Topic: can anybody prove to me a GOD??
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Sun 06/06/10 07:58 PM

there is actually more proof of God then the age of the dinosaurs. What we call the bible today is a gathered book of scrolls that were written in the time Jesus was on this earth.


The Bible wasn't written until long after Jesus' supposed life came to an end. Those that wrote about him, never met him.

Also keep in mind that there have been several "meetings" to decide what was put in the book, and what was left out. You aren't reading the truth, you are reading only what primitive people want you to read.

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Sun 06/06/10 08:03 PM



You do realize that in Science, Theory is actually above Fact, right?

Basically, anything that we observe (in any way) happening (such the wind blowing, or the rain falling, birds flying, etc.)

A Hypothesis is an educated guess, based on what we have observed.

A Theory is summarizes a number of hypotheses.

Keep in mind, Gravity is "just" a theory, as is the heliocentric solar system.

And that is leaving out that Evolution has been observed.


good points, they are still nevertheless THEORYS.


Still doesn't change the FACT that Evolution is observable, and has been observed. Being a Theory doesn't make it any less true. There are several places, like medicine for example, that operate on Evolution being true, and what they work on (medicine, for my previous example) would NOT work if Evolution wasn't True.
Which is a lot more than can be said for your magic man.

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Sun 06/06/10 08:03 PM
Many or most Christians error in understanding of the Earth as to age. There is no conflict between evolution and creation.

God first created the Earth, it was to be an abode for the Angels and a learn ground. Satan got the big head and dared to try to accend to heaven and take his throne. The Earth along with all creation went through a war and great destrution occured. As to the Earth, about 6000 years ago, God renewed the surface of the Earth and created man after their own image. The old manlike beings were not after their kind before the battle. Many creatures and plants were recreated after thier kind. The Earth is billions? million? years old. The time from Adam to now is a little less than 6000 years.

*Also read as Noah loaded animal two by two "after their kind" meaning he loaded them two by two according to their kind. Just as God recreated animals and plants (his choice as to which) after (occording to their kind.

There is no conflict of age.

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Sun 06/06/10 08:06 PM


there is actually more proof of God then the age of the dinosaurs. What we call the bible today is a gathered book of scrolls that were written in the time Jesus was on this earth.


The Bible wasn't written until long after Jesus' supposed life came to an end. Those that wrote about him, never met him.

Also keep in mind that there have been several "meetings" to decide what was put in the book, and what was left out. You aren't reading the truth, you are reading only what primitive people want you to read.


yes the BIBLE was not written until long after Jesus cause it took a while to gather ALL the different writtings from that time.

And what proof do you have of anyone leaving anything out? If none then that is Hearsay.

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Sun 06/06/10 08:06 PM
Forgive my spelling.....good night!

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Sun 06/06/10 08:09 PM

Many or most Christians error in understanding of the Earth as to age. There is no conflict between evolution and creation.

God first created the Earth, it was to be an abode for the Angels and a learn ground. Satan got the big head and dared to try to accend to heaven and take his throne. The Earth along with all creation went through a war and great destrution occured. As to the Earth, about 6000 years ago, God renewed the surface of the Earth and created man after their own image. The old manlike beings were not after their kind before the battle. Many creatures and plants were recreated after thier kind. The Earth is billions? million? years old. The time from Adam to now is a little less than 6000 years.

*Also read as Noah loaded animal two by two "after their kind" meaning he loaded them two by two according to their kind. Just as God recreated animals and plants (his choice as to which) after (occording to their kind.

There is no conflict of age.


thank you, very good :D

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Sun 06/06/10 08:09 PM

Many or most Christians error in understanding of the Earth as to age. There is no conflict between evolution and creation.

God first created the Earth, it was to be an abode for the Angels and a learn ground. Satan got the big head and dared to try to accend to heaven and take his throne. The Earth along with all creation went through a war and great destrution occured. As to the Earth, about 6000 years ago, God renewed the surface of the Earth and created man after their own image. The old manlike beings were not after their kind before the battle. Many creatures and plants were recreated after thier kind. The Earth is billions? million? years old. The time from Adam to now is a little less than 6000 years.

*Also read as Noah loaded animal two by two "after their kind" meaning he loaded them two by two according to their kind. Just as God recreated animals and plants (his choice as to which) after (occording to their kind.

There is no conflict of age.


There is a conflict.

Scientific Evidence says the earth is billions of years old. Round about reasoning with the ancient book says 6000.
Scientific Evidence says that we Evolved from a "lesser" species of humanoid ape. (We are apes, after all.) The Ancient book says God "poofed" us into existence from dirt, and took a rib to make a woman.

Those are HUGE conflicts.

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Sun 06/06/10 08:12 PM


Many or most Christians error in understanding of the Earth as to age. There is no conflict between evolution and creation.

