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Topic: No wonder liberals are so misinformed.
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Tue 02/08/11 09:36 AM


http://www.breitbart.tv/mall-cop-hoax-abc-news-sends-actor-posing-as-security-guard-to-challenge-az-illegal-immigration-law/

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Tue 02/08/11 09:50 AM
I'm afraid I don't see the connection. The video = why liberals are so misinformed? I thought the video charade was pretty straightforward and well disclosed. What's the "misinformed" part?

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Tue 02/08/11 09:58 AM

I'm afraid I don't see the connection. The video = why liberals are so misinformed? I thought the video charade was pretty straightforward and well disclosed. What's the "misinformed" part?


All of it! ABC news a supposed trusted news source telling everyone that police have the right to question people at random about their legal status. If you truly informed on the law you would not have asked your question. Police can only ask about immigration status if they have stopped someone for a moving violation or public intoxication, not because they are brown. And they can only ask if the people they have stopped are acting in a suspicious manner (which police ask more questions in that situation anyway) about their legal status. This kindergarten level "reporting" just proves that the liberal media lies blatantly and hates America.

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Tue 02/08/11 10:06 AM
This kindergarten level "reporting" just proves that the liberal media lies blatantly and hates America.
Whoooaa there, little cowboy! Aren't we getting our knockers in a knot, here? I never at any time believed that the staged scenario was a re-enactment of an actual situation.The impact on me was that there is at least one citizen of Arizona who doesn't like the Please-Show-Me-Your-papers law. Besides, this wasn't "reporting". This was an entertainment show.

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Tue 02/08/11 10:10 AM

This kindergarten level "reporting" just proves that the liberal media lies blatantly and hates America.
Whoooaa there, little cowboy! Aren't we getting our knockers in a knot, here? I never at any time believed that the staged scenario was a re-enactment of an actual situation.The impact on me was that there is at least one citizen of Arizona who doesn't like the Please-Show-Me-Your-papers law. Besides, this wasn't "reporting". This was an entertainment show.


I agree with your last statement which is how I feel about media in general.

metalwing's photo
Tue 02/08/11 01:01 PM

Besides, this wasn't "reporting". This was an entertainment show.


Your statement just proved the extent of your liberal bias. The show was produced by ABC News and was an undercover piece for the purpose of putting an undercover ABC news correspondent on national news.

Your statement is absolutely false and makes for an excellent example of the point being made by this thread.

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Tue 02/08/11 01:04 PM
Fine, have it your way.

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Tue 02/08/11 01:06 PM


I'm afraid I don't see the connection. The video = why liberals are so misinformed? I thought the video charade was pretty straightforward and well disclosed. What's the "misinformed" part?


All of it! ABC news a supposed trusted news source telling everyone that police have the right to question people at random about their legal status. If you truly informed on the law you would not have asked your question. Police can only ask about immigration status if they have stopped someone for a moving violation or public intoxication, not because they are brown. And they can only ask if the people they have stopped are acting in a suspicious manner (which police ask more questions in that situation anyway) about their legal status. This kindergarten level "reporting" just proves that the liberal media lies blatantly and hates America.


It would be nice if that were true.

The law states that if the police suspect the person of being illegal. How do you suspect an illegal without being discriminatory?

Dragoness's photo
Tue 02/08/11 01:09 PM


Besides, this wasn't "reporting". This was an entertainment show.


Your statement just proved the extent of your liberal bias. The show was produced by ABC News and was an undercover piece for the purpose of putting an undercover ABC news correspondent on national news.

Your statement is absolutely false and makes for an excellent example of the point being made by this thread.


Considering it is obviously an actor and it is shown in an entertainment type way. I would say that it might be falsely made by a right winger trying to misinform on liberals or main stream media huh?

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Tue 02/08/11 01:41 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 02/08/11 01:44 PM
Its REAL reality television centered around SOCIAL issues that are newsworthy

I LOVE THE SHOW

http://abcnews.go.com/WhatWouldYouDo/
real people put into random situations and observed in their various reactions


the statement made 'new law would give police the authority to question and perhaps deport anyone who, in their eyes, appears to be in the U.S. illegally'


is not inaccurate, although I Cant speak to whether it is (intentionally) deceptive



police already have the AUTHORITY TO QUESTION anyone they wish, and citizens have certain rights about whether they are MANDATED to answer

so that part is true

Police in arizona , however, have to contact ICE to actually do any deporting but they do have the AUTHORITY to detain based upon inability to produce documents that they have quite a reasonable latitude to demand(in such a situation, it is basically up to their personal observations whether they will feel the 'need' to ask for such documents)


so they cant personally deport anyone, but they can lead to the deportation of people that cant produce documentation that the OFFICER feels they should have based upon the OFFICERS perception of them

boredinaz06's photo
Tue 02/08/11 07:25 PM



Besides, this wasn't "reporting". This was an entertainment show.


