Topic: Pathological liars and compulsive liars
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Sat 08/29/09 01:12 PM
I've also noticed that justification walks hand & hand with a liar...not a good thing.

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Sat 08/29/09 01:12 PM
I dont know about you, but I just love them, much like I love men who cheat, like in mirrors thread. smitten


OOh! love love love love love.




rofl

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Sat 08/29/09 01:14 PM

I dont know about you, but I just love them, much like I love men who cheat, like in mirrors thread. smitten


OOh! love love love love love.




rofl

laugh laugh laugh laugh




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Sat 08/29/09 01:16 PM

I've also noticed that justification walks hand & hand with a liar...not a good thing.



If a person cannot justify the action/lie that would force them to really do some introspection. The compulsive liar is incapable of introspection.

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Sat 08/29/09 01:17 PM
Earthy. Your just so....







Earthy!!!!:heart:

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Sat 08/29/09 01:17 PM

I've also noticed that justification walks hand & hand with a liar...not a good thing.


I was thinking the same thing... laugh laugh

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Sat 08/29/09 01:18 PM

Earthy. Your just so....







Earthy!!!!:heart:


ha ha.

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Sat 08/29/09 03:57 PM
Edited by Dancere on Sat 08/29/09 03:59 PM

Did you all know they are different?

Pathological liar - A pathological liar is usually defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. Pathological lying is often viewed as coping mechanism developed in early childhood and it is often associated with some other type of mental health disorder. A pathological liar is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused - it is done to get one's way). Pathological liars have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. A pathological liar often comes across as being manipulative, cunning and self-centered.

Compulsive liar - A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (see, Pathological Liar), rather they simply lie out of habit - an automatic response which is hard to break and one that takes its toll on a relationship.

I've read there are good and bad ways to cope with liars. How do you cope with liars?



Some excellent comments here!

Think I must keep meeting the combination plate:

The classic Pathological liar meets/marries Compulsive liar :

Lying is all they have ever known, it is their loyal companion and first language!

The moment the lie leaves their lips, their hyperbolic sense of delusion and vast superiority (Read: low self esteem in costume!)convinces their entire being that it was/is the gospel truth.

Then the preachin' sermon from their pulpit on high begins, convicting and disavowing all non~believers, denouncing all those that do not clean their plate and fully swallow!

As Phuque said, it walks w/ justification ...

AND ...

That simultaneously waves a flag of "world's biggest victim incurable" ...

Dangerous and draining, I will not abide them ... nor their dark shadow cast upon my life!!!

... It is a criminality in my view ...

Just say no! ... FINAL ANSWER ...






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Sat 08/29/09 03:59 PM
I don't cope with liars. I don't put up with it. If you can't speak the truth, then you aren't a part of my life.

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Sat 08/29/09 04:14 PM
I like the movie Liar Liar

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Sat 08/29/09 04:14 PM
Edited by Dancere on Sat 08/29/09 04:53 PM


Did you all know they are different?

Pathological liar - A pathological liar is usually defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. Pathological lying is often viewed as coping mechanism developed in early childhood and it is often associated with some other type of mental health disorder. A pathological liar is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused - it is done to get one's way). Pathological liars have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. A pathological liar often comes across as being manipulative, cunning and self-centered.

Compulsive liar - A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (see, Pathological Liar), rather they simply lie out of habit - an automatic response which is hard to break and one that takes its toll on a relationship.

I've read there are good and bad ways to cope with liars. How do you cope with liars?



Some excellent comments here!

Think I must keep meeting the combination plate:

The classic Pathological liar meets/marries Compulsive liar :

Lying is all they have ever known, it is their loyal companion and first language!

The moment the lie leaves their lips, their hyperbolic sense of delusion and vast superiority (Read: low self esteem in costume!)convinces their entire being that it was/is the gospel truth.

Then the preachin' sermon from their pulpit on high begins, convicting and disavowing all non~believers, denouncing all those that do not clean their plate and fully swallow!

As Phuque said, it walks w/ justification ...

