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Reality check: Iran is not a nuclear threat
Politicians, lobbyists, and propagandists have spent nearly two decades pushing the lie that Iran poses a nuclear weapons threat to the United States and Israel. After a brief respite in the intensity of the wolf cries over the past two years, the neoconservative movement has decided to relaunch the “Must Bomb Iran” brand. The fact that Iran is not and has not been a nuclear threat to either nation is rendered irrelevant by a narrative of universal “concern” about its nuclear program. US media distortions In mid-August, for example, after The New York Times quite uncharacteristically ran a piece diminishing the supposed danger of Iranian nukes, the story was misrepresented in newspapers and on TV stations across the country in the most frightening terms. As MSNBC’s news reader put it that afternoon: “Intelligence sources say Iran is only one year away from a nuclear bomb!” On August 13, on Fox News, former US ambassador to the UN John Bolton implicitly urged Israel to attack Iran’s new light-water reactor at Bushehr before it began “functioning,” the implication being that the reactor represented some sort of dire threat. But the facts are not on Mr. Bolton’s side. The Bushehr reactor is not useful for producing weapons-grade plutonium, and the Russians have a deal to keep all the waste themselves. On September 6, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) released a new paper on the implementation of Iran’s Safeguards Agreement which reported that the agency has “continued to verify the non-diversion of declared nuclear material in Iran to any military or other special purpose.” Yet despite the IAEA report and clear assertions to the contrary, news articles that followed were dishonest to the extreme, interpreting this clean bill of health as just another wisp of smoke indicating nuclear fire in a horrifying near-future. A Washington Post article published the very same day led the way with the aggressive and misleading headline “UN Report: Iran stockpiling nuclear materials,” “shorthanding” the facts right out of the narrative. The facts are that Iran’s terrifying nuclear “stockpile” is a small amount of uranium enriched to industrial grade levels for use in its domestic energy and medical isotope programs, all of it “safeguarded” by the IAEA. More sensational claims If the smokescreen wasn’t thick enough, late last week a group of Marxist holy warrior exiles called the Mujahadeen-e-Khalq, working with the very same neoconservatives who sponsored Ahmad Chalabi’s Iraqi National Congress – which manufactured so much of the propaganda that convinced the American people to support the invasion of that country – accused the Iranian government of building a secret nuclear enrichment facility buried deep in tunnels near Qazvin. Headlines once again blared in total negligence and without verification that here indeed was, an official told Fox News, proof that Iran has a “hidden, secret nuclear weapons program.’” TV news anchors on every channel furiously mopped sweat from their brows, hearts-a-tremor. When will the forces of good rise to stop this evil?! Yet even US officials quickly admitted that they’ve known about these tunnels for years. “[T]here’s no reason at this point to think it’s nuclear,” one US official said – a quote that appeared in Fox’s article, but only after five paragraphs of breathless allegations. All day long, top-of-the-hour news updates on TV and radio let the false impression stand. IAEA inspectors have had open access to the gas conversion facility at Isfahan, the enrichment facility at Natanz, and the new lightwater reactor at Bushehr, as well as the secondary enrichment facility under construction at Qom. An ignored clean bill of health The September 6 IAEA report confirming for the zillionth time the non-diversion of nuclear material should be the last word on the subject until the next time they say the same thing: Iran, a long-time signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), is not in violation of its Safeguards Agreement. So what’s all the hubbub about Iran’s “nuclear defiance” and “danger”? The IAEA’s latest report does note that Iran has “not provided the necessary cooperation to permit the Agency to confirm that all nuclear material in Iran is in peaceful activities.” Indeed, the agency’s frequent mentions of Iran’s “lack of full cooperation” is a big reason why US media reports portray Iran in ominous terms. But here, too, US media frequently miss the point. Never mind that 118 nations around the world have signed a statement criticizing the IAEA’s “peaceful activities” conclusion as a departure from standard verification language. More broadly, Iran’s “lack of full cooperation” by itself is an outcome of Western bullying and propaganda. Real reason for lack of cooperation The US and the UN, acting upon no legitimate authority whatsoever, have demanded that Iran submit to an Additional Protocol to the Safeguards Agreement, which would ban any further enrichment on Iranian soil, as well as demanded they submit to an endless regime of IAEA inspections and questioning, based mostly on the “alleged studies” documents, which several sources have said are forgeries posing as a pilfered laptop of a dead Iranian nuclear scientist. These separate, UN Security Council-mandated investigations have even demanded blueprints for Shahab 3 missiles – a subject far removed from hexafluoride gas or any legitimate IAEA function. In 2003, Iran voluntarily agreed to the extra burden of the unratified Additional Protocol during “good faith negotiations” with the so-called “E-3,” Britain, France, and Germany, acting on behalf of the US. When