i can just imagine the amount of 'let's rob a bank' emails that will randomly be sent out over the course of the next few days.

Yeah I know. But, I hope most will be a little more creative and come up with their own game to play. Something that puts their own personality out there. If they just cut and paste this it may get a reply, but then what? She likely won't say exactly the same things this young lady said.

PUA (pick up artist)
Two of the more famous ones are David deAngelo
and David Black
That is if you are curious.



www.seductionbase.com/cocky_and_funny_lines

The trouble with David D and the others is it's still pick up lines. It's not being yourself and putting yourself out there. Besides, what you say doesn't matter. It's how you say it that does the job. A nervous guy that looks at his shoes while reciting a line won't get anywhere. But a confident man that looks her in the eye and says "I like salad!" will do alright.

It's about the overall vibe the guy puts out.

I think that stuff is a good place to start, but sooner or later you'll have to put yourself out there. It's better to be real from the get go.

I'm sorry dude. I know your techniques work, but they read like chapter and verse right out of the PUA handbook. They are okay if you're only looking to add notches to your gun and brag about how successful they are on the internet. But forming a real long lasting relationship is more than just collecting phone numbers.

Well stated!!

How are you going to form a relationship if you can't attract someone to have one with? If you have better ideas you should post them and I could learn from you.

This is how a relationship starts. By having fun with a stranger. You have fun and form an emotional connection. You have to be yourself from "hello."

I know about the PUA stuff, but I don't follow it. I'm what those guys call a "natural." Or maybe I just figured it out 20 years sooner. I don't know.

What I do know is I'm fun. I'm creative and I can get dates. As for a relationships go, I guess I'm still looking for a woman that can put up with my ADHD and forgetfulness. Forgetting things seems to really rub a lot of women the wrong way. They think I don't listen or worse, don't care.

I'm not selling anything. I'm really just trying to help. If you don;t need or want the help, fine. Good for you. Go out and find that special woman for you. But, I know from talking to a lot of women and from reading threads on this site that a lot of men do want and need some help.

Why do you want to tinkle on the parade? Have you tried the PUA stuff and it didn't work for you? If so maybe you should read my last post to understand why. You don't give off a fun cool vibe. At least not in this thread.

No you would be called a stud

In order to start a relationship, don't you have to meet people first? That's the first step, right?

I guess I'm just not seeing why some people are so turned off by putting a little fun into meeting someone. Too many people here are so serious.

when i made this same point you rejected as having nothing to do with your post....interesting?

Dang.... I knew there was something that I was forgetting...

I think that's the part some others are forgetting, too.

Wow! Condescending much?

The part you don’t understand is that no one is saying to take a dull and lifeless approach here. What poeple have said, (myself included) is that you had better bring more to the table. Such as honesty, integrity and the ability to communicate about the real world and real issues, not just the fantasy world of your example.

The other thing you don’t seem to comprehend here is this, when you are having these conversations, the women you are talking to are gathering information about the kind of person you are. The same goes for the answers and arguments you have shared in this thread. While you may be making deposits into the humor bank, (subjective as this may be), the thinly veiled “get`em into the win column” and the “baffle`em with bullsh*t” attitude displayed here are leaving the character, the sincerity, the maturity, the respect, the moral fiber and the big picture accounts, less than adequately funded.

Ohhh yeah, *slaps forehead* we are not supposed to comment on the entire post, just the part you want us to. My bad, okay, I can do this...you did get her number and you did meet with her. Well that’s wonderful! I mean, rrrr, grrr, uggg, ug!!!!!

Did you greet her with your best cheesy AM radio voice as well?
“Glllad ya chose to spennd paart of your day with me.” “Doon’t you worry `bout a thing...III’ll be spinning allll my hits for ya!, just as soooon as I payyy some bills.” “The next segment of my morning coffee zoooo is brrrought to you by, Time Warner and their new release...How To Master Walking Upright, A Scoundrels’ Guide To Healthier Knuckles.” “Get your copy todaay!!”

Lastly; since you insist on giving me pet names and blowing me kisses, I have to tell you, I fully support your choice to swing both ways and I am flattered (sort of) by your advances, but sorry, I must reject your offer. Good for you though, trying to expand your dating pool. I am sure you find the right guy soon enough. That is, if he has a preference to style over substance.

KC, did you ever share your approach with everyone? I'm interested in hearing what works for you. What I liked about TS' approach was that it was different. It added a bit of humor. It wasn't the same old "hi, what's up" kind of approach that 90% of men use. Most guys send emails that sound just like most other guys' emails. I don't care if guys follow this example or not, but I'd love to see something a little bit different for once.

Right now, all you're doing is coming off as a cranky, unhappy person. Instead of being that way, why not share what works for you? Perhaps it will help others.

This is all lovely advice, ahhem, now come up with a solution to those folks that send that type of opening e-mail, start a conversation, get that date and then that person that wrote that very clever first email does not show up to that date. What then? Where is the originality, that someone else taught the e-mail writer, going to carry them when they can not follow through on their own?

Personally, I really do not want an e-mail from someone that ends up not being a true representation of who they really are. (Parroted words that another has suggested that would work as an ice breaker.)All I know is that I would like to get an e-mail that shows that the sender has at least taken the time to look at my profile and respond in some way to what I said in that profile.

I know this was started to help folks sending first e-mails to stand out, thus inproving the odds of getting a date. But I think being yourself and being honest about who you are will get you better odds.

no i haven't, i am not actively seeking dates. i will share with you this, when i am interested in someone i never follow a formula or a patterned agenda. i rely on being honest and being me.

I've given up on getting anything out of this site other than idle conversation. Nobody who might be interested in me lives anywhere near me, sadly. Oh well.

I just like it when he hits me in the head with a club

and drags me to the cave!!!!


Laugh everyone!!!!!!

What ever happened to just being real????

one way works for someone and another way works for another.