Topic: Let's fine the deadbeats who don't have Health Insurance | |
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I'd like to see how many Politicians would cut their own throats by passing a Law that would lead to fines against anyone who doesn't have health insurance.
Or, do you believe Americans are so complacent they would just accept it as just another buden and pay the fines? |
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I think americans are flexible enough. We oblige mandatory seat belt laws, mandatory vehicle insurance. I think ,after the hoopla died down, we would be fine with mandatory health insurance. After all ,we each have but one body , many of us have more than one car though. Its worth it.
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I'd like to see how many Politicians would cut their own throats by passing a Law that would lead to fines against anyone who doesn't have health insurance. Or, do you believe Americans are so complacent they would just accept it as just another buden and pay the fines? Actually, seeing as that would likely destroy the wealth of millions of people and cause a violent bi-partisan uprising against the government, that might be a good idea-just the wake-up call the sheeple need. |
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I really don't know how the fines are based but, do you think those who make more should pay more?
For some, if the fine was $2,000.00 a year, they'd pay less for the fine than the cost of the insurance. |
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I don't care, because I have full benefits: PPO medical, dental, vision, life insurance, disability...oh ...and 401K.
I do have the above things, but I wonder why America's health system doesn't work like Canada? |
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I really don't know how the fines are based but, do you think those who make more should pay more? For some, if the fine was $2,000.00 a year, they'd pay less for the fine than the cost of the insurance. ooohhh, you're not joking. :( I could never justify passing such a law. 1) it's unconstitutional 2) it violates the individual's right to be without insurance if he desires. (therefore immoral and unethical) |
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I don't care, because I have full benefits: PPO medical, dental, vision, life insurance, disability...oh ...and 401K. I do have the above things, but I wonder why America's health system doesn't work like Canada? That's great for you. What would you do if you lost your job and was no longer covered? |
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I really don't know how the fines are based but, do you think those who make more should pay more? For some, if the fine was $2,000.00 a year, they'd pay less for the fine than the cost of the insurance. ooohhh, you're not joking. :( I could never justify passing such a law. 1) it's unconstitutional 2) it violates the individual's right to be without insurance if he desires. (therefore immoral and unethical) Other than Ron Paul, name me Politicians who are moral or ethical. |
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Frankly, I wonder what the point would be? I think that if people could afford it, they'd already have health insurance. How are you going to penalize those who can't afford it by charging them a fine on top of it? How are they supposed to pay? Because, let's be honest here, I have my doubts as to whether the government's definition of affordable is the same as my own. They live in a rarified world where everything is provided for them. Most politicians don't have a clue what it takes to survive on minimum wage or slightly more.
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Frankly, I wonder what the point would be? I think that if people could afford it, they'd already have health insurance. How are you going to penalize those who can't afford it by charging them a fine on top of it? How are they supposed to pay? Because, let's be honest here, I have my doubts as to whether the government's definition of affordable is the same as my own. They live in a rarified world where everything is provided for them. Most politicians don't have a clue what it takes to survive on minimum wage or slightly more. The way a lot of fines are imposed is, if you don't pay, your Drivers license gets revoked. The next step would be incarceration. I draw from, and please, correct me if I'm wrong. A living wage, the economy base, and middle class income is about $50,000.00 a year. That may be where they get the figure for how much a fine should be. |
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I don't know what the figures are or where they get them from. But, at least if they're going to have a fine, base it on income, a sliding scale of some sort. There are many, many people in this country who make far less than the established middle class figure of $50,000.
Frankly, I just don't think it's right. If they want to force people into insurance, then they should pay for it. Which again begs the question, who pays and how? While I am not against universale affordable healthcare for all, I do believe the government is going about it way too fast, with not nearly enough thought and they are being very short-sighted. Just shoving something through so you can say you did it isn't the answer. |
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I really don't know how the fines are based but, do you think those who make more should pay more? For some, if the fine was $2,000.00 a year, they'd pay less for the fine than the cost of the insurance. ooohhh, you're not joking. :( I could never justify passing such a law. 1) it's unconstitutional 2) it violates the individual's right to be without insurance if he desires. (therefore immoral and unethical) Other than Ron Paul, name me Politicians who are moral or ethical. I can't-that's one reason why I'm an anarcho-libertarian. (Peter Schiff is, but he hasn't won the election yet, so I can't count him) |
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censorship again !
