Topic: abortion funding is in healthcare bill
Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:35 PM


IT"S NONE OF YOUR/OUR Buisness what anyony single Person does with Her/Him life. Mind your OWN people!!!!rant



It is my business when they are using my tax dollars to pay for it.There is alot of things I don't want my tax dollars to go to and abortion on demand is not one of them.


Stop paying your taxes if you don't like what the gov uses them for. It will make your and our life better.

no photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:38 PM
Haha way ta go TJ!! I think you win the prize for the most heated responses in such a short time.

You win!:banana: :banana: laugh

TJN's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:42 PM


It is my damn business thank you. If I feel like trying to fight saving these tiny babies, then so be it. You cannot tell me what to do either. What's funny is some have no qualms killing an unborn baby yet want to save the life of a cold blooded murderer. Save the babies, kill the murderers. mad

110
1 (3) COVERAGE UNDER PUBLIC HEALTH INSUR2
ANCE OPTION.—The public health insurance option
3 shall provide coverage for services described in para4
graph (4)(B). Nothing in this Act shall be construed
5 as preventing the public health insurance option
6 from providing for or prohibiting coverage of serv7
ices described in paragraph (4)(A).
8 (4) ABORTION SERVICES.—
9 (A) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND10
ING IS PROHIBITED.—The services described in
11 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
12 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
13 the Department of Health and Human Services
14 is not permitted, based on the law as in effect
15 as of the date that is 6 months before the be16
ginning of the plan year involved.
17 (B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND18
ING IS ALLOWED.—The services described in
19 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
20 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
21 the Department of Health and Human Services
22 is permitted, based on the law as in effect as
23 of the date that is 6 months before the begin24
ning of the plan year involved.

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf


Do you remember the bill Obama signed allowing in certain extreme conditions abortions that could be partially funded by the government back at the beginning of the year?

Well that is what this is talking about. The laws already on the books.

THE BILL DOES NOT AUTHORIZE PAY FOR ABORTIONS.


GET IT RIGHT OR GET OFF IT.

Then why are you getting so upity over it.
It should be completely taken out!
They are trying to reform our entire health system and it is wrighten right there in black and white in the house version of the bill.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:42 PM



It is my damn business thank you. If I feel like trying to fight saving these tiny babies, then so be it. You cannot tell me what to do either. What's funny is some have no qualms killing an unborn baby yet want to save the life of a cold blooded murderer. Save the babies, kill the murderers. mad

110
1 (3) COVERAGE UNDER PUBLIC HEALTH INSUR2
ANCE OPTION.—The public health insurance option
3 shall provide coverage for services described in para4
graph (4)(B). Nothing in this Act shall be construed
5 as preventing the public health insurance option
6 from providing for or prohibiting coverage of serv7
ices described in paragraph (4)(A).
8 (4) ABORTION SERVICES.—
9 (A) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND10
ING IS PROHIBITED.—The services described in
11 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
12 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
13 the Department of Health and Human Services
14 is not permitted, based on the law as in effect
15 as of the date that is 6 months before the be16
ginning of the plan year involved.
17 (B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND18
ING IS ALLOWED.—The services described in
19 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
20 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
21 the Department of Health and Human Services
22 is permitted, based on the law as in effect as
23 of the date that is 6 months before the begin24
ning of the plan year involved.

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf


Do you remember the bill Obama signed allowing in certain extreme conditions abortions that could be partially funded by the government back at the beginning of the year?

Well that is what this is talking about. The laws already on the books.

THE BILL DOES AUTHORIZE PAY FOR ABORTIONS.


GET IT RIGHT OR GET OFF IT.


It's still disgusting, that's my view, you get off if you don't like it.


Sorry that was rude. I get so tired of correcting the misinformation out there that people don't even bother to research.

Abortion will not be covered by the federal government ever again, you can bank on it. The bill Obama signed about extreme circumstances was about as far as that will ever go and I believe that will be over turned anyway.

This is not a concern to worry about.

If you want to worry about something with the bill we need to look at the cuts to Medicare. We need to watch those penalties to those who don't get the insurance even though they say they will only be for those who can afford it. Etc...

This is just a propaganda tool to make people fight against the healthcare bill instead of working within it. Probably started by the right wing healthcare organizations.

