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Topic: Reality check: Iran is not a nuclear threat
willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sun 09/19/10 04:24 PM
Cup of coffee, $1.50 Pair of jeans at Wal-Mart, $18.00 The look on the faces of the Leftists when their supreme leader sends in the troops, Priceless.

Atlantis75 Joined Wed 12/03/08 Posts: 8581	Sun 09/19/10 04:32 PM
Interesting reading for those who have patience and intelligence to comprehend: US confrontation with Iran http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=us_plans_to_use_military_force_against_iran

Atlantis75 Joined Wed 12/03/08 Posts: 8581	Sun 09/19/10 04:35 PM Edited by Atlantis75 on Sun 09/19/10 04:35 PM
Interesting time piece January 28, 1981: Reagan Officials Planning to Sell Arms to Iran The newly installed Reagan administration publicly maintains a hard line against Iran, a nation vastly unpopular among Americans who have not forgiven that nation for holding 52 of its citizens hostage for well over a year and murdering a CIA station chief. (Years later, Vice President Bush will call it “an understandable animosity, a hatred, really,” and add, “I feel that way myself.”) President Reagan’s secretary of state, Alexander Haig, says bluntly, “Let me state categorically today there will be no military equipment provided to the government of Iran.” Yet within weeks of taking office, Reagan officials will begin putting together a continuing package of secret arms sales to Iran. [New Yorker, 11/2/1992] http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=us_plans_to_use_military_force_against_iran_397#us_plans_to_use_military_force_against_iran_397 --- Facts are very terrible for those who refuse to accept them. They rather act like they don't exist.

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sun 09/19/10 04:40 PM
Interesting time piece January 28, 1981: Reagan Officials Planning to Sell Arms to Iran The newly installed Reagan administration publicly maintains a hard line against Iran, a nation vastly unpopular among Americans who have not forgiven that nation for holding 52 of its citizens hostage for well over a year and murdering a CIA station chief. (Years later, Vice President Bush will call it “an understandable animosity, a hatred, really,” and add, “I feel that way myself.”) President Reagan’s secretary of state, Alexander Haig, says bluntly, “Let me state categorically today there will be no military equipment provided to the government of Iran.” Yet within weeks of taking office, Reagan officials will begin putting together a continuing package of secret arms sales to Iran. [New Yorker, 11/2/1992] http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=us_plans_to_use_military_force_against_iran_397#us_plans_to_use_military_force_against_iran_397 --- Facts are very terrible for those who refuse to accept them. They rather act like they don't exist. Well, when there are 50+ American hostiages, all avenue's need to be looked at. Not to mention Regan did order the Navy to create a Special Ops team to get into Iran and get the hostiges..........

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sun 09/19/10 07:35 PM
Iran is a very serious threat. Don't take it from me though, Take it from Obama, Clinton, and George W. Bush. Something everyone can agree on. Listen to Ahmadinejad in his own words... Add to that the UN Security Council...and all the major world powers including China and Russia... Whatcha talkin' bout Willis?!? Hiding major nuclear enrichment facilities from supervision? Refusing to allow for external enrichment or reprocessing? Give us a break! There is only one reason that they would refuse to accept the generous offers aimed at reassuring the rest of the world and that reason is that they want to preserve the capability to pursue military use. A use that the civilized world should never abide in this self-declared genocidal and repressive militant Islamic terrorist supporting theocracy. Don't be ridiculous!

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sun 09/19/10 07:38 PM
Wow everyone is climbing aboard the fear wagon of the right to fear all that is associated with Islam, huh? It is sad to see and will cause loss of lives that is not necessary.

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sun 09/19/10 07:56 PM
Wow everyone is climbing aboard the fear wagon of the right to fear all that is associated with Islam, huh? It is sad to see and will cause loss of lives that is not necessary. Not fear, fact. Innocent American's are being held prisoner in Iran and they are slaughtering their own people for protesting election results. If we had a President with half a backbone he would know now is the right time to act in Iran, Spec Ops can get in there get our people out and provide the decent Iranian's with the materials needed to overthrow this murderous and tortourous regime in Iran and get them to their long overdue appointment at the ICC.