Your statement just proved the extent of your liberal bias. The show was produced by ABC News and was an undercover piece for the purpose of putting an undercover ABC news correspondent on national news.

Your statement is absolutely false and makes for an excellent example of the point being made by this thread.


Considering it is obviously an actor and it is shown in an entertainment type way. I would say that it might be falsely made by a right winger trying to misinform on liberals or main stream media huh?


Did you bother to watch it? Its pretty obvious the ABC news was falsely reporting about a law they don't like. First off a security guard could give two ***** if your here legally, they make minimum wage. Secondly no cop can ask because they feel like it, if that were the case that judge would immediately thrown the whole thing out. Liberals suck and the liberal media rots their minds.

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Tue 02/08/11 07:26 PM



I'm afraid I don't see the connection. The video = why liberals are so misinformed? I thought the video charade was pretty straightforward and well disclosed. What's the "misinformed" part?


All of it! ABC news a supposed trusted news source telling everyone that police have the right to question people at random about their legal status. If you truly informed on the law you would not have asked your question. Police can only ask about immigration status if they have stopped someone for a moving violation or public intoxication, not because they are brown. And they can only ask if the people they have stopped are acting in a suspicious manner (which police ask more questions in that situation anyway) about their legal status. This kindergarten level "reporting" just proves that the liberal media lies blatantly and hates America.


It would be nice if that were true.

The law states that if the police suspect the person of being illegal. How do you suspect an illegal without being discriminatory?


the same way they suspect your carrying drugs! If you seem nervous and can't keep your story straight...BINGO!

boredinaz06's photo
Tue 02/08/11 07:28 PM

Its REAL reality television centered around SOCIAL issues that are newsworthy

I LOVE THE SHOW

http://abcnews.go.com/WhatWouldYouDo/
real people put into random situations and observed in their various reactions


the statement made 'new law would give police the authority to question and perhaps deport anyone who, in their eyes, appears to be in the U.S. illegally'


is not inaccurate, although I Cant speak to whether it is (intentionally) deceptive



police already have the AUTHORITY TO QUESTION anyone they wish, and citizens have certain rights about whether they are MANDATED to answer

so that part is true

Police in arizona , however, have to contact ICE to actually do any deporting but they do have the AUTHORITY to detain based upon inability to produce documents that they have quite a reasonable latitude to demand(in such a situation, it is basically up to their personal observations whether they will feel the 'need' to ask for such documents)


so they cant personally deport anyone, but they can lead to the deportation of people that cant produce documentation that the OFFICER feels they should have based upon the OFFICERS perception of them



I see you have an understanding of this law and for that I tip my hat to you. There is no doubt in my mind that this was deliberate. Something like this can be quite controversial and controversy makes for great ratings.

metalwing's photo
Tue 02/08/11 10:45 PM



Besides, this wasn't "reporting". This was an entertainment show.


Your statement just proved the extent of your liberal bias. The show was produced by ABC News and was an undercover piece for the purpose of putting an undercover ABC news correspondent on national news.

Your statement is absolutely false and makes for an excellent example of the point being made by this thread.


Considering it is obviously an actor and it is shown in an entertainment type way. I would say that it might be falsely made by a right winger trying to misinform on liberals or main stream media huh?


It was reporting done in a "reporting" way. It states so in the beginning. ABC is not "right wing". Security Guards are not police. It was sensationalism inaccurately portrayed at it's worst.

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Tue 02/08/11 11:12 PM


I'm afraid I don't see the connection. The video = why liberals are so misinformed? I thought the video charade was pretty straightforward and well disclosed. What's the "misinformed" part?


All of it! ABC news a supposed trusted news source telling everyone that police have the right to question people at random about their legal status. If you truly informed on the law you would not have asked your question. Police can only ask about immigration status if they have stopped someone for a moving violation or public intoxication, not because they are brown. And they can only ask if the people they have stopped are acting in a suspicious manner (which police ask more questions in that situation anyway) about their legal status. This kindergarten level "reporting" just proves that the liberal media lies blatantly and hates America.

Okay. Now we need a video that "proves" conservative media lies blatantly and hates America-then we'd have perfect harmony in media BS-ing. laugh

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Wed 02/09/11 08:51 AM
I like how they said something like how people didn't know how it would affect legal citizens when the lady they showed the whole time was thinking they were illegal lol.

FYI I don't see what the big deal is. I am in Japan and at any time a Japanese policeman can ask me to show proof that I am here legally and I see nothing wrong with that. If you are in Japan on vacation you have to carry your passport with you or if you have an alien registration card you have to carry that.

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Wed 02/09/11 01:08 PM

I like how they said something like how people didn't know how it would affect legal citizens when the lady they showed the whole time was thinking they were illegal lol.

FYI I don't see what the big deal is. I am in Japan and at any time a Japanese policeman can ask me to show proof that I am here legally and I see nothing wrong with that. If you are in Japan on vacation you have to carry your passport with you or if you have an alien registration card you have to carry that.