those negotiations broke down, Iran withdrew in 2006. With these details left out of the discussion, the impression is left that Iran is refusing to abide by international law, when in fact, it is completely within its NPT obligations. An outrageous standard Meanwhile, Washington continues to apply to Iran the outrageous standard it used in the run-up to the Iraq war: an unfriendly nation must “prove” it doesn’t have dangerous weapons or a secret program to make them – or potentially face military action. “Proving a negative” is, to say the least, a difficult obligation to meet: You say you haven’t read Webster’s Dictionary cover to cover? Prove it! The bottom line is that Iran is still within its unalienable rights to peaceful nuclear technology under the NPT and the Safeguards Agreement – a point even Tehran’s fiercest critics (grudgingly) acknowledge. The only issues it is defying are the illegitimate sanctions and demands of the US and UN, which themselves defy logic and sense. Journalists’ ethical obligation It is far past time for the members of the American media to get their act together and begin asking serious follow-up questions of the politicians, “experts,” and lobbyists they interview on the subject of Iran’s nuclear program. Many of these same journalists still have the blood of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis on their hands from the months they spent continuously and uncritically parroting the lies, half-truths, and distortions of agenda-driven Iraqi dissidents and their neocon champions who pushed us into the Iraq war. Perhaps this is their shot at redemption. http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0917/Reality-check-Iran-is-not-a-nuclear-threat/%28page%29/2 |
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maybe you should research this further...they have directly disobeyed every UN, US, and the Nuclear regulatory commission that has been set in place for safegaurding nuclear power/weapons. they will not allow inspections, they have kicked out the UN from doing any inspections that every other nuclear power in the world agrees to and have been caught in direct lies. These regulatory laws are not set just for the rest of the world, but for their own safety as well... remember Chernobyl? that wiped out 25,000 thousand people in a matter of days, not including the long term radiation effects...
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Edited by
Seakolony
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maybe you should research this further...they have directly disobeyed every UN, US, and the Nuclear regulatory commission that has been set in place for safegaurding nuclear power/weapons. they will not allow inspections, they have kicked out the UN from doing any inspections that every other nuclear power in the world agrees to and have been caught in direct lies. These regulatory laws are not set just for the rest of the world, but for their own safety as well... remember Chernobyl? that wiped out 25,000 thousand people in a matter of days, not including the long term radiation effects... It snot like they are answerable to the UN.....and just bcs inspections are not being allowed doesn't mean they are producing weapons of mass destruction......to tell you the truth if someone came to my country with a "search warrant" issued by foriegn governments.....I would slam the door to my country and laugh in their face too........I wouldnt allow them past my front door....and is an accusation probable cause...don't think so....besides what is the UN but a bunc.h of countries pulled together as a self imposed world police? And who gives them the right to police the world anyways? PS my grandmother worked on the Manhattan Project and was directly involved with the splitting of the atom and the creation of nucler weapons.......the intent was never to use them unless absolutely necessary.....they were meant to end wars not create them....and you could directly blame us for their creation......just a shame their r people that wish to use them.....everyone should be hand to hand combat only.......the way it was meant to be......no I don't understand why weapons are created to end wars either....but the use of these weapons could end the planet for everyone a it bears an innate responsibility when you create maintain and own them.... |
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maybe you should research this further...they have directly disobeyed every UN, US, and the Nuclear regulatory commission that has been set in place for safegaurding nuclear power/weapons. they will not allow inspections, they have kicked out the UN from doing any inspections that every other nuclear power in the world agrees to and have been caught in direct lies. These regulatory laws are not set just for the rest of the world, but for their own safety as well... remember Chernobyl? that wiped out 25,000 thousand people in a matter of days, not including the long term radiation effects... It snot like they are answerable to the UN.....and just bcs inspections are not being allowed doesn't mean they are producing weapons of mass destruction......to tell you the truth if someone came to my country with a "search warrant" issued by foriegn governments.....I would slam the door to my country and laugh in their face too........I wouldnt allow them past my front door....and is an accusation probable cause...don't think so....besides what is the UN but a bunc.h of countries pulled together as a self imposed world police? And who gives them the right to police the world anyways? PS my grandmother worked on the Manhattan Project and was directly involved with the splitting of the atom and the creation of nucler weapons.......the intent was never to use them unless absolutely necessary.....they were meant to end wars not create them....and you could directly blame us for their creation......just a shame their r people that wish to use them.....everyone should be hand to hand combat only.......the way it was meant to be......no I don't understand why weapons are created to end wars either....but the use of these weapons could end the planet for everyone a it bears an innate responsibility when you create maintain and own them.... You slingin' snot there, young Lady?? Agree with yer post ! |