AND ...

That simultaneously waves a flag of "world's biggest victim incurable" ...

Dangerous and draining, I will not abide them ... nor their dark shadow cast upon my life!!!

... It is a criminality in my view ...

Just say no! ... FINAL ANSWER ...



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In addition:

... I must also recall that these pathologies are ALWAYS accompanied by a grotesque sense of unaccountability and entitlement??? ...

... Much less disassociation from the fact that their victims are even human, more characters on their egocentric stage of life ...

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Sat 08/29/09 05:30 PM
I DON"T deal with them...
I just cut them off @ the knees...

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Sat 08/29/09 05:32 PM
Oohh that must hurt!!

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Sat 08/29/09 10:19 PM

Did you all know they are different?

Pathological liar - A pathological liar is usually defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. Pathological lying is often viewed as coping mechanism developed in early childhood and it is often associated with some other type of mental health disorder. A pathological liar is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused - it is done to get one's way). Pathological liars have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. A pathological liar often comes across as being manipulative, cunning and self-centered.

Compulsive liar - A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (see, Pathological Liar), rather they simply lie out of habit - an automatic response which is hard to break and one that takes its toll on a relationship.

I've read there are good and bad ways to cope with liars. How do you cope with liars?





I met someone once that lied all the time, of course it took me awhile to catch on that he was lying because most of the lies were about such trivial things. I guess from your post he was a compulsive liar.
Our society has so many therapies for people with mental health issues but you never hear about psychological help for the liars. These people produce chaos and pain in the lives of all the people they are close to or attempt to become close to.

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Sun 08/30/09 02:31 PM

I've also noticed that justification walks hand & hand with a liar...not a good thing.


Yep and when they're caught, they're caught. Like watching a worm in hot ashes trying to get out of it.

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Sun 08/30/09 03:07 PM


I've also noticed that justification walks hand & hand with a liar...not a good thing.


Yep and when they're caught, they're caught. Like watching a worm in hot ashes trying to get out of it.


and yet they keep trying to see if they can sell you what ever new lie they have fired up.. i had 2 step daughters that i swear would sooner lie to you than tell you the truth over and over ..where they got it from i have no idea.grumble you can you ask them are you hearing what you're telling me and expect me to believe it..not going to happen. had to cut them off..

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Sun 08/30/09 04:22 PM
Yea I had a stepson like that

But he was an addict

And you know how they can be!!

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Sun 08/30/09 05:48 PM




Did you all know they are different?

Pathological liar - A pathological liar is usually defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. Pathological lying is often viewed as coping mechanism developed in early childhood and it is often associated with some other type of mental health disorder. A pathological liar is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused - it is done to get one's way). Pathological liars have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. A pathological liar often comes across as being manipulative, cunning and self-centered.

Compulsive liar - A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (see, Pathological Liar), rather they simply lie out of habit - an automatic response which is hard to break and one that takes its toll on a relationship.

I've read there are good and bad ways to cope with liars. How do you cope with liars?



you left out Texans





what what about those texans?


haha I AM a Texan

and yanno every Texan shot the biggest buck or drank the most beer or caught the biggest fish or fought the biggest guy


Hey now that is not lying that is just that ******** talk shshsh why ya think they wear them boots for so they can tuck their jeans in the top of them when the chit starts getting deep. hehehehe

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Sun 08/30/09 05:57 PM
Edited by TxsGal3333 on Sun 08/30/09 06:15 PM
Regardless to me if they find the need to lie in order to make others like them or just for attention. No matter what the reasons are it will sooner or later all catch up to them........then I leave them standing there with a puzzle look on their face and walk away. I have no use for lies regardless what the lie is for. Small , medium or big one............bigsmile they are still all lies tell me the truth no matter what and I can deal with it..........

It all deals with trust.....I will trust anyone till they give me a reason not too and lies to me is the first sign that the trust has been broken...........whoa


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Sun 08/30/09 06:14 PM
I don't put up with it and myself, I see no reason to lie