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If they don't believe in hell, what do they believe? Texas? ![]() |
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Edited by
robert1652
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Wed 08/19/09 09:04 PM
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they believe in waking you up early in the morning and standing on your porch preaching to you when you are in a groggy stupor from a hangover And if they don't manage to convert you they walk down the road shouting "and you will burn in the hell of Satan. Long live the Watch Tower Society" Isn't that what they do? ![]() How did I get into this thread I don't even do religion ![]() ![]() |
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If they don't believe in hell, what do they believe? Texas? ![]() |
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they believe in waking you up early in the morning and standing on your porch preaching to you when you are in a groggy stupor from a hangover And if they don't manage to convert you they walk down the road shouting "and you will burn in the hell of Satan. Long live the Watch Tower Society" Isn't that what they do? ![]() How did I get into this thread I don't even do religion ![]() ![]() |
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Edited by
robert1652
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Wed 08/19/09 09:15 PM
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they believe in waking you up early in the morning and standing on your porch preaching to you when you are in a groggy stupor from a hangover And if they don't manage to convert you they walk down the road shouting "and you will burn in the hell of Satan. Long live the Watch Tower Society" Isn't that what they do? ![]() How did I get into this thread I don't even do religion ![]() ![]() This was in England back in early eighties. I made a point from that day onwards to verbally torment them like asking them things like "do you play with our toys at night before you go to bed?" and keeping a straight face . or how was your three some last week if there are three of them I think they eventually marked my house and used to pass it by and going and offending the neighbour Once I went out and told them they missed my house do they want to come and try to convert me? They walked away looking a bit scared |
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they believe in waking you up early in the morning and standing on your porch preaching to you when you are in a groggy stupor from a hangover And if they don't manage to convert you they walk down the road shouting "and you will burn in the hell of Satan. Long live the Watch Tower Society" Isn't that what they do? ![]() How did I get into this thread I don't even do religion ![]() ![]() This was in England back in early eighties. I made a point from that day onwards to verbally torment them like asking them things like "do you play with our toys at night before you go to bed?" and keeping a straight face . or how was your three some last week if there are three of them ![]() ![]() |
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My impression of you is New Age maybe Wicka or the like. That would be "Wicca". And, her views are not even close to Wiccan from what I have seen her write here or elsewhere. Of course, I could be wrong. ![]() I do have Wiccan tendencies but I am not Wiccan. They believe in the respect of all religions and non religions. They believe in personal power and responsibility. They believe in what you put out, bad or good, you get back. They believe just by living we effect our environment so try to live well and responsibly. They believe in living this life and cherishing everyday. These are things that I believe in also. LOL Utopia? No, I do not have delusions in that sense. We are personally responsible for our very own happiness and life. We are not going to be handed heaven, we have to make what we have heaven. We are blessed with this life. NO matter what is handed us during this life, it is our responsibliity to make the best of it for ourselves. As for original sin etc... that would be biblical or Christian in origin, the Wiccan religion is much much older than that. Believing in the power of the world around them is more up their alley. They have dual gender gods too. Now the ten commandments of the bible are probably the best thing to come from it, excluding a couple of them or at least editing them. |
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Edited by
robert1652
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Wed 08/19/09 09:21 PM
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they believe in waking you up early in the morning and standing on your porch preaching to you when you are in a groggy stupor from a hangover And if they don't manage to convert you they walk down the road shouting "and you will burn in the hell of Satan. Long live the Watch Tower Society" Isn't that what they do? ![]() How did I get into this thread I don't even do religion ![]() ![]() This was in England back in early eighties. I made a point from that day onwards to verbally torment them like asking them things like "do you play with our toys at night before you go to bed?" and keeping a straight face . or how was your three some last week if there are three of them ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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My impression of you is New Age maybe Wicka or the like. That would be "Wicca". And, her views are not even close to Wiccan from what I have seen her write here or elsewhere. Of course, I could be wrong. ![]() I do have Wiccan tendencies but I am not Wiccan. They believe in the respect of all religions and non religions. They believe in personal power and responsibility. They believe in what you put out, bad or good, you get back. They believe just by living we effect our environment so try to live well and responsibly. They believe in living this life and cherishing everyday. These are things that I believe in also. LOL Utopia? No, I do not have delusions in that sense. We are personally responsible for our very own happiness and life. We are not going to be handed heaven, we have to make what we have heaven. We are blessed with this life. NO matter what is handed us during this life, it is our responsibliity to make the best of it for ourselves. As for original sin etc... that would be biblical or Christian in origin, the Wiccan religion is much much older than that. Believing in the power of the world around them is more up their alley. They have dual gender gods too. Now the ten commandments of the bible are probably the best thing to come from it, excluding a couple of them or at least editing them. |
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My impression of you is New Age maybe Wicka or the like. That would be "Wicca". And, her views are not even close to Wiccan from what I have seen her write here or elsewhere. Of course, I could be wrong. ![]() I do have Wiccan tendencies but I am not Wiccan. They believe in the respect of all religions and non religions. They believe in personal power and responsibility. They believe in what you put out, bad or good, you get back. They believe just by living we effect our environment so try to live well and responsibly. They believe in living this life and cherishing everyday. These are things that I believe in also. LOL Utopia? No, I do not have delusions in that sense. We are personally responsible for our very own happiness and life. We are not going to be handed heaven, we have to make what we have heaven. We are blessed with this life. NO matter what is handed us during this life, it is our responsibliity to make the best of it for ourselves. As for original sin etc... that would be biblical or Christian in origin, the Wiccan religion is much much older than that. Believing in the power of the world around them is more up their alley. They have dual gender gods too. Now the ten commandments of the bible are probably the best thing to come from it, excluding a couple of them or at least editing them. If that is what you read, you read it wrong. Personal power, personal responsibility, personal spirituality that transforms once accomplished into a respect and connection with all life. What you stated was trying to connect with an invisible entity of power nad then working through that invisible power to make your life better. Not even close to what I beleive. |
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I am headed to bed, good night all.