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maybe you should research this further...they have directly disobeyed every UN, US, and the Nuclear regulatory commission that has been set in place for safegaurding nuclear power/weapons. they will not allow inspections, they have kicked out the UN from doing any inspections that every other nuclear power in the world agrees to and have been caught in direct lies. These regulatory laws are not set just for the rest of the world, but for their own safety as well... remember Chernobyl? that wiped out 25,000 thousand people in a matter of days, not including the long term radiation effects... It snot like they are answerable to the UN.....and just bcs inspections are not being allowed doesn't mean they are producing weapons of mass destruction......to tell you the truth if someone came to my country with a "search warrant" issued by foriegn governments.....I would slam the door to my country and laugh in their face too........I wouldnt allow them past my front door....and is an accusation probable cause...don't think so....besides what is the UN but a bunc.h of countries pulled together as a self imposed world police? And who gives them the right to police the world anyways? PS my grandmother worked on the Manhattan Project and was directly involved with the splitting of the atom and the creation of nucler weapons.......the intent was never to use them unless absolutely necessary.....they were meant to end wars not create them....and you could directly blame us for their creation......just a shame their r people that wish to use them.....everyone should be hand to hand combat only.......the way it was meant to be......no I don't understand why weapons are created to end wars either....but the use of these weapons could end the planet for everyone a it bears an innate responsibility when you create maintain and own them.... You slingin' snot there, young Lady?? Agree with yer post ! Yes the dirtier the better |
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Reality check: Iran is not a nuclear threat Politicians, lobbyists, and propagandists have spent nearly two decades pushing the lie that Iran poses a nuclear weapons threat to the United States and Israel. After a brief respite in the intensity of the wolf cries over the past two years, the neoconservative movement has decided to relaunch the “Must Bomb Iran” brand. The fact that Iran is not and has not been a nuclear threat to either nation is rendered irrelevant by a narrative of universal “concern” about its nuclear program. US media distortions In mid-August, for example, after The New York Times quite uncharacteristically ran a piece diminishing the supposed danger of Iranian nukes, the story was misrepresented in newspapers and on TV stations across the country in the most frightening terms. As MSNBC’s news reader put it that afternoon: “Intelligence sources say Iran is only one year away from a nuclear bomb!” On August 13, on Fox News, former US ambassador to the UN John Bolton implicitly urged Israel to attack Iran’s new light-water reactor at Bushehr before it began “functioning,” the implication being that the reactor represented some sort of dire threat. But the facts are not on Mr. Bolton’s side. The Bushehr reactor is not useful for producing weapons-grade plutonium, and the Russians have a deal to keep all the waste themselves. On September 6, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) released a new paper on the implementation of Iran’s Safeguards Agreement which reported that the agency has “continued to verify the non-diversion of declared nuclear material in Iran to any military or other special purpose.” Yet despite the IAEA report and clear assertions to the contrary, news articles that followed were dishonest to the extreme, interpreting this clean bill of health as just another wisp of smoke indicating nuclear fire in a horrifying near-future. A Washington Post article published the very same day led the way with the aggressive and misleading headline “UN Report: Iran stockpiling nuclear materials,” “shorthanding” the facts right out of the narrative. The facts are that Iran’s terrifying nuclear “stockpile” is a small amount of uranium enriched to industrial grade levels for use in its domestic energy and medical isotope programs, all of it “safeguarded” by the IAEA. More sensational claims If the smokescreen wasn’t thick enough, late last week a group of Marxist holy warrior exiles called the Mujahadeen-e-Khalq, working with the very same neoconservatives who sponsored Ahmad Chalabi’s Iraqi National Congress – which manufactured so much of the propaganda that convinced the American people to support the invasion of that country – accused the Iranian government of building a secret nuclear enrichment facility buried deep in tunnels near Qazvin. Headlines once again blared in total negligence and without verification that here indeed was, an official told Fox News, proof that Iran has a “hidden, secret nuclear weapons program.’” TV news anchors on every channel furiously mopped sweat from their brows, hearts-a-tremor. When will the forces of good rise to stop this evil?! Yet even US