Maybe they use it to express love to each other? Ever think of that? Think outside the box dude, it's very freeing there. Even the Bible speaks to the pleasures and joys of sex in a loving relationship.

I seriously can't believe you man, your thinking is even more extreme then some other Christians, yet we're the extremists for seeking freedom?

Yes but why do these pleasures and joy HAVE to come from sex? Why can't they be achieved by doing other romantic fun things together? Why particularly sex?

Love can be shared with each other in many many many other ways besides sex. Why would sex be so important?

Who says it only has to come from that? It can be just a part of it, but for you to deny them it simply because they cannot reproduce anymore is laughable at best.

If you can not do it, why lust after doing it? I can't run, but I don't lust after running. I can't fly but I don't lust after flying. I just accept the fact that I can not do either one and don't attempt. What's so major about having sex?

What's major about it is you feel you have the right to say whether someone can or can't do something, just cause "God" says it. I find it very scary that anyone in their right mind would think this way.

If a married couple wants to have sex, they have every right to do it, regardless of what your "God" says.

Yes everyone has the right to do anything they wish to do. That is why we are not to judge one another. They have the right, but there is a reaction to every action. And don't feel people will like the reaction that comes of being homosexual, so I try my best to spread the news and enlighten them. But nevertheless it is up to them to make the choice. And with either decision on that choice, does not change one thing about how I treat anyone. That is their choice, there decision. But again they will have to face the reaction that comes with their action, so I plead to choose wisely.

Considering that the consequences for others being gay is not the same as it is for the religious, I guess the religious are the only ones who need to worry about it.

I love how you say not to judge one another, yet you judge others actions all the time. Take the log out of your own eye first cowboy.

I judged no one. I didn't say anyone was going to heaven, I didn't say anyone was going to die, I didn't say anyone was a horrible person, I made no judgement whatsoever.

You'd better believe that kind of logic is spreading.
Many horses are waiting to come out of the gate.
So many waiting for endorsement.
At one time homosexuality was as much a sickness
as incest...and now because so many have closed
their eyes to the taboo of it...
it is now labeled "natural".

There are a lot of closet incestuous, beastial,
and other participants who are waiting
for the day when what they enjoy doing
is acceptible as well.
What kind of society are we allowing?
Is this our children's inheritance?

No but you inferred that would happen if they did this, so yeah you judged.

i think i'm about half witty and half shitty. lol.

I judge as both God and Jesus commanded.I judge to avoid sinful,evil,and destructive people as both God and Jesus commanded.I do not judge before the facts are know I judge after the facts are known.That is why Jesus said "why don't you judge righteously"?That is also why Jesus not only allowed the court process of being found guilty or innocent he spoke about it as a form of justice.


The only people on this planet that do not judge are robots.I am not a robot.

Yes, I think that!!!!!

Jesus said "Judge not less ye be judged".

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

I beg to differ Cowboy, At the present time there are some legally restrictive activities. No one has a right to do everything he/she wants to do. Our nation hasn't totally collapsed yet.

God truly is longsuffering...offering all of us, as a nation, to get our priorities straight.

No we do have the right, legally restrictive or not, doesn't mean we can't do it if we really wanted to.

It being illegal doesn't mean you CAN'T do it. Just if you get caught doing it you will pay the consequences. Same way with our father, the only difference is with God you are caught every time.

Cowboy I have gone through this issue with you at least ten times in here and every time I give you bible verses it goes through one ear and out the other.I guess I will have to explain this to you for the 11th time.



Jesus was talking about judging people based on appearance,rumors,slander,assumptions,false witness'sand other traits.He was talking about labeling people into a category before even talking to them.He was not talking about judgment of people after the facts were known.He was talking about judging before the facts were known.


In Jesus's own words...

“Has not Moses given you the law? Yet none of you keeps the law. . . . Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.” (John 7:19, 24)


Cowboy are you saying Jesus is a liar?Anyone can see this bible verse for what it is.Don't judge by appearance but by peoples actions.



Jesus told the Pharisees, “You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?” (Matt. 23:23)


Is this not judging?Is Jesus a hypocrite?Is not Jesus judging by their actions?


What about John the baptist.Did he not yell and scream at King herold and his wife and accuse her of adultery?Is that not judging? Matt. 14:3-4)

Yet what did Jesus say about John the baptist?


Jesus said of him, “Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist” (Matt. 11:11)


So not only did Jesus tell us to judge righteously so did his apostles...

In Luke 17:3 He commanded us to rebuke a trespassing brother: “If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him.”

In 1 Timothy 5:20 he says, “Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also may be fearful of sinning.”

In Titus 2:15 he tells Titus, “These things speak and exhort and reprove with all authority. Let no one disregard you.”

In 2 Tim. 4:2 he tells Timothy to “reprove, rebuke, exhort.”

In 1 Thess. 5:14 he says to “admonish the unruly.”

In Rom. 15:14 he tells the Roman church that they are “able to admonish one another.”

In Eph. 5:11 he tells the church, “Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.”

Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church? I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers, but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers? (1 Cor. 6:2-6)


“tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” (Matt. 18:17-18)


It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans, for a man has his father’s wife. And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you. For though absent in body, I am present in spirit; and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment on the one who did such a thing. When you are assembled in the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord. (1 Cor. 5:1-5)












If we truly did not judge we would not be Christians but Atheists.Because the entire bible talks about who we should and should not associate with.