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sun 09/19/10 08:14 PM
Iran is a very serious threat. Don't take it from me though, Take it from Obama, Clinton, and George W. Bush. Something everyone can agree on. Listen to Ahmadinejad in his own words... Add to that the UN Security Council...and all the major world powers including China and Russia... Whatcha talkin' bout Willis?!? Hiding major nuclear enrichment facilities from supervision? Refusing to allow for external enrichment or reprocessing? Give us a break! There is only one reason that they would refuse to accept the generous offers aimed at reassuring the rest of the world and that reason is that they want to preserve the capability to pursue military use. A use that the civilized world should never abide in this self-declared genocidal and repressive militant Islamic terrorist supporting theocracy. Don't be ridiculous! Wow everyone is climbing aboard the fear wagon of the right to fear all that is associated with Islam, huh? It is sad to see and will cause loss of lives that is not necessary. Tell it to the U.N. Security Council, Israel, the coalition of Islamic states which also fear a nuclear armed Iran and all the rest of the major world powers who all recognize and support challenging Iran's open nuclear threats. There is a unanimity to acknowledging Iran's threats and nuclear covert and overt activities for a good reason. The threat is real. Unlike Iraq, there is world agreement, unlike Iraq the centrifuges are not only obvious but are joyfully celebrated by the repressive and backward and hostile openly genocidal Iranian regime. A govt recognized by everyone as a major supporter of terrorist activity. This is not Islamophobia. Get real.

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sun 09/19/10 08:18 PM
Iran is a very serious threat. Don't take it from me though, Take it from Obama, Clinton, and George W. Bush. Something everyone can agree on. Listen to Ahmadinejad in his own words... Add to that the UN Security Council...and all the major world powers including China and Russia... Whatcha talkin' bout Willis?!? Hiding major nuclear enrichment facilities from supervision? Refusing to allow for external enrichment or reprocessing? Give us a break! There is only one reason that they would refuse to accept the generous offers aimed at reassuring the rest of the world and that reason is that they want to preserve the capability to pursue military use. A use that the civilized world should never abide in this self-declared genocidal and repressive militant Islamic terrorist supporting theocracy. Don't be ridiculous! Wow everyone is climbing aboard the fear wagon of the right to fear all that is associated with Islam, huh? It is sad to see and will cause loss of lives that is not necessary. Tell it to the U.N. Security Council, Israel, the coalition of Islamic states which also fear a nuclear armed Iran and all the rest of the major world powers who all recognize and support challenging Iran's open nuclear threats. There is a unanimity to acknowledging Iran's threats and nuclear covert and overt activities for a good reason. The threat is real. Unlike Iraq, there is world agreement, unlike Iraq the centrifuges are not only obvious but are joyfully celebrated by the repressive and backward and hostile openly genocidal Iranian regime. A govt recognized by everyone as a major supporter of terrorist activity. This is not Islamophobia. Get real. Not to mention England, Canada, Austrailia, Japan, Saudi Arabi and half the Middle East, I guess the Saudi's are Islamiphobes also...... Oh wait that is where Mecca and Medina is, so no that can't be it.............

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sun 09/19/10 08:20 PM
Not to mention I can think of one part of the Geniva Convention that Iran is and has broken recently.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 09/19/10 08:47 PM
maybe you should research this further...they have directly disobeyed every UN, US, and the Nuclear regulatory commission that has been set in place for safegaurding nuclear power/weapons. they will not allow inspections, they have kicked out the UN from doing any inspections that every other nuclear power in the world agrees to and have been caught in direct lies. These regulatory laws are not set just for the rest of the world, but for their own safety as well... remember Chernobyl? that wiped out 25,000 thousand people in a matter of days, not including the long term radiation effects... It snot like they are answerable to the UN.....and just bcs inspections are not being allowed doesn't mean they are producing weapons of mass destruction......to tell you the truth if someone came to my country with a "search warrant" issued by foriegn governments.....I would slam the door to my country and laugh in their face too........I wouldnt allow them past my front door....and is an accusation probable cause...don't think so....besides what is the UN but a bunc.h of countries pulled together as a self imposed world police? And who gives them the right to police the world anyways? PS my grandmother worked on the Manhattan Project and was directly involved with the splitting of the atom and the creation of nucler weapons.......the intent was never to use them unless absolutely necessary.....they were meant to end wars not create them....and you could directly blame us for their creation......just a shame their r people that wish to use them.....everyone should be hand to hand combat only.......the way it was meant to be......no I don't understand why weapons are created to end wars either....but the use of these weapons could end the planet for everyone a it bears an innate responsibility when you create maintain and own them.... the inspections are for a reason... while i agree with you on the UN acting as a world police, when it come to nukes and nuclear power, it doesn't just effect the one country. when Chernobyl had it's melt down, it drifted in the upper atmosphere for years afterword.then it started falling in other countries and made them a slight bit "hotter". even N. Korea has a cloud of radioactive dust floating around it right now, from a new processing thing they have been using. Countries that have had nuclear abilities have experience that can help prevent that these mistakes.but i guess it's ok with you if that fallout just drifts around and kills millions of people if there is a mistake.