officials quickly admitted that they’ve known about these tunnels for years. “[T]here’s no reason at this point to think it’s nuclear,” one US official said – a quote that appeared in Fox’s article, but only after five paragraphs of breathless allegations. All day long, top-of-the-hour news updates on TV and radio let the false impression stand. IAEA inspectors have had open access to the gas conversion facility at Isfahan, the enrichment facility at Natanz, and the new lightwater reactor at Bushehr, as well as the secondary enrichment facility under construction at Qom. An ignored clean bill of health The September 6 IAEA report confirming for the zillionth time the non-diversion of nuclear material should be the last word on the subject until the next time they say the same thing: Iran, a long-time signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), is not in violation of its Safeguards Agreement. So what’s all the hubbub about Iran’s “nuclear defiance” and “danger”? The IAEA’s latest report does note that Iran has “not provided the necessary cooperation to permit the Agency to confirm that all nuclear material in Iran is in peaceful activities.” Indeed, the agency’s frequent mentions of Iran’s “lack of full cooperation” is a big reason why US media reports portray Iran in ominous terms. But here, too, US media frequently miss the point. Never mind that 118 nations around the world have signed a statement criticizing the IAEA’s “peaceful activities” conclusion as a departure from standard verification language. More broadly, Iran’s “lack of full cooperation” by itself is an outcome of Western bullying and propaganda. Real reason for lack of cooperation The US and the UN, acting upon no legitimate authority whatsoever, have demanded that Iran submit to an Additional Protocol to the Safeguards Agreement, which would ban any further enrichment on Iranian soil, as well as demanded they submit to an endless regime of IAEA inspections and questioning, based mostly on the “alleged studies” documents, which several sources have said are forgeries posing as a pilfered laptop of a dead Iranian nuclear scientist. These separate, UN Security Council-mandated investigations have even demanded blueprints for Shahab 3 missiles – a subject far removed from hexafluoride gas or any legitimate IAEA function. In 2003, Iran voluntarily agreed to the extra burden of the unratified Additional Protocol during “good faith negotiations” with the so-called “E-3,” Britain, France, and Germany, acting on behalf of the US. When those negotiations broke down, Iran withdrew in 2006. With these details left out of the discussion, the impression is left that Iran is refusing to abide by international law, when in fact, it is completely within its NPT obligations. An outrageous standard Meanwhile, Washington continues to apply to Iran the outrageous standard it used in the run-up to the Iraq war: an unfriendly nation must “prove” it doesn’t have dangerous weapons or a secret program to make them – or potentially face military action. “Proving a negative” is, to say the least, a difficult obligation to meet: You say you haven’t read Webster’s Dictionary cover to cover? Prove it! The bottom line is that Iran is still within its unalienable rights to peaceful nuclear technology under the NPT and the Safeguards Agreement – a point even Tehran’s fiercest critics (grudgingly) acknowledge. The only issues it is defying are the illegitimate sanctions and demands of the US and UN, which themselves defy logic and sense. Journalists’ ethical obligation It is far past time for the members of the American media to get their act together and begin asking serious follow-up questions of the politicians, “experts,” and lobbyists they interview on the subject of Iran’s nuclear program. Many of these same journalists still have the blood of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis on their hands from the months they spent continuously and uncritically parroting the lies, half-truths, and distortions of agenda-driven Iraqi dissidents and their neocon champions who pushed us into the Iraq war. Perhaps this is their shot at redemption. http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0917/Reality-check-Iran-is-not-a-nuclear-threat/%28page%29/2 Hey just like Saddam and his many WMD, we illegally went there and found none. Do we really care about being respectful and legitimate to other countries and their rights? |
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maybe you should research this further...they have directly disobeyed every UN, US, and the Nuclear regulatory commission that has been set in place for safegaurding nuclear power/weapons. they will not allow inspections, they have kicked out the UN from doing any inspections that every other nuclear power in the world agrees to and have been caught in direct lies. These regulatory laws are not set just for the rest of the world, but for their own safety as well... remember Chernobyl? that wiped out 25,000 thousand people in a matter of days, not including the long term radiation effects... Not to mention doing snatch and grabs of innocent American's over Iraqui boarders or dissappearing former FBI Agents in Iran, which both by the way I am sure violates some international law. |
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Hey we can't talk, we have the hidden torture bases and Guantanamo Bay of which we keep people illegally for well hell for however long we want to for no apparent reason too.
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I am sure that the wonderfully accurate Fox News Channel is responsible for most of the inaccurate fearmongering pretend news information that leads to people believing the non facts.
