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original site contains more charts and stats and external links to data-http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/
CNN recently published an article entitled Study: Threat of Muslim-American terrorism in U.S. exaggerated; according to a study released by Duke University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, “the terrorist threat posed by radicalized Muslim-Americans has been exaggerated.” Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom). Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company. Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist! The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews). Let them dare say it…they couldn’t; it would be political and social suicide to say such a thing. Most Americans would shut down such talk as bigoted; yet, similar statements continue to be said of Islam, without any repercussions. The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? (For the record: I don’t believe in such profiling, because I am–unlike the right wing nutters–a believer in American ideals.) The moral of the story is that Americans ought to calm down when it comes to Islamic terrorism. Right wingers always live in mortal fear–or rather, they try to make you feel that way. In fact, Pamela Geller (the queen of internet Islamophobia) literally said her mission was to “scare the bejeezus outta ya.” Don’t be fooled, and don’t be a wuss. You don’t live in constant fear of radicalized Latinos (unless you’re Lou Dobbs), even though they commit seven times more acts of terrorism than Muslims in America. Why then are you wetting yourself over Islamic radicals? In the words of Cenk Uygur: you’re at a ten when you need to be at a four. Nobody is saying that Islamic terrorism is not a matter of concern, but it’s grossly exaggerated. |
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Edited by
willing2
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Wed 06/30/10 03:02 PM
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original site contains more charts and stats and external links to data-http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/ CNN recently published an article entitled Study: Threat of Muslim-American terrorism in U.S. exaggerated; according to a study released by Duke University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, “the terrorist threat posed by radicalized Muslim-Americans has been exaggerated.” Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom). Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company. Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist! The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews). Let them dare say it…they couldn’t; it would be political and social suicide to say such a thing. Most Americans would shut down such talk as bigoted; yet, similar statements continue to be said of Islam, without any repercussions. The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? (For the record: I don’t believe in such profiling, because I am–unlike the right wing nutters–a believer in American ideals.) The moral of the story is that Americans ought to calm down when it comes to Islamic terrorism. Right wingers always live in mortal fear–or rather, they try to make you feel that way. In fact, Pamela Geller (the queen of internet Islamophobia) literally said her mission was to “scare the bejeezus outta ya.” Don’t be fooled, and don’t be a wuss. You don’t live in constant fear of radicalized Latinos (unless you’re Lou Dobbs), even though they commit seven times more acts of terrorism than Muslims in America. Why then are you wetting yourself over Islamic radicals? In the words of Cenk Uygur: you’re at a ten when you need to be at a four. Nobody is saying that Islamic terrorism is not a matter of concern, but it’s grossly exaggerated. CNN is a biased news source. I can tell by the phrases they use. (Islamophobes) ![]() ![]() Terrorism in the US may be grossly exaggerated. However, Sharia Law is being pushed here and I am certain it will be stirred into American culture. If, the proponents tried to push it all at once, there'd be hell to pay. That's why Sharia is called the creeping Law. It's poured in a little at a time so the frog won't realize it's being boiled. I post about the dangers of Sharia to help folks be aware. To the probability that one day, we could be under strict Islamic Laws. Being informed and informing is not fear based. It's just information. |
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Edited by
heavenlyboy34
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Wed 06/30/10 03:14 PM
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CNN is a biased news source. I can tell by the phrases they use. (Islamophobes) ![]() ![]() Terrorism in the US may be grossly exaggerated. However, Sharia Law is being pushed here and I am certain it will be stirred into American culture. If, the proponents tried to push it all at once, there'd be hell to pay. That's why Sharia is called the creeping Law. It's poured in a little at a time so the frog won't realize it's being boiled. I post about the dangers of Sharia to help folks be aware. To the probability that one day, we could be under strict Islamic Laws. Being informed and informing is not fear based. It's just information. If you had actually READ the article, you would know that CNN is not the source! A CNN report is only incidental to the rest of the article. C'mon, willing, you know better than to pull such fallacious logic. |
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mightymoe
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Wed 06/30/10 03:29 PM
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probably the muslims wrote that article...i don't remember any Jews flying into any buildings, or strapping any bombs to their butts and walking in a bus station... Oh, but they explained that...
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original site contains more charts and stats and external links to data-http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/ CNN recently published an article entitled Study: Threat of Muslim-American terrorism in U.S. exaggerated; according to a study released by Duke University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, “the terrorist threat posed by radicalized Muslim-Americans has been exaggerated.” Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom). Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company. Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist! The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews). Let them dare say it…they couldn’t; it would be political and social suicide to say such a thing. Most Americans would shut down such talk as bigoted; yet, similar statements continue to be said of Islam, without any repercussions. The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? (For the record: I don’t believe in such profiling, because I am–unlike the right wing nutters–a believer in American ideals.) The moral of the story is that Americans ought to calm down when it comes to Islamic terrorism. Right wingers always live in mortal fear–or rather, they try to make you feel that way. In fact, Pamela Geller (the queen of internet Islamophobia) literally said her mission was to “scare the bejeezus outta ya.” Don’t be fooled, and don’t be a wuss. You don’t live in constant fear of radicalized Latinos (unless you’re Lou Dobbs), even though they commit seven times more acts of terrorism than Muslims in America. Why then are you wetting yourself over Islamic radicals? In the words of Cenk Uygur: you’re at a ten when you need to be at a four. Nobody is saying that Islamic terrorism is not a matter of concern, but it’s grossly exaggerated. jewish terrorism! ![]() ![]() ![]() is that even POSSIBLE???,,,,(sarcasm) |
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If they can't CONDEMN their own terrorists and their actions, then they acquiesce in them and are equally as complicit as an actual terrorist. The legal principle is: "Silence implies acquiescence".