God first created the Earth, it was to be an abode for the Angels and a learn ground. Satan got the big head and dared to try to accend to heaven and take his throne. The Earth along with all creation went through a war and great destrution occured. As to the Earth, about 6000 years ago, God renewed the surface of the Earth and created man after their own image. The old manlike beings were not after their kind before the battle. Many creatures and plants were recreated after thier kind. The Earth is billions? million? years old. The time from Adam to now is a little less than 6000 years.

*Also read as Noah loaded animal two by two "after their kind" meaning he loaded them two by two according to their kind. Just as God recreated animals and plants (his choice as to which) after (occording to their kind.

There is no conflict of age.


There is a conflict.

Scientific Evidence says the earth is billions of years old. Round about reasoning with the ancient book says 6000.
Scientific Evidence says that we Evolved from a "lesser" species of humanoid ape. (We are apes, after all.) The Ancient book says God "poofed" us into existence from dirt, and took a rib to make a woman.

Those are HUGE conflicts.


but still nevertheless, this is all just a theory

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Sun 06/06/10 08:15 PM


Many or most Christians error in understanding of the Earth as to age. There is no conflict between evolution and creation.

God first created the Earth, it was to be an abode for the Angels and a learn ground. Satan got the big head and dared to try to accend to heaven and take his throne. The Earth along with all creation went through a war and great destrution occured. As to the Earth, about 6000 years ago, God renewed the surface of the Earth and created man after their own image. The old manlike beings were not after their kind before the battle. Many creatures and plants were recreated after thier kind. The Earth is billions? million? years old. The time from Adam to now is a little less than 6000 years.

*Also read as Noah loaded animal two by two "after their kind" meaning he loaded them two by two according to their kind. Just as God recreated animals and plants (his choice as to which) after (occording to their kind.

There is no conflict of age.


There is a conflict.

Scientific Evidence says the earth is billions of years old. Round about reasoning with the ancient book says 6000.
Scientific Evidence says that we Evolved from a "lesser" species of humanoid ape. (We are apes, after all.) The Ancient book says God "poofed" us into existence from dirt, and took a rib to make a woman.

Those are HUGE conflicts.


Read my post above! animals and apes were evolving! But when God renewed the Earth surface.....man was then made from dirt after the God kind and not the animal kind before the destruction. The is no conflict. Please read my former post more closely. peace!

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Sun 06/06/10 08:20 PM
To those seeking.....all of this subject is not needed to obtain salvation. It is pointless!

But to those wishing to corrupt it.......they find great joy in it...by thier lack of understanding. And will not read for understanding since it does not support their disbelief.

Each to his own. I press not, but defend those less able, but of faith.

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Sun 06/06/10 08:22 PM
I must retire. Good night and good to all!

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Sun 06/06/10 08:22 PM

To those seeking.....all of this subject is not needed to obtain salvation. It is pointless!

But to those wishing to corrupt it.......they find great joy in it...by thier lack of understanding. And will not read for understanding since it does not support their disbelief.

Each to his own. I press not, but defend those less able, but of faith.


to obtain salvation you only have to accept Jesus christ as your lord and savior. And in the same manner as such you would then follow as he has told you to do.

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Sun 06/06/10 08:23 PM

I must retire. Good night and good to all!


good night m8.

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Sun 06/06/10 08:31 PM
Edited by Peter_Pan69 on Sun 06/06/10 08:35 PM
there is actually more proof of God then the age of the dinosaurs. What we call the bible today is a gathered book of scrolls that were written in the time Jesus was on this earth.


The Bible wasn't written until long after Jesus' supposed life came to an end. Those that wrote about him, never met him.



It is claimed that the New Testament was written 30-40 years after Jesus' death by those who were eyewitnesses.

Also keep in mind that there have been several "meetings" to decide what was put in the book, and what was left out. You aren't reading the truth, you are reading only what primitive people want you to read.


Don't forget about the translation from Aramaic and Greek. I have no doubt that there is a human influence on the translations if nothing else. That much is obvious by reading different versions.

As for the Old Testament, there is too much scientific proof that it has remained unchanged. The original scrolls had a type of error checking that confirmed whether or not they had been transcribed properly. Couple that with the discovery and scientific dating of the Dead Sea Scrolls and I think anyone would agree.

Inkracer's photo
Sun 06/06/10 08:39 PM



Many or most Christians error in understanding of the Earth as to age. There is no conflict between evolution and creation.

God first created the Earth, it was to be an abode for the Angels and a learn ground. Satan got the big head and dared to try to accend to heaven and take his throne. The Earth along with all creation went through a war and great destrution occured. As to the Earth, about 6000 years ago, God renewed the surface of the Earth and created man after their own image. The old manlike beings were not after their kind before the battle. Many creatures and plants were recreated after thier kind. The Earth is billions? million? years old. The time from Adam to now is a little less than 6000 years.

