This video sums it up very well. If you watch FOCKS then you are being brainwashed with nonsense most of the time.

It really is that simple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3LUid0IZ2w



But it's really not funny when you consider their help in propping up the Dippic and his friends, the "evil doers" of his party who
helped get us into two bullshiet wars and bankrupted our country.

But if you listen only to Clusterfox (or AM radio) you can't know this...

as opposed to MSNBC????

I take all media with a grain of salt....on both sides.

Why am I not surprised that this is a reporter from MSNBC? Some here will even tell you that youtube isn't a reliable source

There are not "two sides" here but you'll only get that if you watch the video or see the documentary called Outfoxed...

And that's really Rached Maddow, a Rhodes Scholar and an honest TV journalist so I am not sure what youtube has to do with this.

so because MSNBC says so about their rival, then it must be true????

I take all media with a grain of salt.

BTW...the youtube thing is because some here don't consider it reliable because the person that posted the video could edit or leave things out.

Russia Today is challenging all the American networks, by setting up a network channel right here in USA.

Go check and see the difference in reporting, instead of fighting between the same old left/right paradigm where both are wrong.

http://rt.com/USA.html

also their youtube channel:

Live from DC! RT starts broadcasting from the US

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I26_PD9-Wvc


these ads were rejected from all US airports, approved everywhere else

Thanks for the link, I reviewed a bit and see some of their reporting is AP and OM based and they also quote Wayne Madsen...WMR?

They claim a partnership with HuffPo... not sure why the opinion the President Obama (per the cartoon) is possibly a larger threat with nuclear proliferation than the Irananian government...that's weird.

And:

http://rt.com/About_Us/Blogs/A_Contrarian_View_of_History_and_Events.html

"Now it appears, the Republican nomination anyway, must pass through the doors of the Fox News Channel. Sarah Palin was announced tonight as a paid Fox News contributor, joining another RNC presidential hopeful, Governor Mike Huckabee, on the network’s payroll. Now, we will hear her screechy voice (actually they say Lincoln had a screechy voice too) and feel her fiery rhetoric uncensored, as she calls a spade a spade for Middle America."

Sarah Palin speaks for Middle America? That's as bad as saying that rural America is the "real America"...that sounds FOCKSy...

So when are they hitting cable? If they do then great but if they turn out to be a propaganda machine for a political party then people should be aware of that...unlike the viewers of FOCKS who blindly suck on that teet with pleasure.

seems to me that this thread is doing just what you criticize FOX for

presenting only one side and demonizing the other side

what's the difference?

MSNBC does not consider FOCKS a rival (in TV journalistic integrity) and just points out they are not real news...I saw the original broadcast of this Maddow video and it's not edited on youtube.

I am not like FOCKS when I research and support an opinion...of course as Outfoxed displays, FOCKS is a propaganga machine of the GOP and now the T-Baggers party...uh, that they helped create based on hopeful political gain and corporate greed.

"Outfoxed examines how media empires, led by Rupert Murdoch's Fox News, have been running a "race to the bottom" in television news. This film provides an in-depth look at Fox News and the dangers of ever-enlarging corporations taking control of the public's right to know"

http://www.outfoxed.org/

Hopefully, OBamas face is symbolic for American policy in general since OBama is one of the more diplomatic NON violent presidents we have had. IN terms of policy though, WHO is the ONLY country to EVER have used a nuclear weapon before? I can see that point(about America, not OBama specifically).

Just the facts. I don't see arguments supporting FOCKS as a "fair and balanced" news org here.

The only people who don't seem to know FOCKS are shills are their stubborn viewers who cannot change or accept they've been duped into supporting failed agendas of wars, destruction, and the horrible fiscal decisions that have bankrupted our economy.



http://www.newshounds.us/

and at the same time FOX consistently beats all the other news organizations for ratings and viewer share


the thing to remember is that FOX and CNN and all the others are not in the business of disseminating information or news. They are in the business of selling advertising

all the news channels sell a demographic viewing audience to the advertisers. and then they tailor their news presentation to retain that viewer demographic. they all do this

* pssst....*

The difference is because he's a Liberal and FOX is conservative.

