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how many of you think that every single american should be allowed to walk around with a gun in their pocket? What is the other extreme side of this coin, no guns anywhere at all? Ask Plaxico Burress what happens when you carry a gun in your pocket. I hope his foot feels better. I'm fine with concealed carry laws as long as a thorough psychological evaluation is part of the licensing requirement for each weapon. if guns should be issued only upon a license... why is it written into the constitustion as a "right" ? (forgive my ignorance, i'm not american and that part of your constitution genuinely baffles me) Americans don't go by our Constitution anymore Jasmine. We just SAY we do.The law pretty much does what it wantsAnd it mostly wants $$$$$ Just takes most Americans a bit before there dander get up. Once it does it can be a real problem. some of us are there already. |
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even if you don't anymore... it'd still be nice to know what your forefathers were thinking They were thinking Indians and bandits and British |
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how many of you think that every single american should be allowed to walk around with a gun in their pocket? What is the other extreme side of this coin, no guns anywhere at all? Ask Plaxico Burress what happens when you carry a gun in your pocket. I hope his foot feels better. I'm fine with concealed carry laws as long as a thorough psychological evaluation is part of the licensing requirement for each weapon. if guns should be issued only upon a license... why is it written into the constitustion as a "right" ? (forgive my ignorance, i'm not american and that part of your constitution genuinely baffles me) Americans don't go by our Constitution anymore Jasmine. We just SAY we do.The law pretty much does what it wantsAnd it mostly wants $$$$$ Just takes most Americans a bit before there dander get up. Once it does it can be a real problem. some of us are there already. When it personally affects themI suspect it may have always been this way. |
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even if you don't anymore... it'd still be nice to know what your forefathers were thinking They were thinking Indians and bandits and British why is it still part of your constitution today then? |
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Wed 08/12/09 11:33 PM
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even if you don't anymore... it'd still be nice to know what your forefathers were thinking They were thinking Indians and bandits and British why is it still part of your constitution today then? |
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even if you don't anymore... it'd still be nice to know what your forefathers were thinking They were thinking Indians and bandits and British why is it still part of your constitution today then? Just in case the government might decide to become bigger than the people... Or set themselves up to make god like decisions... instead of as the government of a nation UNDER god. |
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even if you don't anymore... it'd still be nice to know what your forefathers were thinking They were thinking Indians and bandits and British why is it still part of your constitution today then? ok, ok. i understand what you're saying but what about your own feelings? do you think americans SHOULD follow the constitution and allow everybody to carry a gun? |
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JasmineInglewood
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Wed 08/12/09 11:45 PM
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even if you don't anymore... it'd still be nice to know what your forefathers were thinking They were thinking Indians and bandits and British why is it still part of your constitution today then? Just in case the government might decide to become bigger than the people... Or set themselves up to make god like decisions... instead of as the government of a nation UNDER god. what about in the case of where the government simply did something a lot of people didn't like... for example, inaugurate a black president... edit - i said "elect a black president" before... but obviously the government doesn't "elect" anybody |
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MirrorMirror
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Wed 08/12/09 11:53 PM
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even if you don't anymore... it'd still be nice to know what your forefathers were thinking They were thinking Indians and bandits and British why is it still part of your constitution today then? ok, ok. i understand what you're saying but what about your own feelings? do you think americans SHOULD follow the constitution and allow everybody to carry a gun? YES But money is what matters |
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MirrorMirror
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Wed 08/12/09 11:53 PM
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But its not so bad. I used to envy people in the past. But now I think maybe it always was this way.Maybe this really is the best it getsI am sure it could be worse
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how many of you think that every single american should be allowed to walk around with a gun in their pocket? edit - spelling of bear . thanks geckgo |
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<----should never own a gun!!! I'd kill someone!!!
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interesting...
thanks for your insight |
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even if you don't anymore... it'd still be nice to know what your forefathers were thinking They were thinking Indians and bandits and British why is it still part of your constitution today then? Just in case the government might decide to become bigger than the people... Or set themselves up to make god like decisions... instead of as the government of a nation UNDER god. what about in the case of where the government simply did something a lot of people didn't like... for example, inaugurate a black president... edit - i said "elect a black president" before... but obviously the government doesn't "elect" anybody We made it through that just fine... I never had a problem with 'black'. I do have a HUGH problem with spending into debt... |
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MirrorMirror
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Thu 08/13/09 12:09 AM
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I could say a lot more..........