I am willing to bet on it. |
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Hey we can't talk, we have the hidden torture bases and Guantanamo Bay of which we keep people illegally for well hell for however long we want to for no apparent reason too. We didn't do snatch and grabs over boarders thoug, we were in a hostile country going after known fugitives, much like Bill Clinton had Seals and Delta Force do in Bosnia...... |
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Hey we can't talk, we have the hidden torture bases and Guantanamo Bay of which we keep people illegally for well hell for however long we want to for no apparent reason too. We didn't do snatch and grabs over boarders thoug, we were in a hostile country going after known fugitives, much like Bill Clinton had Seals and Delta Force do in Bosnia...... We don't? |
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Hey we can't talk, we have the hidden torture bases and Guantanamo Bay of which we keep people illegally for well hell for however long we want to for no apparent reason too. We didn't do snatch and grabs over boarders thoug, we were in a hostile country going after known fugitives, much like Bill Clinton had Seals and Delta Force do in Bosnia...... We don't? Only when they are war criminal's and people who are indicted by the ICC. |
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Hey we can't talk, we have the hidden torture bases and Guantanamo Bay of which we keep people illegally for well hell for however long we want to for no apparent reason too. We didn't do snatch and grabs over boarders thoug, we were in a hostile country going after known fugitives, much like Bill Clinton had Seals and Delta Force do in Bosnia...... We don't? Only when they are war criminal's and people who are indicted by the ICC. Okay, you believe that if it makes it easier for you to sleep at night. Look it up. You know it is not going to make the nightly news and Fox sure ain't gonna air it. |
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Sorry for sidelining the thread Atlantis
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Hey we can't talk, we have the hidden torture bases and Guantanamo Bay of which we keep people illegally for well hell for however long we want to for no apparent reason too. We didn't do snatch and grabs over boarders thoug, we were in a hostile country going after known fugitives, much like Bill Clinton had Seals and Delta Force do in Bosnia...... We don't? Only when they are war criminal's and people who are indicted by the ICC. Okay, you believe that if it makes it easier for you to sleep at night. Look it up. You know it is not going to make the nightly news and Fox sure ain't gonna air it. Actually it did make the nightly news, on all major syndacations and I remember it because it was the first time Seal Team 6 was publically identified as well as admitting their missions along with Delta Force, almost remember it like it was yesterday. Not to mention they even made a documentary of it. |
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Dragoness
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Sun 09/19/10 02:47 PM
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Just look it up is all I am going to say. Getting this thread back on track here, Iran has never nor will they ever be a threat to this country. Neither was Iraq or Afghanistan. We like to stick our spoon in other people's pots by force and stir them. |
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Edited by
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Just look it up is all I am going to say. Getting this thread back on track here, Iran has never nor will they ever be a threat to this country. Neither was Iraq or Afghanistan. We like to stick our spoon in other people's pots and stir them. Actually you should look it up, being that the SEALS and SAS really screwed up and put us in a bind. They couldn't capture their first target and had to kill him in front of his brother in law and sonand their fishing cottage(and left them behind as witnesses). Then they broke in to a hospital disguised as aid workers and had to be evacuated in a histile military zone by helocopters after capturing their target but leaving close to two dozen witnesses. Last but not least kidnapping a General and starting a fire fight with Serbian forces at a boarder check point. Leaving a ton of witnesses including the General's bodyguards and his personal driver who identified both US and SAS operatives. Yea, Clinton managed that right. |
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Okay so you can still look it up on how many people we snatch without giving them any rights and we can get this thread back on topic.
If you want to start an illegal war you have make the target fear inspiring, right? Everyone remembers the Saddam fiasco. Weapons of Mass destruction and he was such an evil man that we had to go and kill up the whole country |
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Okay so you can still look it up on how many people we snatch without giving them any rights and we can get this thread back on topic. If you want to start an illegal war you have make the target fear inspiring, right? Everyone remembers the Saddam fiasco. Weapons of Mass destruction and he was such an evil man that we had to go and kill up the whole country I also remember the mass graves, tortured Iraquis, women raped by Saddam and his two son's, Olympian's tortured and killed for losing........ Not an illegal war at all. |
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Very illegal war.
Just as the war in Iran will be if we allow the fearmongerers to have their way. It is the people who pay for these illegal wars with their lives. Many many innocent people pay for these wars with their lives. 100,000 is an underestimate of the innocent Iraqis who paid for our illegal war with their lives. Who knows how many innocent Afghanies there are who are now dead. |
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