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I think americans are flexible enough. We oblige mandatory seat belt laws, mandatory vehicle insurance. I think ,after the hoopla died down, we would be fine with mandatory health insurance. After all ,we each have but one body , many of us have more than one car though. Its worth it. I don't think you know the cost .. 13% to start and that's what you pay if you don't use one then at least 20% of the billed amounts . I don't think doctors are worth that much . no where near that much . what we need is doctors we can afford without the government . do the math and you'll see its not cheap or even reasonable . there going to have to raise welfare payments for the poor if this goes . this reminds me the liberals in the 60S they had a saying about health care then ( they are going to make our lives better if they have too kill us . |
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I think americans are flexible enough. We oblige mandatory seat belt laws, mandatory vehicle insurance. I think ,after the hoopla died down, we would be fine with mandatory health insurance. After all ,we each have but one body , many of us have more than one car though. Its worth it. I don't think you know the cost .. 13% to start and that's what you pay if you don't use one then at least 20% of the billed amounts . I don't think doctors are worth that much . no where near that much . what we need is doctors we can afford without the government . do the math and you'll see its not cheap or even reasonable . there going to have to raise welfare payments for the poor if this goes . this reminds me the liberals in the 60S they had a saying about health care then ( they are going to make our lives better if they have too kill us . lol!! That's been my experience with the bleeding heart libs too. They're very generous to people unless THEY have to pay the bill...then they're suddenly scared of the cost! ![]() ![]() |
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boo2u
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Tue 09/22/09 09:22 PM
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I think americans are flexible enough. We oblige mandatory seat belt laws, mandatory vehicle insurance. I think ,after the hoopla died down, we would be fine with mandatory health insurance. After all ,we each have but one body , many of us have more than one car though. Its worth it. I don't think you know the cost .. 13% to start and that's what you pay if you don't use one then at least 20% of the billed amounts . I don't think doctors are worth that much . no where near that much . what we need is doctors we can afford without the government . do the math and you'll see its not cheap or even reasonable . there going to have to raise welfare payments for the poor if this goes . this reminds me the liberals in the 60S they had a saying about health care then ( they are going to make our lives better if they have too kill us . lol!! That's been my experience with the bleeding heart libs too. They're very generous to people unless THEY have to pay the bill...then they're suddenly scared of the cost! ![]() ![]() Some Folks should wear a little sign saying their not a bleeding heart liberal. So that when tragedy strikes, we know who to step over to get to the person that needs and wants the help. Funny thing is that often the people that wouldn't do anything for anybody are the biggest screamers when their doing the suffering. |
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I think americans are flexible enough. We oblige mandatory seat belt laws, mandatory vehicle insurance. I think ,after the hoopla died down, we would be fine with mandatory health insurance. After all ,we each have but one body , many of us have more than one car though. Its worth it. I don't think you know the cost .. 13% to start and that's what you pay if you don't use one then at least 20% of the billed amounts . I don't think doctors are worth that much . no where near that much . what we need is doctors we can afford without the government . do the math and you'll see its not cheap or even reasonable . there going to have to raise welfare payments for the poor if this goes . this reminds me the liberals in the 60S they had a saying about health care then ( they are going to make our lives better if they have too kill us . lol!! That's been my experience with the bleeding heart libs too. They're very generous to people unless THEY have to pay the bill...then they're suddenly scared of the cost! ![]() ![]() Some Folks should wear a little sign saying their not a bleeding heart liberal. So that when tragedy strikes, we know who to step over to get to the person that needs and wants the help. Funny thing is that often the people that wouldn't do anything for anybody are the biggest screamers when their doing the suffering. wow thats more truth than most peoples brains can handel . |
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I'd like to see how many Politicians would cut their own throats by passing a Law that would lead to fines against anyone who doesn't have health insurance. Or, do you believe Americans are so complacent they would just accept it as just another buden and pay the fines? Massachusetts did it and people did not freak out. In April 2006, Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney signed into law a broad new program requiring all citizens to obtain health insurance. The Massachusetts House and Senate both strongly approved this ground-breaking legislation on a bipartisan basis. The program's aim is to cover 95% of the state's 500,000 uninsured within three years. So does this mean Mitt Romney is a socialist, communist, fascist, racist dictator? ![]() |
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I'd like to see how many Politicians would cut their own throats by passing a Law that would lead to fines against anyone who doesn't have health insurance. Or, do you believe Americans are so complacent they would just accept it as just another buden and pay the fines? Massachusetts did it and people did not freak out. In April 2006, Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney signed into law a broad new program requiring all citizens to obtain health insurance. The Massachusetts House and Senate both strongly approved this ground-breaking legislation on a bipartisan basis. The program's aim is to cover 95% of the state's 500,000 uninsured within three years. So does this mean Mitt Romney is a socialist, communist, fascist, racist dictator? ![]() I know, right? While I don't know much about it, I haven't heard of any widespread protests or anything and from what I know (which isn't much), it seems to be working out ok. I think, again, is finding a way to make it affordable for everyone. I'm not sure how anyone can be against affordable health care for everyone. I can understand being against how it's paid for or how the program itself is run, but why would anyone want to not insure everyone? Having a healthier population makes for a healthier society. |
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So, what say, we push Gov. to pass that law fining folks who do n't have Health Insurance.
I'd tell 'em, lower the income level to $50,000 a year. That would pay for anyone, under the poverty level, who couldn't afford insurance. |
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