Thomas3474's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:43 PM



IT"S NONE OF YOUR/OUR Buisness what anyony single Person does with Her/Him life. Mind your OWN people!!!!rant



It is my business when they are using my tax dollars to pay for it.There is alot of things I don't want my tax dollars to go to and abortion on demand is not one of them.


Stop paying your taxes if you don't like what the gov uses them for. It will make your and our life better.



Nice try but that is not the way it works.The people vote on what they want their tax money to go to.We should be able to vote on every dime the government spends.I vote.I don't move to another country because the government works for me not the other way around.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:43 PM



It is my damn business thank you. If I feel like trying to fight saving these tiny babies, then so be it. You cannot tell me what to do either. What's funny is some have no qualms killing an unborn baby yet want to save the life of a cold blooded murderer. Save the babies, kill the murderers. mad

110
1 (3) COVERAGE UNDER PUBLIC HEALTH INSUR2
ANCE OPTION.—The public health insurance option
3 shall provide coverage for services described in para4
graph (4)(B). Nothing in this Act shall be construed
5 as preventing the public health insurance option
6 from providing for or prohibiting coverage of serv7
ices described in paragraph (4)(A).
8 (4) ABORTION SERVICES.—
9 (A) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND10
ING IS PROHIBITED.—The services described in
11 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
12 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
13 the Department of Health and Human Services
14 is not permitted, based on the law as in effect
15 as of the date that is 6 months before the be16
ginning of the plan year involved.
17 (B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND18
ING IS ALLOWED.—The services described in
19 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
20 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
21 the Department of Health and Human Services
22 is permitted, based on the law as in effect as
23 of the date that is 6 months before the begin24
ning of the plan year involved.

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf


Do you remember the bill Obama signed allowing in certain extreme conditions abortions that could be partially funded by the government back at the beginning of the year?

Well that is what this is talking about. The laws already on the books.

THE BILL DOES NOT AUTHORIZE PAY FOR ABORTIONS.


GET IT RIGHT OR GET OFF IT.

Then why are you getting so upity over it.
It should be completely taken out!
They are trying to reform our entire health system and it is wrighten right there in black and white in the house version of the bill.



They have to mention the already existing laws so there will be no change to them.

TJN's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:45 PM




It is my damn business thank you. If I feel like trying to fight saving these tiny babies, then so be it. You cannot tell me what to do either. What's funny is some have no qualms killing an unborn baby yet want to save the life of a cold blooded murderer. Save the babies, kill the murderers. mad

110
1 (3) COVERAGE UNDER PUBLIC HEALTH INSUR2
ANCE OPTION.—The public health insurance option
3 shall provide coverage for services described in para4
graph (4)(B). Nothing in this Act shall be construed
5 as preventing the public health insurance option
6 from providing for or prohibiting coverage of serv7
ices described in paragraph (4)(A).
8 (4) ABORTION SERVICES.—
9 (A) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND10
ING IS PROHIBITED.—The services described in
11 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
12 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
13 the Department of Health and Human Services
14 is not permitted, based on the law as in effect
15 as of the date that is 6 months before the be16
ginning of the plan year involved.
17 (B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND18
ING IS ALLOWED.—The services described in
19 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
20 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
21 the Department of Health and Human Services
22 is permitted, based on the law as in effect as
23 of the date that is 6 months before the begin24
ning of the plan year involved.

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf


Do you remember the bill Obama signed allowing in certain extreme conditions abortions that could be partially funded by the government back at the beginning of the year?

Well that is what this is talking about. The laws already on the books.

THE BILL DOES NOT AUTHORIZE PAY FOR ABORTIONS.


GET IT RIGHT OR GET OFF IT.

Then why are you getting so upity over it.
It should be completely taken out!
They are trying to reform our entire health system and it is wrighten right there in black and white in the house version of the bill.



They have to mention the already existing laws so there will be no change to them.

No they mention protions that will be changed

no photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:45 PM
Edited by peladac on Fri 10/30/09 06:46 PM
Never say never. If it's in there I don't trust them. I don't trust a politician as far as I could throw them. Somehow, somewhere, sometime someone will misconstrue what is written, hell they misconstrue the Constitution all the time.