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If they can't CONDEMN their own terrorists and their actions, then they acquiesce in them and are equally as complicit as an actual terrorist. The legal principle is: "Silence implies acquiescence". cant silence also imply manners in some social situations, and FEAR in others,,? |
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Edited by
Geniee
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Wed 06/30/10 03:45 PM
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probably the muslims wrote that article...i don't remember any Jews flying into any buildings, or strapping any bombs to their butts and walking in a bus station... Oh, but they explained that... Look to Israel and you'll see plenty...Yaakov Tytell for example. I hope we don't let our hatred go that far. For them it started with believing that all Jewish people are terrorists. Hopefully we can lean a lesson from their mistakes. |
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Muslims and Jews have been at war for thousands of years...of course they will both say things like that about each other. the Jews aren't innocent either... but right now, the Jews are not the problem.
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probably the muslims wrote that article...i don't remember any Jews flying into any buildings, or strapping any bombs to their butts and walking in a bus station... Oh, but they explained that... The Zionists don't have to do that. They have the Americans do that for them. ![]() |
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Muslims and Jews have been at war for thousands of years...of course they will both say things like that about each other. the Jews aren't innocent either... but right now, the Jews are not the problem. They are in the sense that they have undue influence over foreign policy through groups like AIPAC. |
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Muslims and Jews have been at war for thousands of years...of course they will both say things like that about each other. the Jews aren't innocent either... but right now, the Jews are not the problem. I suppose not, if you are only concerned with terrorist acts in the States, and not terrorist attacks on American facilities abroad...like maybe Cairo. I don't believe all Jews are terrorists because of those and other acts against westerners. Had they succeeded, many more would have been killed than were in the World Trade Center. Isn't it the deed that counts, and not the success of the attack? If so, than it's no different in my eyes. It just surprises me that while most Americans have no idea Jewish terrorists groups even exist, an attack that causes casualties has non-Muslim citizens believing all Muslims are Jihadists, while Jews remain the most peace-loving religious group of all time. *scratches head while looking baffled* |
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CNN, yea such a reliable source.
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CNN, yea such a reliable source. ![]() I didn't quote CNN. The source I quoted uses raw data from CNN. This is entirely different-this is basic Media 101. Get up to speed, man! ![]() |
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Edited by
Kings_Knight
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Wed 06/30/10 04:56 PM
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If they can't CONDEMN their own terrorists and their actions, then they acquiesce in them and are equally as complicit as an actual terrorist. The legal principle is: "Silence implies acquiescence". cant silence also imply manners in some social situations, and FEAR in others,,? You're kidding, right ... ? This is a SERIOUS question about dealing with TERRORISM and you're worrying about MANNERS ... ? I don't particularly believe it's good 'manners' to BEHEAD people just because they refuse to follow the ravings of some 7th Century misogynist ... I don't believe it's good 'manners' to stay silent when TERRORISTS will slit your throat because you have a prettier goat than they do. 'SOCIAL SITUATIONS'? 'FEAR'? Does flying airplanes into skyscrapers qualify as times when SILENCE would have HELPED ... ? Did the SILENCE about the terrorists taking flying lessons and not being concerned about how to LAND THE PLANE help? You can't possibly be serious with that response ... |
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CNN, yea such a reliable source. ![]() actually, according to a study released by Duke University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database the data seems to include pretty reliable sources,,, |
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Muslims and Jews have been at war for thousands of years...of course they will both say things like that about each other. the Jews aren't innocent either... but right now, the Jews are not the problem. I suppose not, if you are only concerned with terrorist acts in the States, and not terrorist attacks on American facilities abroad...like maybe Cairo. I don't believe all Jews are terrorists because of those and other acts against westerners. Had they succeeded, many more would have been killed than were in the World Trade Center. Isn't it the deed that counts, and not the success of the attack? If so, than it's no different in my eyes. It just surprises me that while most Americans have no idea Jewish terrorists groups even exist, an attack that causes casualties has non-Muslim citizens believing all Muslims are Jihadists, while Jews remain the most peace-loving religious group of all time. *scratches head while looking baffled* |
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If they can't CONDEMN their own terrorists and their actions, then they acquiesce in them and are equally as complicit as an actual terrorist. The legal principle is: "Silence implies acquiescence". cant silence also imply manners in some social situations, and FEAR in others,,? You're kidding, right ... ? This is a SERIOUS question about dealing with TERRORISM and you're worrying about MANNERS ... ? I don't particularly believe it's good 'manners' to BEHEAD people just because they refuse to follow the ravings of some 7th Century misogynist ... I don't believe it's good 'manners' to stay silent when TERRORISTS will slit your throat because you have a prettier goat than they do. 'SOCIAL SITUATIONS'? 'FEAR'? Does flying airplanes into skyscrapers qualify as times when SILENCE would have HELPED ... ? Did the SILENCE about the terrorists taking flying lessons and not being concerned about how to LAND THE PLANE help? You can't possibly be serious with that response ... I was responding to your legal principle,, and regarding beheading, I think that silence could easily be attributed to fear and regarding peoples throat being slit, again silence could come from fear and regarding flying airplanes into skyscrapers, fear (of retaliation) could also explain silence and there wasnt SILENCE about the lessons, as I remember officials were WARNED about it,,, |
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CNN, yea such a reliable source. ![]() actually, according to a study released by Duke University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database the data seems to include pretty reliable sources,,, key word there "seems" that makes it all true.. when you have some, look some of this stuff up for yourself. you might be surprised. |
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I'm sorry Joe. I thought you were stating that all Muslims are responsible. You obviously believe there is a difference between true Muslim practice and "fanaticals".
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