So, you are not trying to convince me that you are not preaching?

You are not trying to convince me that you are just having a discussion?

IF you are not, then why do you keep repeating it over and over and over??




Because you continue to preach at me saying I'm preaching. So as to enlighten the other's that may possibly read these threads, I clearify I'm not preaching. Weather you believe that or not is meaningless.

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Wed 06/01/11 12:47 PM
Edited by funches on Wed 06/01/11 12:48 PM






Being a Christian involves no doctrine in exacts. You could be informed of Christ verbally and taught all about him verbally without ever reading any doctrine and accept Jesus into your heart


Cowboy...you said that all the babies was on Noah's Ark....this prove that you are being taught a false gospel...it you actually had Jesus iin your heart you would pick up the bible and learn instead of getting your information from Satan websites


Yes lol, and since you feel like running around like a broken record I will as well. I realize I said this, and I'm again sorry for my ignorance of thought and saying something without truly thinking about what was being said. lol, why you trying to beat a dead horse?


all I'm suggesting is if you are going to preach the bible you should at least try reading if first instead of making up fake stories


Still beating the dead horse. I learned that of which you speak. I know better now. I apologized for my ignorant statement.

I was once ignorant about that, I'm no longer. So please, move on man. Quit beating this poor dead horse.


if you haven't read the bible then you are still ignorant as to what it contains but yet you are in here trying to preach it....

I've make a deal with you ....you stop posting crap to me that's not in the bible then that dead horse will stop getting resurrected ...


I have read the bible, and again I made one little mistake. This is my last response to this subject as it is pointless.


jeez..it was hard getting you to admit that you read the bible ..when you were trying to suggest that you had no need to do so, but after that Noah's Ark story...perhpas the bible you must have read was the codex gigas or the devil's bible

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Wed 06/01/11 12:48 PM




Yes I am a Christian in the exact root of the word. I wish to be Christ like, I wish to be like Jesus. As Jesus was right in the way he behaved I wish to as well. Jesus is the model of my life. I know I would never ever reach the level of his greatness. But why not try? Why not try to treat the world with unconditional love? Since that is what he has told us to do anyways, why not? I'm not a Christian cause I chose to take that title in that exact sense. I'm a Christian because I choose to try to do my best for our lord Jesus Christ. I follow what Jesus says before I follow what man has to say.


Cowboy...thanks for explaining your religion ..when earlier you tried to claim that you didn't follow a religion

the Ten Commandments and the teaching of Jesus are that which forms The Christian Religion


But I do not follow exactly the "religion". I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. I belong to Jesus, not "Christianity".


Cowboy...name those teachings of Jesus that you actually follow everyday


I follow all of them. Yes I stumble from time to time and make mistakes occasionally, I'm not perfect. But all in all I try my best to follow every one of them.

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