Sorry too dragoness

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:47 PM




IT"S NONE OF YOUR/OUR Buisness what anyony single Person does with Her/Him life. Mind your OWN people!!!!rant



It is my business when they are using my tax dollars to pay for it.There is alot of things I don't want my tax dollars to go to and abortion on demand is not one of them.


Stop paying your taxes if you don't like what the gov uses them for. It will make your and our life better.



Nice try but that is not the way it works.The people vote on what they want their tax money to go to.We should be able to vote on every dime the government spends.I vote.I don't move to another country because the government works for me not the other way around.


Nobody will ever get their taxes only paying for what they think they should be used for in a diverse country like this. So the only way to make sure none of your tax dollars get used for stuff you don't want is to not pay them.

Bitchin about it doesn't do anything good for you or those who have to listen to it.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:48 PM





It is my damn business thank you. If I feel like trying to fight saving these tiny babies, then so be it. You cannot tell me what to do either. What's funny is some have no qualms killing an unborn baby yet want to save the life of a cold blooded murderer. Save the babies, kill the murderers. mad

110
1 (3) COVERAGE UNDER PUBLIC HEALTH INSUR2
ANCE OPTION.—The public health insurance option
3 shall provide coverage for services described in para4
graph (4)(B). Nothing in this Act shall be construed
5 as preventing the public health insurance option
6 from providing for or prohibiting coverage of serv7
ices described in paragraph (4)(A).
8 (4) ABORTION SERVICES.—
9 (A) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND10
ING IS PROHIBITED.—The services described in
11 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
12 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
13 the Department of Health and Human Services
14 is not permitted, based on the law as in effect
15 as of the date that is 6 months before the be16
ginning of the plan year involved.
17 (B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND18
ING IS ALLOWED.—The services described in
19 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
20 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
21 the Department of Health and Human Services
22 is permitted, based on the law as in effect as
23 of the date that is 6 months before the begin24
ning of the plan year involved.

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf


Do you remember the bill Obama signed allowing in certain extreme conditions abortions that could be partially funded by the government back at the beginning of the year?

Well that is what this is talking about. The laws already on the books.

THE BILL DOES NOT AUTHORIZE PAY FOR ABORTIONS.


GET IT RIGHT OR GET OFF IT.

Then why are you getting so upity over it.
It should be completely taken out!
They are trying to reform our entire health system and it is wrighten right there in black and white in the house version of the bill.



They have to mention the already existing laws so there will be no change to them.

No they mention protions that will be changed


No, they have to keep what will not change written so it will not change with the bill.

no photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:49 PM
Some of us just aren't griping, some like myself are very proactive contacting my politicians in my state.:thumbsup:

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:50 PM

Some of us just aren't griping, some like myself are very proactive contacting my politicians in my state.:thumbsup:


Me too:thumbsup:

Pres is probably tired of hearing from me already...lol

TJN's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:56 PM
Abortion will not be covered by the federal government ever again, you can bank on it. The bill Obama signed about extreme circumstances was about as far as that will ever go and I believe that will be over turned anyway.

This is not a concern to worry about.

If you want to worry about something with the bill we need to look at the cuts to Medicare. We need to watch those penalties to those who don't get the insurance even though they say they will only be for those who can afford it. Etc...

This is just a propaganda tool to make people fight against the healthcare bill instead of working within it. Probably started by the right wing healthcare organizations.


Read the post!!!!!!
It's not about fighting against the whole bill!!!!!
They want an ammendment added taking abortion out of it!!!!!

no photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:57 PM


Some of us just aren't griping, some like myself are very proactive contacting my politicians in my state.:thumbsup:


Me too:thumbsup:

Pres is probably tired of hearing from me already...lol


I'm sure they know our names all to well!laugh

Thomas3474's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:59 PM





IT"S NONE OF YOUR/OUR Buisness what anyony single Person does with Her/Him life. Mind your OWN people!!!!rant



It is my business when they are using my tax dollars to pay for it.There is alot of things I don't want my tax dollars to go to and abortion on demand is not one of them.


Stop paying your taxes if you don't like what the gov uses them for. It will make your and our life better.



Nice try but that is not the way it works.The people vote on what they want their tax money to go to.We should be able to vote on every dime the government spends.I vote.I don't move to another country because the government works for me not the other way around.