*Also read as Noah loaded animal two by two "after their kind" meaning he loaded them two by two according to their kind. Just as God recreated animals and plants (his choice as to which) after (occording to their kind.

There is no conflict of age.


There is a conflict.

Scientific Evidence says the earth is billions of years old. Round about reasoning with the ancient book says 6000.
Scientific Evidence says that we Evolved from a "lesser" species of humanoid ape. (We are apes, after all.) The Ancient book says God "poofed" us into existence from dirt, and took a rib to make a woman.

Those are HUGE conflicts.


but still nevertheless, this is all just a theory


Your argument needs a major revision, when you continue to be intellectually dishonest, in the face of evidence against your view.

Inkracer's photo
Sun 06/06/10 08:40 PM



there is actually more proof of God then the age of the dinosaurs. What we call the bible today is a gathered book of scrolls that were written in the time Jesus was on this earth.


The Bible wasn't written until long after Jesus' supposed life came to an end. Those that wrote about him, never met him.

Also keep in mind that there have been several "meetings" to decide what was put in the book, and what was left out. You aren't reading the truth, you are reading only what primitive people want you to read.


yes the BIBLE was not written until long after Jesus cause it took a while to gather ALL the different writtings from that time.

And what proof do you have of anyone leaving anything out? If none then that is Hearsay.


1. While the names of them escape me, there have been several meetings held by the church, where the only item on the agenda was what got to stay in the bible, and what was left out.

2. The proof of this is the bible itself. Where the books in the bible reference books that were kicked out of the bible.

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Sun 06/06/10 08:41 PM




Many or most Christians error in understanding of the Earth as to age. There is no conflict between evolution and creation.

God first created the Earth, it was to be an abode for the Angels and a learn ground. Satan got the big head and dared to try to accend to heaven and take his throne. The Earth along with all creation went through a war and great destrution occured. As to the Earth, about 6000 years ago, God renewed the surface of the Earth and created man after their own image. The old manlike beings were not after their kind before the battle. Many creatures and plants were recreated after thier kind. The Earth is billions? million? years old. The time from Adam to now is a little less than 6000 years.

*Also read as Noah loaded animal two by two "after their kind" meaning he loaded them two by two according to their kind. Just as God recreated animals and plants (his choice as to which) after (occording to their kind.

There is no conflict of age.


There is a conflict.

Scientific Evidence says the earth is billions of years old. Round about reasoning with the ancient book says 6000.
Scientific Evidence says that we Evolved from a "lesser" species of humanoid ape. (We are apes, after all.) The Ancient book says God "poofed" us into existence from dirt, and took a rib to make a woman.

Those are HUGE conflicts.


but still nevertheless, this is all just a theory


Your argument needs a major revision, when you continue to be intellectually dishonest, in the face of evidence against your view.


how is anything i have said intellectually dishonest? All i've stated is that it is a THEORY, theories are not fact.

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Sun 06/06/10 08:42 PM

To those seeking.....all of this subject is not needed to obtain salvation. It is pointless!

But to those wishing to corrupt it.......they find great joy in it...by thier lack of understanding. And will not read for understanding since it does not support their disbelief.

Each to his own. I press not, but defend those less able, but of faith.


Speak for yourself Oh Deluded One! I can say as well that you find great joy in spreading your propaganda and deluding children, and that by your lack of understanding of the intricate workings of the world you hence act on foolishness.

Maybe you don't see it, but your original post was just as insulting as mine here.

CowboyGH's photo
Sun 06/06/10 08:42 PM




there is actually more proof of God then the age of the dinosaurs. What we call the bible today is a gathered book of scrolls that were written in the time Jesus was on this earth.


The Bible wasn't written until long after Jesus' supposed life came to an end. Those that wrote about him, never met him.

Also keep in mind that there have been several "meetings" to decide what was put in the book, and what was left out. You aren't reading the truth, you are reading only what primitive people want you to read.


yes the BIBLE was not written until long after Jesus cause it took a while to gather ALL the different writtings from that time.

And what proof do you have of anyone leaving anything out? If none then that is Hearsay.


1. While the names of them escape me, there have been several meetings held by the church, where the only item on the agenda was what got to stay in the bible, and what was left out.

2. The proof of this is the bible itself. Where the books in the bible reference books that were kicked out of the bible.


still hearsay if no referance to this can be made.

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Sun 06/06/10 08:45 PM


Your argument needs a major revision, when you continue to be intellectually dishonest, in the face of evidence against your view.


how is anything i have said intellectually dishonest? All i've stated is that it is a THEORY, theories are not fact.


I have explained to you EXACTLY what a SCIENTIFIC Theory is. Yet you still run out the "only a theory" card. That is the height of the Creationist Intellectual Dishonesty.