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They think soldiers are going to hell
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Edited by
sail2awe
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Thu 08/20/09 07:14 AM
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They got a couple of things right, hell is merely the grave, same word is translated hell, grave, and pit in the OT. Paul only used the word once, & that would be in 1 Cor.15.
They do not believe in one Lord. They do not believe that Christ is God manifest in the flesh fulfilling OT Scripture. They do not believe they are overcomers who are to inherit the heavenly city, even though they quote the number of overcomers as being 144,000. They don't have an answer for having more than 144,000 members either. The do not believe in taking the context of Scripture into account if it goes against their beliefs. They don't believe what Paul wrote, that with the revelation of the mystery (secret) that God's Word was completed. They believe that God does have more to say but only to them, so although they will quote Paul when it suits them, they don't believe what Paul writes anyways. And so they need to by default also dismiss what the other apostles wrote, seeing as how they upheld Paul's status as an apostle sent from God. In other words, they contradict both themselves as well as Scripture. |
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They got a couple of things right,
that is purely subjective one person's right is another person's blasphemy |
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Edited by
sail2awe
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Thu 08/20/09 08:59 AM
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Here are a list of where to find the word and it's Biblical usage 'hell':
Search and see: http://www.angelfire.com/nv/TheOliveBranch/append35.html http://www.angelfire.com/nv/TheOliveBranch/append131.html Satan's one great goal is keep Christ from His rightful position, and he can quote Scripture quite well, hence all the division of man while The Bible instructs unity. I am not judging that any particular religion, merely stating some facts that were brought up on this thread. Although The Lord does state he believes blaspheme to be subjective, He does state that Man has the 'right' to blaspheme, you can read it while addressing the leadership of the Jews: Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. The context was that Christ's healing works were from Satan and not from the Holy Spirit. So we even get a Biblical definition of Blasphemy here. Point is, I don't think I am blaspheming anyone group, merely pointing out what they themselves declare, and yes, they got some things correct. Most every Christian religion finds parts of the truth. |
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oh great
just what we need another one whose duty it is to instruct us on the one true path to god. |
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Edited by
sail2awe
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Thu 08/20/09 09:06 AM
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Quote me where I used the words 'true path to God' or any equivalent, if I am being accused of something then please state the facts? Did I write something about the subject of this thread that is not accurate or something? Please tell me so I can correct it.
What does this Book say ? Many paths to God, or is it the few who find it ? And how does it say this path you mention is to be found? Organized religion or by His Words alone? Or some other way ? Please do check out those links and see how the word is used in Scripture. It's quite instructive, and, after all, we are reading His Interpretation when we look it up and study them. At least that is the claim made about the Words in this Book. |
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They got a couple of things right, hell is merely the grave, same word is translated hell, grave, and pit in the OT. Paul only used the word once, & that would be in 1 Cor.15. They do not believe in one Lord. They do not believe that Christ is God manifest in the flesh fulfilling OT Scripture. They do not believe they are overcomers who are to inherit the heavenly city, even though they quote the number of overcomers as being 144,000. They don't have an answer for having more than 144,000 members either. The do not believe in taking the context of Scripture into account if it goes against their beliefs. They don't believe what Paul wrote, that with the revelation of the mystery (secret) that God's Word was completed. They believe that God does have more to say but only to them, so although they will quote Paul when it suits them, they don't believe what Paul writes anyways. And so they need to by default also dismiss what the other apostles wrote, seeing as how they upheld Paul's status as an apostle sent from God. In other words, they contradict both themselves as well as Scripture. |
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They got a couple of things right, hell is merely the grave, same word is translated hell, grave, and pit in the OT. Paul only used the word once, & that would be in 1 Cor.15. They do not believe in one Lord. They do not believe that Christ is God manifest in the flesh fulfilling OT Scripture. They do not believe they are overcomers who are to inherit the heavenly city, even though they quote the number of overcomers as being 144,000. They don't have an answer for having more than 144,000 members either. The do not believe in taking the context of Scripture into account if it goes against their beliefs. They don't believe what Paul wrote, that with the revelation of the mystery (secret) that God's Word was completed. They believe that God does have more to say but only to them, so although they will quote Paul when it suits them, they don't believe what Paul writes anyways. And so they need to by default also dismiss what the other apostles wrote, seeing as how they upheld Paul's status as an apostle sent from God. In other words, they contradict both themselves as well as Scripture. |
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Edited by
Milesoftheusa
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Thu 08/20/09 02:53 PM
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I'll proclaim you to the father
If you proclaim me to the people My father said, "Church, it's in your heart, son" You don't always need a steeple A preacher's truths aren't alway shown If you follow a heart, make sure it's your own One man's lifted up to Heaven One man's cast into Hell the first man's beliefs are the second man's prison the second man's beliefs are the first man's jail To be or not to be Born to decide what will set you free When it's said and done Sit back and watch the show When it all goes down There ain't nobody knows I got something on my mind That I can't ignore I gotta tell you the truth The devil comes rappin at my back door Sometimes I don't know what to do I see the light and it starts to fade It blinds my eyes as I turn away When it's said and done Sit back and watch the show When it all goes down There ain't nobody knows The offer's on the table The pen's in my hand The devil thinks she's got a deal Temptation road may be paved in gold But the gravel one is better my friend When it's said and done Sit back and watch the show When it all goes down There ain't nobody knows |
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