Seakolony Joined Fri 11/07/08 Posts: 11968	Mon 09/20/10 06:33 AM
maybe you should research this further...they have directly disobeyed every UN, US, and the Nuclear regulatory commission that has been set in place for safegaurding nuclear power/weapons. they will not allow inspections, they have kicked out the UN from doing any inspections that every other nuclear power in the world agrees to and have been caught in direct lies. These regulatory laws are not set just for the rest of the world, but for their own safety as well... remember Chernobyl? that wiped out 25,000 thousand people in a matter of days, not including the long term radiation effects... It snot like they are answerable to the UN.....and just bcs inspections are not being allowed doesn't mean they are producing weapons of mass destruction......to tell you the truth if someone came to my country with a "search warrant" issued by foriegn governments.....I would slam the door to my country and laugh in their face too........I wouldnt allow them past my front door....and is an accusation probable cause...don't think so....besides what is the UN but a bunc.h of countries pulled together as a self imposed world police? And who gives them the right to police the world anyways? PS my grandmother worked on the Manhattan Project and was directly involved with the splitting of the atom and the creation of nucler weapons.......the intent was never to use them unless absolutely necessary.....they were meant to end wars not create them....and you could directly blame us for their creation......just a shame their r people that wish to use them.....everyone should be hand to hand combat only.......the way it was meant to be......no I don't understand why weapons are created to end wars either....but the use of these weapons could end the planet for everyone a it bears an innate responsibility when you create maintain and own them.... the inspections are for a reason... while i agree with you on the UN acting as a world police, when it come to nukes and nuclear power, it doesn't just effect the one country. when Chernobyl had it's melt down, it drifted in the upper atmosphere for years afterword.then it started falling in other countries and made them a slight bit "hotter". even N. Korea has a cloud of radioactive dust floating around it right now, from a new processing thing they have been using. Countries that have had nuclear abilities have experience that can help prevent that these mistakes.but i guess it's ok with you if that fallout just drifts around and kills millions of people if there is a mistake. No government is subjective to another.................so we impose war for an inspection and pollute the atmosphere with war heads as well? That makes sense........

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Mon 09/20/10 03:45 PM
maybe you should research this further...they have directly disobeyed every UN, US, and the Nuclear regulatory commission that has been set in place for safegaurding nuclear power/weapons. they will not allow inspections, they have kicked out the UN from doing any inspections that every other nuclear power in the world agrees to and have been caught in direct lies. These regulatory laws are not set just for the rest of the world, but for their own safety as well... remember Chernobyl? that wiped out 25,000 thousand people in a matter of days, not including the long term radiation effects... It snot like they are answerable to the UN.....and just bcs inspections are not being allowed doesn't mean they are producing weapons of mass destruction......to tell you the truth if someone came to my country with a "search warrant" issued by foriegn governments.....I would slam the door to my country and laugh in their face too........I wouldnt allow them past my front door....and is an accusation probable cause...don't think so....besides what is the UN but a bunc.h of countries pulled together as a self imposed world police? And who gives them the right to police the world anyways? PS my grandmother worked on the Manhattan Project and was directly involved with the splitting of the atom and the creation of nucler weapons.......the intent was never to use them unless absolutely necessary.....they were meant to end wars not create them....and you could directly blame us for their creation......just a shame their r people that wish to use them.....everyone should be hand to hand combat only.......the way it was meant to be......no I don't understand why weapons are created to end wars either....but the use of these weapons could end the planet for everyone a it bears an innate responsibility when you create maintain and own them.... the inspections are for a reason... while i agree with you on the UN acting as a world police, when it come to nukes and nuclear power, it doesn't just effect the one country. when Chernobyl had it's melt down, it drifted in the upper atmosphere for years afterword.then it started falling in other countries and made them a slight bit "hotter". even N. Korea has a cloud of radioactive dust floating around it right now, from a new processing thing they have been using. Countries that have had nuclear abilities have experience that can help prevent that these mistakes.but i guess it's ok with you if that fallout just drifts around and kills millions of people if there is a mistake. No government is subjective to another.................so we impose war for an inspection and pollute the atmosphere with war heads as well? That makes sense........ well, nobody said they were gunna nuke iran... but if they do strike Israel, what do you think Israel will do?...btw, Egypt just started a nuke program too... but the world doesn't mind... why do you think that they are wanting to iran to stop and not Egypt?