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Honestly, as an American, who can see himself going clinically insaine as the old senile "go team America" fanatic. I am all for the right to bear arms, but please remember, when you use those arms to take away someone life (life liberty and the persuit of happiness if I am not mistaken) you are now taking away someones rights. You are still breaking the constitution, I forget exactly how the wording goes, I am a dumb plumber, not a politician
On the flip side, I do believe some people shouldn't be allowed to carry guns, not even squirt guns. It all falls under my philosophy of stupidity should be painful, very painful. But then again with that philosophy, I would have been dead YEARS ago. And yes... my gravestone probably will say death by stupidity. |
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my response to questions on gun control is as follows:
----- IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world ----------------------------- ****WHO IS GOING TO HOLD THE GOVT ACOUNTABL AND ENFORCE THE DECALRATION OF INDEPENDANCE ENTER THE 2ND AMMENDMENT ---------------------------- U.S. Constitution: Second Amendment Second Amendment - Bearing Arms Amendment Text | Annotations A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. ---------------------------- DEFINITIONS ----------------------------- Main Entry: in•fringe Pronunciation: in-'frinj Function: verb Inflected Forms: in•fringed; in•fring•ing Etymology: Medieval Latin infringere, from Latin, to break, crush, from in- in + frangere to break transitive verb : to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another <the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed —U.S. Constitution amendment II>; especially : to violate a holder's rights under (a copyright, patent, trademark, or trade name) intransitive verb : ENCROACH —in•fring•er noun Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another en•croach (n-krch) intr.v. en•croached, en•croach•ing, en•croach•es 1. To take another's possessions or rights gradually or stealthily: encroach on a neighbor's land. 2. To advance beyond proper or former limits: desert encroaching upon grassland. 3. Football To commit encroachment. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ peo•ple (ppl) n. pl. people 1. Humans considered as a group or in indefinite numbers: People were dancing in the street. I met all sorts of people. 2. A body of persons living in the same country under one national government; a nationality. 3. pl. peo•ples A body of persons sharing a common religion, culture, language, or inherited condition of life. 4. Persons with regard to their residence, class, profession, or group: city people. 5. The mass of ordinary persons; the populace. Used with the: "those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes" Thomas Jefferson. 6. The citizens of a political unit, such as a nation or state; the electorate. Used with the. 7. Persons subordinate to or loyal to a ruler, superior, or employer: The queen showed great compassion for her people. 8. Family, relatives, or ancestors. 9. Informal Animals or other beings distinct from humans: Rabbits and squirrels are the furry little people of the woods http://www.thefreedictionary.com/people ------------------------------------ SO IF THE GOVT INFRINGES (see DEFINITIONS) THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE (SEE DEFINITIONS) TO BEAR ARMS WHO IS GOING TOENFORCE THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE WHEN THE GOVT BEGINS ABUSING THEIR POWERS ------------------------------------ deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed ------------------------------------ AND BEGIN RESTRICTING THE ------------------------------------ We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men ------------------------------------- WHO WILL STEP IN AND REMOVE THE ------------------------------------- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government ---------------------------------- AND INSTITUTE THE NEW GOVT DO YOU THINK THE GOVT IS GOING TO DO IT IT IS UP TO THE PEOPLE AND TO DO SO THE PEOPLE NEED TO BE ARMED AN UNARMED PEOPLE ARE SLAVE TO THOSE IN POWER AND THE GOVT ARE THE MASTERS WHICH IS NOT WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDANCE ------------------------------------- deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, |
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<------hella bad with A super soaker!!!
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WATCH OUT AMERICA......YOUR GONNA GET WET!!!
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that was just an example adventurebegins. i'm not saying that many people have a problem with it today... at least i hope not.
but the idea that every american should carry a gun in order to be able to resort to brute force if their government does something they do not like concerns me... |
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