Have you ever pondered about the links between them. Have you ever known that, most of what Jesus actually propagated is practiced by the Muslims only. Take the following examples:
Prohibition of Liquor
Prostrating with the head on the ground during prayer
Prohibition of pork
Washing the face, hands and feet before prayer
Belief in oneness of god
The wearing of the beard
The wearing of a turban
Total prohibition of interest/usury

Besides, have you ever known that the Quran is the only book that exists exactly in its original form and language since its revelation.

The Quran is the only book memorized by millions of people, of all ages, backgrounds, races, languages, from all over the world.
The Quran is the most recited book in the world.

There's no question in my mind that Christianity and Islam are simply two facets of the same original religious folklore. They are both offshoots of Judaism, and based on the "God of Abraham".

So the fact that they have a lot in common doesn't surprise me at all, they are basically the same religion that has fallen into many pieces.

The more important thing to realize is that all this does is prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that all these religions that are supposed based on "The Word of God" are truly nothing more than man-made superstitions and myths.

Thus if we want to consider a more realistic spirituality we should all turn to Easter Mysticism such as Buddhism that does not contain the "Word of God" but instead contains the wisdom of great thinkers.

There is not 'godhead' in the Eastern Mystical religions. At least not in their foundational philosophy. Although it is true that even the Easter Mystical religions have fallen into the trap of becoming closely associated with mythological tales which many people fail to recognize as mere parables to make a point.

These religions from the Mediterranean region are all dangerous because they all believe that they hold the "Word of God" and that is extremely dangerous. We really need to work toward getting people to see the folly in that idea.

There is no "Word of God". For if there was that "word" would be so utterly distorted and confused by now it would be FAR PAST TIME for our creator to come back in person and clarify what he/she/it truly wants from us.

Any creator that would just sit back and watch all of his children on Earth arguing over which book represents represents "His Word", and which interpretations of these books have any validation, would truly be an inept God in the first place. So none of those religions can be true anyway.

If we're going to believe in a spiritual essence of reality we need to look at the more abstract religions that don't claim to hold the "Word of God" but rather they merely claim to hold the "Wisdom of Man".

yes, I think of Qu ran as a reflection of old testament,,

Jesus is clearly one of those links that excludes Judaism but yet binds Christianity with Islam under one God that goes by many names...in which and one of those many names that God goes by has to be Allah

They are both man-made book written by racists, murderers and pedophiles.

lol, unlike good old american history,,,which we also are supposed to be proud of and learn from,,,,

The Quran is not the most recited book in the world because you have at least 500 million more Christians than Muslims in this world.The Holy bible is the best selling book of all time.In just the years 1816 and 1975 you have estimates of over 6,000,000,000 sold in over 2,000 languages.

Christianity and Islam have nothing in common.Christians have a live and let live frame of mind.Islam has a live to kill unbelievers frame of mind.Christians treat women with respect and women have all the rights men have.Islam treats women like property and forces women to live like slaves.Death,destruction,and suicide is not only allowed under Islam it is applauded and rewarded.Christians speak of forgivness,peace,and love.You can leave Christianity if you want for some other religion.There is no punishment by the church or by the bible.You leave Islam you are to be killed.


All the hype recently about Islam is nothing but a bunch of stupid people using Islam for any excuse to destroy Christianity and to destroy the United states.All the media attention in the world and all the posts I read about how wondeful Islam is can't change the facts that all over the world you have Muslims killing off people for the sole reason to divide,conqure,and murder so that Islam will be the #1 religion.Islam will never be the #1 religion.All the statistics show that Muslims are leaving Islam in record numbers for Christianity.

How about that?

Very very true. Christianity is about love. Killing someone for believing differently is NOT love. Trying to show someone the light by nicely and lovingly spreading the word IS love. Christians spread christianity by showing them love and the great things in life.

Well there you go.

The Old Testament God most certainly did teach people to seek out and kill heathens. So the Christian God is the same God.

If Jesus taught differently, then he most certainly was refuting the teachings of the Old Testament, as I have constantly been pointing out.

The main reason that many Christians like the teachings of Jesus so much is the very fact that Jesus taught against the nasty things that were so popular in the Old Testament.

Therefore this Jesus could not have been the "Only Begotten Son" of the God of the Old Testament because he blasphemed against those very teachings. In fact, it was those very teachings from the Old Testament God that got Jesus crucified!

Christianity is a schizophrenic religion. It worships two entirely conflicting Gods. It claims to worship the God of the Old Testament as the "Father" yet the Christians renounce the teachings and mannerisms of that God, and instead they place Jesus BEFORE the God of Abraham and use Jesus to renounce the teachings of the God of Abraham. Except in cases such as bigotry against gays when the Old Testament comes in handy to support their ugly bigotry.

Christians place Jesus BEFORE the God of Abraham and use him to override the teachings of the God of Abraham when they feel that is convenient, or they use the God of Abraham to override the teachings of Jesus when they feel that is convenient. It's a hypocritical two-faced religion.

Jesus supposedly has no clout of his own. The only thing that supposedly gives him any clout at all is the idea that he's supposed to be the only begotten son of this God they HATE. Isn't that a oxymoron right there?

Jesus is supposed to be the sacrificial lamb of this horrible God that everyone hates, even the Christians themselves. They are so in love with Jesus that they have placed Jesus BEFORE the God of Abraham and pretend that Jesus overrides the God of Abraham.

