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Topic: abortion funding is in healthcare bill
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Fri 10/30/09 06:15 PM
A national pro-life group is warning members of Congress that a vote in favor of the 1,990-page House healthcare bill is a vote to establish a federal government program that would directly fund abortion-on-demand with taxpayer dollars.



Page 110 of H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act, authorizes a new government health insurance program to pay for all elective abortions. Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right to Life Committee, explains.

"This is a federal agency, a federal program, [and] of course it's going to spend federal funds -- that's the only kind of funds it's got," he notes. "So all of these assurances that some prominent Democrats, including President Obama, have given that there won't be federal funding for abortions, that's not what's in the bill."

Johnson warns that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-California) wants to ram the bill through without representatives having a chance to vote on a single amendment. However, in order to use that "closed rule" procedure, a majority of House members have to agree to the move. The pro-life spokesman is urging members to vote "no" on a closed rule.

"We want to vote on an amendment that would take abortion out of this bill, which is the [Bart] Stupak amendment," Johnson clarifies, referring to the Michigan Democrat. "We believe if we could get a vote in the full House on that amendment, it would pass."

Congressman Stupak has vowed that if he does not get a vote on his amendment barring federal funding of abortion, he and 40 pro-life Democrats will block a full House vote on the healthcare bill.


Page 110
(B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUNDING IS ALLOWED- The services described in this subparagraph are abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is permitted, based on the law as in effect as of the date that is 6 months before the beginning of the plan year involved.


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=745436

no photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:22 PM
Disgusting! These poor defenseless human beings! :cry:

STOP INFANTICIDE
STOP OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS:angry:

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:23 PM
It is not true so don't be disgusted.

It just aint true.

no photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:25 PM
I'm disgusted with the whole abortion thing.

Is it not true because a conservative posted it?

TJN's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:26 PM

It is not true so don't be disgusted.

It just aint true.

Did you not read this!

Page 110
(B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUNDING IS ALLOWED- The services described in this subparagraph are abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is permitted, based on the law as in effect as of the date that is 6 months before the beginning of the plan year involved.

http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3962:

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:27 PM
:banana:I wont have to pay for this out of pocket anymore?:banana:

RhonLynn's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:27 PM
IT"S NONE OF YOUR/OUR Buisness what anyony single Person does with Her/Him life. Mind your OWN people!!!!rant

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:29 PM


It is not true so don't be disgusted.

It just aint true.

Did you not read this!

Page 110
(B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUNDING IS ALLOWED- The services described in this subparagraph are abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is permitted, based on the law as in effect as of the date that is 6 months before the beginning of the plan year involved.

http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3962:


That did not say it was a part of the bill to pay for abortions, you gotta do better than that.

Just because the word abortion is mentioned....lol

Some states pay for abortions with state funds, do you think they are mentioning it for that purpose?

TJN's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:29 PM

IT"S NONE OF YOUR/OUR Buisness what anyony single Person does with Her/Him life. Mind your OWN people!!!!rant

Your right it's not so if you want an abortion why should I have to pay for it?

willing2's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:29 PM

:banana:I wont have to pay for this out of pocket anymore?:banana:

I hear that!!:wink: :laughing:

no photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:31 PM
It is my damn business thank you. If I feel like trying to fight saving these tiny babies, then so be it. You cannot tell me what to do either. What's funny is some have no qualms killing an unborn baby yet want to save the life of a cold blooded murderer. Save the babies, kill the murderers. mad

110
1 (3) COVERAGE UNDER PUBLIC HEALTH INSUR2
ANCE OPTION.—The public health insurance option
3 shall provide coverage for services described in para4
graph (4)(B). Nothing in this Act shall be construed
5 as preventing the public health insurance option
6 from providing for or prohibiting coverage of serv7
ices described in paragraph (4)(A).
8 (4) ABORTION SERVICES.—
9 (A) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND10
ING IS PROHIBITED.—The services described in
11 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
12 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
13 the Department of Health and Human Services
14 is not permitted, based on the law as in effect
15 as of the date that is 6 months before the be16
ginning of the plan year involved.
17 (B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND18
ING IS ALLOWED.—The services described in
19 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
20 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
21 the Department of Health and Human Services
22 is permitted, based on the law as in effect as
23 of the date that is 6 months before the begin24
ning of the plan year involved.

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

RhonLynn's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:31 PM


IT"S NONE OF YOUR/OUR Buisness what anyony single Person does with Her/Him life. Mind your OWN people!!!!rant

Your right it's not so if you want an abortion why should I have to pay for it?

The SAME Reason I WOULD PAY FOR YOUR'S.....
Un Wanted Children end up Abused & in the Foster system which WE ALL PAY for as well!
Have a wonderful weekend I'm off to a Party!

TJN's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:31 PM



It is not true so don't be disgusted.

It just aint true.

Did you not read this!

Page 110
(B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUNDING IS ALLOWED- The services described in this subparagraph are abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is permitted, based on the law as in effect as of the date that is 6 months before the beginning of the plan year involved.

http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3962:


That did not say it was a part of the bill to pay for abortions, you gotta do better than that.

Just because the word abortion is mentioned....lol

Some states pay for abortions with state funds, do you think they are mentioning it for that purpose?


for which PUBLIC FUNDING IS ALLOWED
Did you read the whole post?
They want an ammendment to take that out of the bill.

no photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:32 PM



It is not true so don't be disgusted.

It just aint true.

Did you not read this!

