Topic: No wonder liberals are so misinformed.
Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/10/11 06:45 PM




I'm afraid I don't see the connection. The video = why liberals are so misinformed? I thought the video charade was pretty straightforward and well disclosed. What's the "misinformed" part?


All of it! ABC news a supposed trusted news source telling everyone that police have the right to question people at random about their legal status. If you truly informed on the law you would not have asked your question. Police can only ask about immigration status if they have stopped someone for a moving violation or public intoxication, not because they are brown. And they can only ask if the people they have stopped are acting in a suspicious manner (which police ask more questions in that situation anyway) about their legal status. This kindergarten level "reporting" just proves that the liberal media lies blatantly and hates America.


It would be nice if that were true.

The law states that if the police suspect the person of being illegal. How do you suspect an illegal without being discriminatory?


Mexican + no ID + barely (or doesn't) speak English.

That would be the tip off for me.


Right and that is racial profiling and is illegal to perform.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/10/11 06:48 PM
It is so hard for a white person in a white dominated country to understand discrimination. It is a wonder we have managed to create the protection we do have in this country against it.slaphead

no photo
Thu 02/10/11 07:21 PM





I'm afraid I don't see the connection. The video = why liberals are so misinformed? I thought the video charade was pretty straightforward and well disclosed. What's the "misinformed" part?


All of it! ABC news a supposed trusted news source telling everyone that police have the right to question people at random about their legal status. If you truly informed on the law you would not have asked your question. Police can only ask about immigration status if they have stopped someone for a moving violation or public intoxication, not because they are brown. And they can only ask if the people they have stopped are acting in a suspicious manner (which police ask more questions in that situation anyway) about their legal status. This kindergarten level "reporting" just proves that the liberal media lies blatantly and hates America.


It would be nice if that were true.

The law states that if the police suspect the person of being illegal. How do you suspect an illegal without being discriminatory?


Mexican + no ID + barely (or doesn't) speak English.

That would be the tip off for me.


Right and that is racial profiling and is illegal to perform.


It's not racial profiling, it's criminal profiling. Or are you saying that only Hispanic people live south of the border?

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/10/11 07:25 PM






I'm afraid I don't see the connection. The video = why liberals are so misinformed? I thought the video charade was pretty straightforward and well disclosed. What's the "misinformed" part?


All of it! ABC news a supposed trusted news source telling everyone that police have the right to question people at random about their legal status. If you truly informed on the law you would not have asked your question. Police can only ask about immigration status if they have stopped someone for a moving violation or public intoxication, not because they are brown. And they can only ask if the people they have stopped are acting in a suspicious manner (which police ask more questions in that situation anyway) about their legal status. This kindergarten level "reporting" just proves that the liberal media lies blatantly and hates America.


It would be nice if that were true.

The law states that if the police suspect the person of being illegal. How do you suspect an illegal without being discriminatory?


Mexican + no ID + barely (or doesn't) speak English.

That would be the tip off for me.


Right and that is racial profiling and is illegal to perform.


It's not racial profiling, it's criminal profiling. Or are you saying that only Hispanic people live south of the border?



What you stated is not criminal profiling it is racial profiling and illegal and wrong and disgusting.

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 02/10/11 08:05 PM






I'm afraid I don't see the connection. The video = why liberals are so misinformed? I thought the video charade was pretty straightforward and well disclosed. What's the "misinformed" part?


All of it! ABC news a supposed trusted news source telling everyone that police have the right to question people at random about their legal status. If you truly informed on the law you would not have asked your question. Police can only ask about immigration status if they have stopped someone for a moving violation or public intoxication, not because they are brown. And they can only ask if the people they have stopped are acting in a suspicious manner (which police ask more questions in that situation anyway) about their legal status. This kindergarten level "reporting" just proves that the liberal media lies blatantly and hates America.


It would be nice if that were true.

The law states that if the police suspect the person of being illegal. How do you suspect an illegal without being discriminatory?


Mexican + no ID + barely (or doesn't) speak English.

That would be the tip off for me.


Right and that is racial profiling and is illegal to perform.


It's not racial profiling, it's criminal profiling. Or are you saying that only Hispanic people live south of the border?


Pretty sure criminal profiling has to do with a crime scene...

motowndowntown's photo
Fri 02/11/11 03:32 PM
Ya want to stop illegal immigration?

Fine the crap out of or close down any business that hires them.

msharmony's photo
Fri 02/11/11 03:38 PM

Ya want to stop illegal immigration?

Fine the crap out of or close down any business that hires them.



AMEN. I say charge them whatever the going rate of that job is for EVERY hour that person worked, plus 100 percent interest

the employee can go home (wherever that is) at least with what they earned and the employer no longer has a worthwhile risk because they dont JUST lose as much as they would if they had just done LEGAL hiring but they are also going to pay TWICE the rate as just hiring someone legally.

Send the immigrant back to their homeland with their earnings(perhaps some can be used to pay a fine of some sort for breaking the law) and use that other wage to put in a fund for border security resources...

