I do agree. they are doing thier best to devide and conquer oon all fronts

What gets me about what's happening in Wisconsin is that the Governor has specifically EXCLUDED Police and Firefighters from the legislation that would take away public employee's collective bargaining rights.

If Governor Walker is so tough, why didn't he take on Police and Fire?

More interestingly, why would you suppose that he police and Fire Unions are supporting the protesters?

So much mis-information...

Please read the bill.

Then decide if all the flapping lips are telling you the truth.

(they are not)...

Please read the bill.

So do you think that people who don't want to belong to a local union should be forced to or lose their jobs?

Two sides to every argument...

Actually in a Unionised factory or business you can not get a job unless you are a member of the Union or agree to join the union...

or agree to work only on a temporary basis.

That is why I like 'right to work' states.

Personally, I don't like seeing scabs benefitting form the good stuff that labor unions got for them.

Really?

I know of a trucking company in Las Vegas that took very good care of their employees...

So much so that when the Teamsters attempted to 'organize' them the employees told them to take a hike.

The teamsters then PICKETED that company for several weeks, burned one employees Harley Sportster (Dispicable act - those ones did go to jail), cut tires on employees vehicles, followed people home and harrased them, blocked trucks from exiting the property to deliver loads and generally behaved like buttheads.

In the end they just gave up...

Because the owners of the company really did TAKE CARE of their employees.

That's a really fascinating story, but what does it have to do with my comment?

Standard practice for Unions have not changed since the days of Hoffa.

Scream and shout. Intimidate. Damage things when you don't get quick results...

Hold up signs with hatefull things written upon them.

Spit out lies to confuse everyone.

If the media is not painting you in a good light intimidate them also...

Most of all keep your members in the dark as to your true intentions.

It certainly wasn't like that with the Union I belonged to. Was it like that with the Union you belonged to? I think you have seen too many movies.

Exactly...
But even in "right to work" states, there are exceptions to the rule of choice, depending on negotiated contracts. And don't forget that employees who work in the railway or airline industries and most employees who work on/in a federal enclave are not protected by a Right to Work law.

what's wrong with that? Why should a scab have the same job opportunities that were made possible by labor unions?

Nope...

the last time I 'belonged' to a Union we (the workers) discovered that we were being paid several dollars an hour below the national average.

We asked the Union to help us. We were told that there was not enough money to support a walkout...

Two weeks later the same group of 'reps' came buy with petitions for us to sign for some bill the National office wanted to lobby in congress...

When (several months later) I got promoted into management and was no longer a part of the Union it was ME that went to bat for my employees when one of them was overworked and not allowed to take time off... The Union would not even address the problem. (then I was fired for getting involved in upper management decisions - but my man got his time off).

SCABS????

Would that be the same thing as people trying to feed their families??

Would you rather see them dead in the streets?

Would you call a person a scab, face to face, without a mob backing you up?

Sounds like you belonged to a crappy union. Sorry to hear that. Too bad you had to fight against your own company to get justice for that employee. That should have been the job of the union.

Why should I be forced to pay someone for the right to work?

I don't see you being forced to pay anything. You can always go to a different job.

Job opportunities are not made possible by labor unions... Jobs are made possible by someone that needs workers...

Labor Unions got better pay and working conditions but they do not 'create' jobs.