Nobody will ever get their taxes only paying for what they think they should be used for in a diverse country like this. So the only way to make sure none of your tax dollars get used for stuff you don't want is to not pay them.

Bitchin about it doesn't do anything good for you or those who have to listen to it.




Huh???You ever vote?I can think of some things in the last year or so concerning my tax dollars...license plate increases,increase for funding for fire and police services,sales tax increases for public school remodeling,3 cents a gallon gasoline tax for new highways,etc...This is not monopoly money here.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/30/09 07:00 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Fri 10/30/09 07:04 PM

Abortion will not be covered by the federal government ever again, you can bank on it. The bill Obama signed about extreme circumstances was about as far as that will ever go and I believe that will be over turned anyway.

This is not a concern to worry about.

If you want to worry about something with the bill we need to look at the cuts to Medicare. We need to watch those penalties to those who don't get the insurance even though they say they will only be for those who can afford it. Etc...

This is just a propaganda tool to make people fight against the healthcare bill instead of working within it. Probably started by the right wing healthcare organizations.


Read the post!!!!!!
It's not about fighting against the whole bill!!!!!
They want an ammendment added taking abortion out of it!!!!!


They cannot take the word abortion nor the fact that abortions are done out of the bill because abortions exist and are done by medical facilities. It has to be part of the bill because it is already law.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/30/09 07:01 PM



Some of us just aren't griping, some like myself are very proactive contacting my politicians in my state.:thumbsup:


Me too:thumbsup:

Pres is probably tired of hearing from me already...lol


I'm sure they know our names all to well!laugh


Mine for sure...lol

A couple of my letters were not so nicesurprised scared

Thomas3474's photo
Fri 10/30/09 07:03 PM

Some of us just aren't griping, some like myself are very proactive contacting my politicians in my state.:thumbsup:



Me too and once in a while you actually get a Senator on the phone.But it's like talking to a robot all they say is...yeah,uh huh,yep,yeah.Then I'm like "your a idiot",and they are ok,yeah,ok.

I wouldn't loose any sleep over this health care bill.Last time I heard every Republican was against it and 4 Democrats.It wouldn't pass even if every Democrat voted for it and they don't have enough for a fillabuster.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/30/09 07:03 PM






IT"S NONE OF YOUR/OUR Buisness what anyony single Person does with Her/Him life. Mind your OWN people!!!!rant



It is my business when they are using my tax dollars to pay for it.There is alot of things I don't want my tax dollars to go to and abortion on demand is not one of them.


Stop paying your taxes if you don't like what the gov uses them for. It will make your and our life better.



Nice try but that is not the way it works.The people vote on what they want their tax money to go to.We should be able to vote on every dime the government spends.I vote.I don't move to another country because the government works for me not the other way around.


Nobody will ever get their taxes only paying for what they think they should be used for in a diverse country like this. So the only way to make sure none of your tax dollars get used for stuff you don't want is to not pay them.

Bitchin about it doesn't do anything good for you or those who have to listen to it.




Huh???You ever vote?I can think of some things in the last year or so concerning my tax dollars...license plate increases,increase for funding for fire and police services,sales tax increases for public school remodeling,3 cents a gallon gasoline tax for new highways,etc...This is not monopoly money here.


I vote faithfully but I don't ***** about my taxes. I am glad my tax dollars help people and will continue to be glad of it. So what if some of them go to things I am not sure about. It is still a good thing that I pay for.

TJN's photo
Fri 10/30/09 07:03 PM


Abortion will not be covered by the federal government ever again, you can bank on it. The bill Obama signed about extreme circumstances was about as far as that will ever go and I believe that will be over turned anyway.

This is not a concern to worry about.

If you want to worry about something with the bill we need to look at the cuts to Medicare. We need to watch those penalties to those who don't get the insurance even though they say they will only be for those who can afford it. Etc...

This is just a propaganda tool to make people fight against the healthcare bill instead of working within it. Probably started by the right wing healthcare organizations.


Read the post!!!!!!
It's not about fighting against the whole bill!!!!!
They want an ammendment added taking abortion out of it!!!!!


They cannot take the word abortion nor the fact that abortions are done out of the bil because abortions exist and are done by medical facilities. It has to be part of the bill because it is already law.

I worded it wrong take out fed funding for abortions