Yet, now they pretend that their original Father God never taught us to murder heathens. But it's clearly in the scriptures, the Old Testament God directed us to seek out and murder heathens! In fact, it was this very directive that was being followed when Jesus himself was crucified for blaspheme!

Blaspheme that was clearly genuine! Even now, Christians are attempting to claim that Jesus preached love and not to murder heathens, but clearly the FATHER DID teach us to murder heathens.

So clearly the Christians love Jesus but hate the Father.

Jesus had to have been a Mahayana Buddhist who taught the love of Buddha. Jesus couldn't have had anything at all to do with the fictitious God of the Old Testament.

Jesus did indeed teach unconditional love and forgiveness. But the God of the Old Testament did not!

Jesus cannot possibly be the son of the God of the Old Testament. Jesus didn't even agree with the teachings of that false God.

The Christians need to wake-up and realize that they've been duped. Not by Jesus, but by the authors of the New Testament! Jesus taught against the teachings of the Old Testament, he didn't support those ideals. He was not the Son of Yahweh and never even claimed to be!

The New Testament is a false representation of Jesus that only adds insult to injury. The authors of the New Testament are the same people who had Jesus nailed to the pole! They physically had him nailed to the pole, and then later they wrote the gospels that nailed to him to the Old Testament God in an attempt to support the very teachings that Jesus himself rejected!

Jesus rejected the teachings of the Old Testament, he didn't embrace them. Jesus was a VICTIM of Christianity. The sooner people start to realize this the better. Jesus had nothing to do with the Old Testament God. Jesus was teaching the love of Buddhism and Pantheism, not the Bigotry of the Old Testament God of Abraham.

Not exactly. You may know what's in the bible, but you're not grabbing the meaning of it or taking it in all it's context.

With your way of thinking just because a judge sentences someone to the death penalty they should be killed to because they've committed murder with your theory. Or even the people that physically carried out the execution.

Remember, the only reward for sin is death. And in the old testament times, eg., before Jesus we were punished on earth for our sins. Thus if someone sinned they were killed *they were sentenced with the penalty of death for their wrong doings*.

So nothing really has changed, only when we are judged. The teachings of the old testament and new testament are fairly close other then when and how we are judged for our sins.

For instance.

Receiving forgiveness of sins
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Old testament
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We sacrificed animals, and objects we need. We sacrificed them showing our father we trust that our father will provide for us.

New Testament
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We sacrifice certain actions. We take what we get, we sacrifice the action of stealing stuff. We sacrifice our strongly hateful feelings of hitting someone by not doing as such. All in all we sacrifice our lives to live according to God's word to receive the gift of heaven.

Christians try to take the high road now but they were no different in recent times. Death to all heathens and heretics. They massacred countless people throughout their history and now faced with the same concepts that they practiced all this time they want to call it evil.

They are the same. Technical differences and Christianity has learned you can burn more bees with honey than vinegar and Islam hasn't learned this concept yet. They are a little behind the times.

Again it was NOT murdering. The only reward for sin is death. They brought that upon themselves with disobeying our father. Murder is unlawfully killing someone. Being sentenced to death because of wrong doings isn't unlawful.

burn bees? do you mean catch?

you kinda sound like the muslims... they kill people for what they think are sins...

They flat out murder the people without even knowing them or their backgrounds. Heck the people they murder sometimes even could be muslim themselves....... could be a total saint, but they don't know this for that's not their purpose behind the things they do.

i agree - but so did Christians and Catholics.. did you forget about the crusades?
i think that's what dragoness was referring too...

I'm not defending the christians who did this. Those Christians were just as wrong as the muslims. Two wrongs don't make a right. What is bad for the goose is bad for the gander.

The crusades weren't "christian". Christianity in it's own teaches love, care, giving, and forgiveness.

We are not to judge others.
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Matthew 7:2
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
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So what would christians gain from judging others?

The crusades were a reaction to the Muslims killing,conquering,and destroying the Christians everywhere they went.The crusades were never started for the sole purpose of starting a War with the world and to kill everyone.The crusades were started because it was either fight back or be destroyed by the Muslims.Of course I don't expect any Atheist or anti Christian person on this planet to actually read or do some research on the crusades because I know that is asking a lot.

In any case I really don't know why we have to keep going back hundreds or thousands of years and act like this is somehow relevant to our way of life and our way of justice.Should we also talk about how England still uses torture devices on prisoners to get confessions?Maybe we can spend a day talking about all the forms of justice that was used by all forms of religion and all the countries around the world 2000 years ago and tell all those countries that they are all bad because of their justice system 2,000 years ago and should be punished today.It's a bunch of nonsense.Why Christianity is the exception to this rule I have no idea.


The more I debate some of you people the more pointless it is.We have issues concerning Islam that is happening right now all over the world.We have people being stoned in the name of Islam,people being blown to pieces in the name of Islam,people having their heads cut off in the name of Islam and what do I keep hearing?Christianity is the problem because of what they did 3,000 years ago when the Egyptians were building the pyramids.The whole world could be in chaos and on fire because of Islam and you people would be debating Christianity which is no threat to anyone anywhere in the world no matter who you are.


Get real people.You think Christianity is bad then show me some proof.Show me someone who was stoned in the last 2,000 years in the name of Christianity.Show me suicide bombings on a daily basis.Show me beheadings,threats to other countries,beatings,and honor killings.You can't because they don't exist.