I see one obvious difference here though

Japan: Japanese 99%; Korean, Chinese, Brazillian, Filipino, other 1%

Read more: Ethnicity and Race by Countries — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0855617.html#ixzz1DUwUkkOH


USA: White: 211,460,626 (75.1%); Black: 34,658,190 (12.3%); Asian: 10,242,998 (3.6%); American Indian and Alaska Native: 2,475,956 (0.9%); Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander: 398,835 (0.1%); other race: 15,359,073 (5.5%); Hispanic origin:1 35,305,818 (12.5%)

Read more: Ethnicity and Race by Countries — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0855617.html#ixzz1DUwem8aj


in Japan, WHITE doesnt even register in the population so it is much more REASONABLE to question why a white person(or a black person) is there

In America, however, hispanics make up about 13 percent of the population so that type of suspicion doesnt have nearly as much of a foundation



msharmony's photo
Wed 02/09/11 01:10 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 02/09/11 01:10 PM




I'm afraid I don't see the connection. The video = why liberals are so misinformed? I thought the video charade was pretty straightforward and well disclosed. What's the "misinformed" part?


All of it! ABC news a supposed trusted news source telling everyone that police have the right to question people at random about their legal status. If you truly informed on the law you would not have asked your question. Police can only ask about immigration status if they have stopped someone for a moving violation or public intoxication, not because they are brown. And they can only ask if the people they have stopped are acting in a suspicious manner (which police ask more questions in that situation anyway) about their legal status. This kindergarten level "reporting" just proves that the liberal media lies blatantly and hates America.


It would be nice if that were true.

The law states that if the police suspect the person of being illegal. How do you suspect an illegal without being discriminatory?


the same way they suspect your carrying drugs! If you seem nervous and can't keep your story straight...BINGO!



so what are the physical signs associated with not having legal documentaion?


you have posted physical signs of lying but how does one determine if the person is lying about DRUGS or about NATIONALITY and at what point is there reason to question them about EITHER?

boredinaz06's photo
Wed 02/09/11 02:19 PM





I'm afraid I don't see the connection. The video = why liberals are so misinformed? I thought the video charade was pretty straightforward and well disclosed. What's the "misinformed" part?


All of it! ABC news a supposed trusted news source telling everyone that police have the right to question people at random about their legal status. If you truly informed on the law you would not have asked your question. Police can only ask about immigration status if they have stopped someone for a moving violation or public intoxication, not because they are brown. And they can only ask if the people they have stopped are acting in a suspicious manner (which police ask more questions in that situation anyway) about their legal status. This kindergarten level "reporting" just proves that the liberal media lies blatantly and hates America.


It would be nice if that were true.

The law states that if the police suspect the person of being illegal. How do you suspect an illegal without being discriminatory?


the same way they suspect your carrying drugs! If you seem nervous and can't keep your story straight...BINGO!



so what are the physical signs associated with not having legal documentaion?


you have posted physical signs of lying but how does one determine if the person is lying about DRUGS or about NATIONALITY and at what point is there reason to question them about EITHER?


If you suspect the person is lying about drugs because of their body language or changing story you ask to search their vehicle, if they refuse you call your supervisor and take it from there. Immigration status will be handled the same way only instead of asking to search the vehicle you ask for their passport or ID.

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Wed 02/09/11 02:23 PM


I like how they said something like how people didn't know how it would affect legal citizens when the lady they showed the whole time was thinking they were illegal lol.

FYI I don't see what the big deal is. I am in Japan and at any time a Japanese policeman can ask me to show proof that I am here legally and I see nothing wrong with that. If you are in Japan on vacation you have to carry your passport with you or if you have an alien registration card you have to carry that.



I see one obvious difference here though

Japan: Japanese 99%; Korean, Chinese, Brazillian, Filipino, other 1%

Read more: Ethnicity and Race by Countries — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0855617.html#ixzz1DUwUkkOH


USA: White: 211,460,626 (75.1%); Black: 34,658,190 (12.3%); Asian: 10,242,998 (3.6%); American Indian and Alaska Native: 2,475,956 (0.9%); Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander: 398,835 (0.1%); other race: 15,359,073 (5.5%); Hispanic origin:1 35,305,818 (12.5%)

Read more: Ethnicity and Race by Countries — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0855617.html#ixzz1DUwem8aj


in Japan, WHITE doesnt even register in the population so it is much more REASONABLE to question why a white person(or a black person) is there

In America, however, hispanics make up about 13 percent of the population so that type of suspicion doesnt have nearly as much of a foundation





Again you are assuming that it is based on how someone looks, I thought you understood this law but guess I was wrong. you could be Russian, South African, Canadian and if you are suspected to be here illegally then your ID/passport should be provided to police. This is not based on color although a majority of illegals are of a certain color, not all people here illegally are that color.

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