Broad stroke to assume I am "liberal"....I am a fiscal conservative and with my anti-teen drug org I am for a moral-thru-sobriety society. I don't see the "moral majority" attacking the alcohol industry for peddling their drugs to children...HERE, look at the damage: (why are you conservative family values people totally ignoring this?)

http://www.alcoholthenarcotic.com/I_AM_ALCOHOL.html

It's not my fault that the GOP are no longer conservative except for their flawed ideological leanings...which they fail at as well.

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And to the blue poster, FOCKS attracks the gullible, lower IQ in this country...and we have a lot of them. FOCKS only leads in cable "news" and more people watch CNN/NBC/ABC/CBS together than FOCKS. Numbers don't defend the hack job that FOCKS is...

How ironic that an op-ed outlet/fake news/propaganda outlet like MSNBC criticizes Faux News for doing the same.

Obama has been expanded the Middle-East wars, now strikes Yemen and Pakistan with drone and cruise missile attacks. A german general quit after seeing the destruction he was partially responsible in Afghanistan and sharply criticized the US military actions.

Most of the people in USA are sharply divided between 2 parties, both accusing each other with various things, including internal and external affairs, while remain in a coma and the government continues to push the scare propaganda with the "terrorists who hate our freedom" and keep snipping away all the liberty and freedom all the citizens once had, while justify the expansion of wars, and the majority of the gullible public goes along with the propaganda, while banks are sweeping in massive bonuses and the unemployment and foreclosures and bankruptcies continue to rise.

And yet...not being a Liberal...you take what MSNBC and the other " news " channels say as gospel.

I totally agree that the Republican party has lost it's way.

Of course they aren't going to attack alcohol. I would be willing to bet that damn near every one of them imbibes more often than not.

The cigarette tax here in Michigan has been raised several times over the last few years.

But...the alcohol tax hasn't been raised in decades.

Why?? The Democratic Governor here says that it would effect " Everyday Joe " and it wouldn't be fair. They completely and utterly ignore the fact that alcohol adds just as much cost to our health care as any other substance because they USE that product.

Sure but I was using that as an example of how the RW "moral majority" take their talking points...basically their lockstep instructions from RW outlets, they only seem to know what they are told to know...seems like they'd at least try to see through the fog and center on the realities instead of the truthiness.

(You're correct on the tax thing..in Okieland not one dime from the sales of the drug alcohol goes towards treatment and prevention. It's bizarre.)

"The debate over whether Fox News is a legitimate news enterprise has seized many in the press and academia. But the transparently partisan presentation in their reporting should make for a short and dull debate. Now, an uncharacteristically honest depiction of Fox News can found in an unlikely place.

TV Guide publishes the industry’s most widely read magazine of program listings and this is how they categorize news programming for their readers"

See it here:

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=602

"Note that according to the legend on the top right of the page, the purple highlighting designates a program as “news”. Then, scanning down to the listings, you will see that TV Guide does not consider The O’Reilly Factor to be a news program. However, glancing down a little further reveals that TV Guide does view Keith Olbermann’s Countdown as news. Dig even further than that and you’ll see that the entire Fox News schedule is not designated as news with the exception of Studio B with Shepard Smith. Even Special Report, the program anchored by Brit Hume, Fox News’ managing editor and chief Washington correspondent, is apparently not really news. On MSNBC, Countdown and MSNBC Live are the only programs tagged as news. But CNN’s entire broadcast day is identified as news except for Lou Dobbs and Larry King. (Source: TV Guide September 17-23, 2007)

Now, on a cursory level, that may just appear to be an obvious and objective evaluation of the content on these networks. CNN has always been a dedicated news programmer, just as Fox has always been a propaganda vehicle for the Republican National Committee. But there may be something more to this than just the labeling of program content."

problem is, I see that coming from the righties AND the lefties. the "liberals" and the "progressives" don't seem to have any opinion that isn't spoonfed to them by moveon.org (or in specific cases smirkingshimp.com)

and either side says "it's okay for us, but THEY are out of line"

and I don't personally see any difference between the two

Moveon.org? Never been to their site...and the reason RW'ers don't see a difference is they are afraid to look...or just can't accept being wrong and having to accept they were/are being duped.