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Fri 02/11/11 04:00 PM
Send the immigrant back to their homeland with their earnings(perhaps some can be used to pay a fine of some sort for breaking the law) and use that other wage to put in a fund for border security resources...
Did you know? (I got this from a liberal talk show. I don't know if it's true). It is not illegal to be in the United States without documentation. It is illegal to return once you have been deported.

msharmony's photo
Fri 02/11/11 04:07 PM








I'm afraid I don't see the connection. The video = why liberals are so misinformed? I thought the video charade was pretty straightforward and well disclosed. What's the "misinformed" part?


All of it! ABC news a supposed trusted news source telling everyone that police have the right to question people at random about their legal status. If you truly informed on the law you would not have asked your question. Police can only ask about immigration status if they have stopped someone for a moving violation or public intoxication, not because they are brown. And they can only ask if the people they have stopped are acting in a suspicious manner (which police ask more questions in that situation anyway) about their legal status. This kindergarten level "reporting" just proves that the liberal media lies blatantly and hates America.


It would be nice if that were true.

The law states that if the police suspect the person of being illegal. How do you suspect an illegal without being discriminatory?


the same way they suspect your carrying drugs! If you seem nervous and can't keep your story straight...BINGO!



so what are the physical signs associated with not having legal documentaion?


you have posted physical signs of lying but how does one determine if the person is lying about DRUGS or about NATIONALITY and at what point is there reason to question them about EITHER?


What about having an accent?


which accent, southern? proper? urban? latina? in a country with so many cultures, when did everyone start speaking with the same 'accent' and why should we start expecting them to...


The accent is based on what the typical offender has.
If you are looking for illegal Mexicans then you are not going to question someone with a British accent.

A southern accent is an American accent, most Americans recognize American accents. Obviously they would question foreign accents.



there you have it, if you are LOOKING for illegal MEXICANS(not illegal immigrants who can be any nationality)

thats what makes it RACIST, UNLESS all people stopped will be asked to show citizenship

msharmony's photo
Fri 02/11/11 04:17 PM

Send the immigrant back to their homeland with their earnings(perhaps some can be used to pay a fine of some sort for breaking the law) and use that other wage to put in a fund for border security resources...
Did you know? (I got this from a liberal talk show. I don't know if it's true). It is not illegal to be in the United States without documentation. It is illegal to return once you have been deported.


the talk show is not quite right,,,

immigrants have to be documented in some form (visa, passport, etc,,,)

deportation has re entry limits based upon case, not an absolute no reentry deal


Nickj1227's photo
Fri 02/11/11 04:19 PM
I would have to agree...criminal profiling is done on a scene usually by the F.B.I.

Nickj1227's photo
Fri 02/11/11 04:20 PM
in response to FEARANDLOATHING

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Fri 02/11/11 04:21 PM
the talk show is not quite right,,,

immigrants have to be documented in some form (visa, passport, etc,,,)

deportation has re entry limits based upon case, not an absolute no reentry deal
Just curious. Has it always been this way, or is that something that came along with the Patriot Act?

msharmony's photo
Fri 02/11/11 04:28 PM

the talk show is not quite right,,,

immigrants have to be documented in some form (visa, passport, etc,,,)

deportation has re entry limits based upon case, not an absolute no reentry deal
Just curious. Has it always been this way, or is that something that came along with the Patriot Act?




I am not sure. My immgigration process started back in 2003 which was well after the Patriot Act. My ex was not deported but denied entry, which I imagine is a similar type of rationale. There are lots of codes that go along with those orders (deportations, denial of entry) that specify the reason and the limitations on entry/re-entry.

no photo
Fri 02/11/11 04:31 PM
Where did you come from, Ms?

msharmony's photo
Fri 02/11/11 05:46 PM

Where did you come from, Ms?



Oh, I am from America but my ex was a British citizen. We tried to live here together after we were married and went through the whole legal process just to be denied.,,,,I became pretty familiar with it as I was the one handling the documents and petitions.

Chazster's photo
Sun 02/13/11 04:58 AM
Seeing that over 50% of illegals are from mexico I don't see a problem especially in known safe cities and in states close to Mexico.

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/13/11 05:17 AM

Seeing that over 50% of illegals are from mexico I don't see a problem especially in known safe cities and in states close to Mexico.



over 50 percent of violent criminals are males, perhaps we should start stopping males and checking them for weapons too...

Chazster's photo
Sun 02/13/11 05:27 AM


Seeing that over 50% of illegals are from mexico I don't see a problem especially in known safe cities and in states close to Mexico.



over 50 percent of violent criminals are males, perhaps we should start stopping males and checking them for weapons too...

Not the same thing. I violent criminal isn't constantly committing a crime. They wont always have weapons on their person.

An illegal immigrant is constantly committing a crime by remaining in this country.

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/13/11 05:29 AM



Seeing that over 50% of illegals are from mexico I don't see a problem especially in known safe cities and in states close to Mexico.



over 50 percent of violent criminals are males, perhaps we should start stopping males and checking them for weapons too...

Not the same thing. I violent criminal isn't constantly committing a crime. They wont always have weapons on their person.

An illegal immigrant is constantly committing a crime by remaining in this country.


an illegal immigrant is breaking a law, violent criminals break the law

if we stop suspected illegal immigrants(suspect because of their nationality) we should stop illegal violent offenders (suspect because of their gender)

very much the same thing,, a crime is a crime regardless of how 'constant' one thinks it is