Page 110
(B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUNDING IS ALLOWED- The services described in this subparagraph are abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is permitted, based on the law as in effect as of the date that is 6 months before the beginning of the plan year involved.

http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3962:


That did not say it was a part of the bill to pay for abortions, you gotta do better than that.

Just because the word abortion is mentioned....lol

Some states pay for abortions with state funds, do you think they are mentioning it for that purpose?



Well it being in there leave the door wide open! Who is to say they won't do it? If it's written in there then they plan on using it. laugh you're funny

Thomas3474's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:33 PM
Edited by Thomas3474 on Fri 10/30/09 06:34 PM

IT"S NONE OF YOUR/OUR Buisness what anyony single Person does with Her/Him life. Mind your OWN people!!!!rant



It is my business when they are using my tax dollars to pay for it.There is alot of things I don't want my tax dollars to go to and abortion on demand is not one of them.

no photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:33 PM



IT"S NONE OF YOUR/OUR Buisness what anyony single Person does with Her/Him life. Mind your OWN people!!!!rant

Your right it's not so if you want an abortion why should I have to pay for it?

The SAME Reason I WOULD PAY FOR YOUR'S.....
Un Wanted Children end up Abused & in the Foster system which WE ALL PAY for as well!
Have a wonderful weekend I'm off to a Party!



Enjoy your party, don't get pregnant.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:33 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Fri 10/30/09 06:36 PM

It is my damn business thank you. If I feel like trying to fight saving these tiny babies, then so be it. You cannot tell me what to do either. What's funny is some have no qualms killing an unborn baby yet want to save the life of a cold blooded murderer. Save the babies, kill the murderers. mad

110
1 (3) COVERAGE UNDER PUBLIC HEALTH INSUR2
ANCE OPTION.—The public health insurance option
3 shall provide coverage for services described in para4
graph (4)(B). Nothing in this Act shall be construed
5 as preventing the public health insurance option
6 from providing for or prohibiting coverage of serv7
ices described in paragraph (4)(A).
8 (4) ABORTION SERVICES.—
9 (A) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND10
ING IS PROHIBITED.—The services described in
11 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
12 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
13 the Department of Health and Human Services
14 is not permitted, based on the law as in effect
15 as of the date that is 6 months before the be16
ginning of the plan year involved.
17 (B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND18
ING IS ALLOWED.—The services described in
19 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
20 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
21 the Department of Health and Human Services
22 is permitted, based on the law as in effect as
23 of the date that is 6 months before the begin24
ning of the plan year involved.

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf


Do you remember the bill Obama signed allowing in certain extreme conditions abortions that could be partially funded by the government back at the beginning of the year?

Well that is what this is talking about. The laws already on the books.

THE BILL DOES NOT AUTHORIZE PAY FOR ABORTIONS.


GET IT RIGHT OR GET OFF IT.

TJN's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:33 PM



IT"S NONE OF YOUR/OUR Buisness what anyony single Person does with Her/Him life. Mind your OWN people!!!!rant

Your right it's not so if you want an abortion why should I have to pay for it?

The SAME Reason I WOULD PAY FOR YOUR'S.....
Un Wanted Children end up Abused & in the Foster system which WE ALL PAY for as well!
Have a wonderful weekend I'm off to a Party!


I don't want anyone paying anything for me! I do just fine on my own thank you!

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:34 PM




It is not true so don't be disgusted.

It just aint true.

Did you not read this!

Page 110
(B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUNDING IS ALLOWED- The services described in this subparagraph are abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is permitted, based on the law as in effect as of the date that is 6 months before the beginning of the plan year involved.

http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3962:


That did not say it was a part of the bill to pay for abortions, you gotta do better than that.

Just because the word abortion is mentioned....lol

Some states pay for abortions with state funds, do you think they are mentioning it for that purpose?


for which PUBLIC FUNDING IS ALLOWED
Did you read the whole post?
They want an ammendment to take that out of the bill.



READ MY ANSWER ABOVE.

no photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:35 PM


It is my damn business thank you. If I feel like trying to fight saving these tiny babies, then so be it. You cannot tell me what to do either. What's funny is some have no qualms killing an unborn baby yet want to save the life of a cold blooded murderer. Save the babies, kill the murderers. mad

110
1 (3) COVERAGE UNDER PUBLIC HEALTH INSUR2
ANCE OPTION.—The public health insurance option
3 shall provide coverage for services described in para4
graph (4)(B). Nothing in this Act shall be construed
5 as preventing the public health insurance option
6 from providing for or prohibiting coverage of serv7
ices described in paragraph (4)(A).
8 (4) ABORTION SERVICES.—
9 (A) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND10
ING IS PROHIBITED.—The services described in
11 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
12 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
13 the Department of Health and Human Services
14 is not permitted, based on the law as in effect
15 as of the date that is 6 months before the be16
ginning of the plan year involved.
17 (B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND18
ING IS ALLOWED.—The services described in
19 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
20 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
21 the Department of Health and Human Services
22 is permitted, based on the law as in effect as
23 of the date that is 6 months before the begin24
ning of the plan year involved.

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf


Do you remember the bill Obama signed allowing in certain extreme conditions abortions that could be partially funded by the government back at the beginning of the year?

Well that is what this is talking about. The laws already on the books.

THE BILL DOES AUTHORIZE PAY FOR ABORTIONS.


GET IT RIGHT OR GET OFF IT.


It's still disgusting, that's my view, you get off if you don't like it.

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